Week 14 NFL Game Thread
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After the two-minute warning of a half, the following shall apply:
a) If a team has not used its three charged team timeouts, the team of the injured player will be charged a team timeout,
unless:
1) the injury is the result of a foul by an opponent;
2) the injury occurs during a down in which there is a change of possession, a successful field goal, or an attempted try
Yea. They said it on the broadcast twice. And it’s been answered here several times. If the medical team goes on the field in that situation you lose the timeout.
This ref crew was a disaster
Per Ush with this stupid league
See ya next week Steelers, can't fucking wait.
Per Ush with this stupid league
See ya next week Steelers, can't fucking wait.
Thank you for this. I can't believe I've never seen that come into play before. I've seen it happen plenty of times when the clock is running and a guy gets hurt, but I can't remember a team burning a timeout on a dead ball like this before, but the rule is the rule. Stupid as it is.
It's either you take the timeout or a 10-second runoff I believe.
That's actually correct, having looked it up. From the NFL Rulebook:
ARTICLE 4. INJURY TIMEOUTS AFTER TWO-MINUTE WARNING OF EITHER HALF
After the two-minute warning of a half, the following shall apply:
- If a team has not used its three charged team timeouts, the team of the injured player will be charged a team timeout, unless:
- the injury is the result of a foul by an opponent
- the injury occurs during a down in which there is a change of possession, a touchdown, a safety, a successful field goal, or an attempted Try
I think the idea behind it is, even if the clock is stopped you are basically preventing the offense from rushing to the line/giving your D a breather.
But it's not an "injury timeout." It's an injury, during a dead ball. Does that rule still apply?
There’s no run off if clock is stopped. The run off is to stop teams from stopping clock by faking injury.
Also, google “4th timeout”.
If only medical professionals could determine whether an injury is real.
Regardless, Pitt has needed last second field goals to beat a bunch of crappy teams. Not scary.
Regardless, Pitt has needed last second field goals to beat a bunch of crappy teams. Not scary.
Stop. They applied the rule correctly.
You don’t like the rule. That’s fine. We get it
But they applied the rule as written.
We have to not look past Miami tomorrow and take care of them first before we think about the Steelers
Look at the bolded words:
ARTICLE 4. INJURY TIMEOUTS AFTER TWO-MINUTE WARNING OF EITHER HALF
My point is that it's not an "injury timeout." The ref didn't blow the whistle due to the injury. The whistle blew and the clock stopped as a result of the play. I know i would have seen this before. Something is not right.
Nobody's saying otherwise. Do we need your permission to discuss whether we like the rule?
Steelers are very tough to beat. Defenses get really gassed. Putting up 506 passing yards on that defense is crazy scary.
Patriots need to hold serve tomorrow. Steelers are tough, but so are the Jags. Patriots need to win three more.
Patriots need to hold serve tomorrow. Steelers are tough, but so are the Jags. Patriots need to win three more.
There was an injured player that needed medical assistance. That’s an injury TO.
Here’s article about it: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thephinsider.com/platform/amp/2014/8/25/6064397/nfl-rules-explanation-of-the-fourth-timeout-charged-to-dallas-cowboys
Here’s article about it: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thephinsider.com/platform/amp/2014/8/25/6064397/nfl-rules-explanation-of-the-fourth-timeout-charged-to-dallas-cowboys
Yeah, I just meant the rule was obviously intended for when the D fakes an injury. Don’t really get why it doesnt distinguish between offense and defense.
If they have to stop the play clock because there's an injured player on the field it's an injury time out.
Maclin costs his team a vital timeout for an "injury" that he got over so fast he was back in on the next play.
Yeah, and if the player can't get off the field on his own, you can't opt to let the play clock expire to take the delay of game penalty.
ARTICLE 2. INJURY TIMEOUTS
If an official determines a player to be injured, or if attendants from the bench come on the field to assist an injured player, an injury timeout will be called by the Referee. If the ATC Spotter identifies a player for medical attention, the rules pertaining to Injury Timeouts in Article 3 and Article 4 (c) apply.
Thank you. I didn’t wanna be the asshole and say this first. He was absolutely hamming it up because he didn’t catch the ball.
Ok, so it's the play clock that determines that it's an "injury timeout," not the game clock. That's the distinction I was trying to find.
Reading that article:
In this case, however, the play was an incomplete pass from quarterback Dustin Vaughan to fullback Tyler Clutts, meaning time was not in, so no ten-second run off could be enforced.
If Baltimore was out of timeouts, they would have been charged a "fourth timeout," because time was not in, so no run-off could have been enforced. Meaning, because Baltimore had a timeout left, they got fucked. If they didn't have a timeout, it wouldn't have hurt them (until the fifth timeout, which comes with a 5 yard penalty, or a 10 second run off, depending on what happens on the play, and what the defense chooses).
Haven’t seen this confirmes. Rapshit mentioned tests indicate possible partial tear, not sure if he could rest and gut it out. Tannehill tried that, didn’t end so well...
Ted Ginn cost New Orleans a timeout in the game Thursday for the same reason, and it would have been huge if they still had it at the time.
But... the clock was already stopped... so the only worth in a fake injury would be to buy the offense some extra time to huddle up beyond the usual play clock time. But then the offensive player would have to leave the game. Seems like a horrible trade-off that nobody would take.
Put in another way, it makes no sense applying the rule to a team on offense in a clock stoppage situation. It's a bad rule because it is not specific enough. It should only apply when the injury actually stops the clock.
The Jags? I'd almost agree, but there's no way Bottles can execute a check to hand the ball off the way the 15 Broncos could.
Edit: Bortles was auto-corrected to Bottles. It's the little things in life that make you laugh.
