I thought the 4 fights I watched last night were better than any PPV card I've seen in a while.
UFC/MMA in 2017
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Jones is going to slaughter him. He controls the bullshit in his life when he's matched up with Cormier. In a strange way, it's a sign of respect.
post USADA is nuts. I knew these guys were taking a lot of shit but Barao and Lawler look like different people. Lawler has been fighting so long to still be at such a high level. I am very impressed by him even though I've never really been a fan of his.
edit: for those unaware, Lawler started fighting in 2001. A few that guys started before him are still going but not at his level.
edit: for those unaware, Lawler started fighting in 2001. A few that guys started before him are still going but not at his level.
Cyborg looks very different too.
That right hand is there as soon as she wants it.
this girl cyborg is fighting brings nothing to the table (and looks kid of flabby) but cyborg is not exactly impressive either
Evans lost again, 4th in a row. He's probably done. He's the guy who got me interested in MMA, but he doesn't seem to have much left.
Also, a brutal :26 KO knee by unheralded Humberto Bandelay from Peru. He was a replacement who fought on 2 week's notice, was the biggest underdog on the card, and also his dad died a few weeks ago.
Also, a brutal :26 KO knee by unheralded Humberto Bandelay from Peru. He was a replacement who fought on 2 week's notice, was the biggest underdog on the card, and also his dad died a few weeks ago.
Sad to hear about Yoshihiro Takayama, who is now paralyzed from the neck down after an accident during a pro wrestling match. Takayama was not a particularly good MMA fighter, but had a legendary brawl with Don Frye at a PRIDE show in 2002 that was replayed a zillion times on MMA highlight reels. About as an exciting two minutes as you will ever see in a combat sport.
Hey, I have an idea. How about you don't let the other guy pummel you repeatedly in the head? Jesus, that's difficult to watch.
Drug tests for UFC 214 have flagged Jon Jones as positive for Turinabol. Looking at 2-4 year suspension according to reports. I was looking forward to watching him vaporize Lesnar next summer.
Diego Maradona.
Jones is a very accomplished fighter. There are no shortage of experts who would list him as the greatest fighter that they've ever seen, despite the drugs and suspensions. That is in a nutshell Maradona.
Jones is a very accomplished fighter. There are no shortage of experts who would list him as the greatest fighter that they've ever seen, despite the drugs and suspensions. That is in a nutshell Maradona.
They say Turinabol from an in-competition sample taken after weigh ins and before competition. Apparently after testing clean throughout his camp. If true, it sounds weird.
Well, he's not going to be able to cop out with the "I took it for sex, not as part of my PCT!" on this one.
Might as well just go ahead and fully cement that asterisk on Jones' entire career now, which they'll certainly do. Because if he's still taking the risk of popping Tbols, with *this* much of a microscope on him, nobody is going to believe that he hasn't been consistently dirty since day one now.
Might as well just go ahead and fully cement that asterisk on Jones' entire career now, which they'll certainly do. Because if he's still taking the risk of popping Tbols, with *this* much of a microscope on him, nobody is going to believe that he hasn't been consistently dirty since day one now.
It makes a lot sense. That's an old school body building drug that was used to get cut and not lose muscle masss. Sounds exactly what he'd want to do when making his weight cut.
Never even heard of Turinabol. I hope Joe Rogan feels like an even bigger dick for that post fight interview now.
Generally speaking, think of it as a milder form of dbol without the estrogen bloat and which pisses out faster.
It's been a while so I'm not really up to date on the current black methods of cheating a drug test, but outside really young kids just recklessly using whatever they can get their hands on I've also never known anybody to run it without an injectable base either. Not buying into Jones' camp claim of it being a setup or anything, but they obviously make a good point there that simply popping some tbols on the fly does absolutely nothing for him.
I have no idea how this stuff works. Is it possible that whatever masking method/agent he was using stopped being effective once he got deep into his weight cut?
Just because he didn't test positive before doesn't mean that it wasn't in his system. Any drug test has a maximum threshold allowance, which often can still be fairly high and allow the drug to be somewhat effective. One of the primary techniques for athletes who are subject to rigorous testing is to maintain levels that bump right up against that threshold. This means careful dosing and in-camp self testing to ensure allowable levels. It's possible that the last test simply found him during a slight spike and he exceeded the limit by a few parts per million. Hell, perhaps the cutting process even helped cause this unexpected spike due to dehydration or something. This is just a generalization from a non-doctor
I don't know specifics around USADA's test for Tbol. Just putting this possibility out there, since it would help explain why he wasn't popped until so late in the process.
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Hypothetically I guess, but then it would again be curious that nothing else was getting flagged. Tbol gains just really aren't that worth it by themselves (which usually made it the easiest to pass off fakes for btw, since the mild results came very slow and you'd ideally be running it with something else), and it still requires the same very bare minimum post cycle period of 3 weeks where you are still taking more banned stuff to keep what you gained while coming off (which is what he got popped for last time).
I mean maybe I'm giving Jones' team too much credit, but a tbol only cycle there is basically the rough equivalent of the Ocean Eleven team deciding to take the prison risk in knocking over a bank, and then just going for the cashier drawer instead of taking the extra 90 seconds to get away with the vault cash. With the same exact 3 minute high speed get away chase waiting for them on the back end either way.
Below the surface it simply doesn't make sense to me in that respect. But like I said earlier it's been over a decade since I really paid a lot of detailed attention to that kind of stuff, so who knows what new masking advancements have been since then. I never doubt the effort and ability that goes into staying ahead of that curve though.
I mean maybe I'm giving Jones' team too much credit, but a tbol only cycle there is basically the rough equivalent of the Ocean Eleven team deciding to take the prison risk in knocking over a bank, and then just going for the cashier drawer instead of taking the extra 90 seconds to get away with the vault cash. With the same exact 3 minute high speed get away chase waiting for them on the back end either way.
Below the surface it simply doesn't make sense to me in that respect. But like I said earlier it's been over a decade since I really paid a lot of detailed attention to that kind of stuff, so who knows what new masking advancements have been since then. I never doubt the effort and ability that goes into staying ahead of that curve though.
Assuming you're correct that an MMA fighter cannot get any benefit out of Tbol alone, the other stuff he was cycling it with could have simply been under the testing threshold.
Edit: I don't care about Nunes not fighting sick, though. I just mean I'm rooting for Valentina
Edit2: sorry about the double post.
1-1 my card. But UFC judges could easily have 2-0 Nunes based on how they always score for the aggressor