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very puzzling Twins go from buyer to seller in one week
In that week, they went from 2nd place in the division and 1.5 games out to 3rd place and 7 games out. They're trending in the wrong direction and their competition isn't. They never really should have been buying in the first place.
 

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Is Darvish to the biggest last minute deal in years?

I can't recall a single deal coming in after 4 PM as big as that one.
 

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For LHP Tyler Watson.



2B Willie Calhoun, RHP AJ Alexy & Inf Brendon Davis headed to Texas.
https://www.truebluela.com/2017/7/12/15961704/dodgers-midseason-prospect-rankings-2017-walker-buehler
Calhoun wasn't on the Dodgers mid-season top 20 prospects list.

20 (Tie). AJ Alexy, RHP: The young right-hander has shown polish beyond his years, with a riding fastball and sharp slider/slurve breaking ball. He needs more velocity, but he’s developing ahead of schedule.

7. Willie Calhoun, 2B: His bat is almost ready for the big leagues, as he’s cleaned up some split issues in Triple-A. The defense has reportedly improved some, but it had a long ways to go to be average. Major trade candidate to watch this month.
 

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I don't know how the Dodgers have been this dominant with their starters being so fragile.
Ryu, Maeda, McCarthy and Hill had all been on the DL at least two times each, and rarely go beyond 5, and Wood with his injury history as well.

It helps that the bullpen is great, but Darvish is just what they needed.
 

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I don't know how the Dodgers have been this dominant with their starters being so fragile.
Ryu, Maeda, McCarthy and Hill had all been on the DL at least two times each, and rarely go beyond 5, and Wood with his injury history as well.

It helps that the bullpen is great, but Darvish is just what they needed.
They also lost Urias for the season
 

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It seems like the Astros dropped the ball not topping the Dodgers package for Darvish. There's no good reason the Rangers wouldn't have dealt him within the division since it's an expiring contract and they're out of it. Maybe the Astros would be hesitant to deal prospects within the division, but they could have topped that without including any young core guys, and it seems like something they'll regret when it comes time to make out their playoff rotation.
 

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Rays sell high, such as it is, on Tim Beckham...flipping him to BAL for a class A pitcher. One last occasion to imagine what 2008-2014 look like with Buster Posey behind the plate for the Rays....
 

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I don't know how the Dodgers have been this dominant with their starters being so fragile.
Ryu, Maeda, McCarthy and Hill had all been on the DL at least two times each, and rarely go beyond 5, and Wood with his injury history as well.

It helps that the bullpen is great, but Darvish is just what they needed.
The frequent DL trips are a feature, not a bug. The league is actually a bit unhappy with how the Dodgers have used the DL this year.

Anyway, the Dodgers just separated themselves from the Astros, and the Yankees did the same with the Red Sox. Not that I think the Red Sox should have been more aggressive than they were, but I think the Astros definitely should have been.

There was a great interview on Effectively Wild (I think) recently were the guy on the show talked about how the best teams are actually the ones who should be buying hard at the deadline because upping your championship odds from, say, 25% to 30% or so may not seem like much, but it's a big swing.

The Dodgers significantly improved their odds of winning it all this deadline.
 

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The frequent DL trips are a feature, not a bug. The league is actually a bit unhappy with how the Dodgers have used the DL this year.

Anyway, the Dodgers just separated themselves from the Astros, and the Yankees did the same with the Red Sox. Not that I think the Red Sox should have been more aggressive than they were, but I think the Astros definitely should have been.

There was a great interview on Effectively Wild (I think) recently were the guy on the show talked about how the best teams are actually the ones who should be buying hard at the deadline because upping your championship odds from, say, 25% to 30% or so may not seem like much, but it's a big swing.

The Dodgers significantly improved their odds of winning it all this deadline.
This seems like an odd statement. The Dodgers need to get past the Nationals and the Cubs before the Astros are a factor, and both of those teams had good deadlines as well.
 

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This seems like an odd statement. The Dodgers need to get past the Nationals and the Cubs before the Astros are a factor, and both of those teams had good deadlines as well.
It wasn't a statement about the playoffs. More of a power rankings kind of thing. If I was to do a post-deadline ranking it would probably look something like this:

1. Dodgers
2. Astos
3. Cubs
4. Nationals
5. Yankees
6. Indians
7. Red Sox
8. Rays

There is a gap between 1 and 2 now, where as before the deadline I'd have had them more neck and neck.
 

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It wasn't a statement about the playoffs. More of a power rankings kind of thing. If I was to do a post-deadline ranking it would probably look something like this:

1. Dodgers
2. Astos
3. Cubs
4. Nationals
5. Yankees
6. Indians
7. Red Sox
8. Rays

There is a gap between 1 and 2 now, where as before the deadline I'd have had them more neck and neck.
I actually think the Astros have been passed by both the Cubs and Nationals, primarily due to injuries that have wonked up their starting pitching. Until that straightens out, they aren't as formidable as they were in the first three months of the season. And the Yankees have closed the gap as well.
 

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It seems like the Astros dropped the ball not topping the Dodgers package for Darvish. There's no good reason the Rangers wouldn't have dealt him within the division since it's an expiring contract and they're out of it. Maybe the Astros would be hesitant to deal prospects within the division, but they could have topped that without including any young core guys, and it seems like something they'll regret when it comes time to make out their playoff rotation.
The two front offices supposedly really hate each other, and Calhoun is a top 100 guy, which is a lot for a rental, especially one who has absolutely sucked over the last month.
 

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From a macro perspective. Definitely was a very strong buyer market, and I have to think a lot of that has to do with the CBA. Yankees sold and bought at the right time that for sure.
 

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I actually think the Astros have been passed by both the Cubs and Nationals, primarily due to injuries that have wonked up their starting pitching. Until that straightens out, they aren't as formidable as they were in the first three months of the season. And the Yankees have closed the gap as well.
That's fair, though Correa is expected back before the end of the season so I'm not dinging them too much for that. Could play out different, of course. And yeah, the AL pack in general is tighter. Both the Indians and Yankees are a bit closer to the Astros than they were a few weeks ago.
 

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It wasn't a statement about the playoffs. More of a power rankings kind of thing. If I was to do a post-deadline ranking it would probably look something like this:

1. Dodgers
2. Astos
3. Cubs
4. Nationals
5. Yankees
6. Indians
7. Red Sox
8. Rays

There is a gap between 1 and 2 now, where as before the deadline I'd have had them more neck and neck.
Minor quibble: I don't see how you can rank the Rays in front of the Diamondbacks and Rockies.
 

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Which is why I limited my injury comment to starting pitching ... :rolleyes:
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Minor quibble: I don't see how you can rank the Rays in front of the Diamondbacks and Rockies.
DBacks I agree with. Not quite sure about the Rockies, but I wouldn't fault someone else for slotting them ahead. The Rays are a legitimate thread for the WC. KC too. Had I gone further they'd have all been included. I was mostly just making a point about the top of the list, though.
 

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Bruce had passed through waivers and the Indians will pay what's left on his contract, so the talent going the other way should be minimal. Lonnie Chisenhall is a little behind schedule returning from the DL, and Michael Brantley sprained his ankle in Tuesday's game, so Bruce is definitely useful right now. This should leave Abraham Almonte on the bench most of the time, who hasn't hit much and fueled a Yankee rally in a loss over the weekend when he missed a fly ball. Honestly, this seemed bound to happen… the Indians are rumored to be interested in Bruce every year at the trade deadline.

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The Post says the Yankees were in on him but claims they wanted the Mets to eat some salary, whereas the Tribe accepted the entire salary. The prospect the Tribe send back is a 3B converted to RP that throws pretty hard but is still very very raw. Classic lotto ticket/project.

There are multiple configurations of who Bruce will be subbing for, since there are several OF on the DL at the moment.
 

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The Astros continue to look for someone who can record outs from the front of their bullpen by picking up Tyler Clippard from the White Sox for a PTBNL or cash. Houston's bullpen ERA of 4.26 is over a run higher than those of Cleveland, Boston and New York, and their only trade deadline deal -- acquiring Francisco Liriano and converting him to lefty specialist -- has so far been a disaster (0-2, 6.75).

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The Post says the Yankees were in on him but claims they wanted the Mets to eat some salary, whereas the Tribe accepted the entire salary. The prospect the Tribe send back is a 3B converted to RP that throws pretty hard but is still very very raw. Classic lotto ticket/project.

There are multiple configurations of who Bruce will be subbing for, since there are several OF on the DL at the moment.
Didn't the Mets give up quite a bit to get Bruce last deadline?
 

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Stanton has cleared waivers...
That seems insane. I get that it's a huge contract, but I'm a little stunned that no one claimed him. Is the contract really so bad that taking him on with no loss of players is a net negative? (I'm aware that the Marlins would simply pull him back, but that shouldn't stop teams from throwing in a just in case claim).



Edit: maybe not insane, but surprising. Would have figured that some team would say damn the luxury tax

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