NFL Week 16 Game Thread

Gunfighter 09

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This is pretty cool. Always loved Woodson.
"Though this is my last game in the Coliseum, just know that I will never leave you"

Pretty sure 50,000 people would have done anything CWood asked when they gave him the microphone. I've never seen a crowd love one player so much and I have never seen anything like that at a pro sports event. Glad I got to watch that awful football game in the stupid cold just to see that moment.
 

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"Though this is my last game in the Coliseum, just know that I will never leave you"

Pretty sure 50,000 people would have done anything CWood asked when they gave him the microphone. I've never seen a crowd love one player so much and I have never seen anything like that at a pro sports event. Glad I got to watch that awful football game in the stupid cold just to see that moment.
How cold was it there? I had some frost on the roof looking out first thing this morning (47 miles south according to Google Maps). Good luck to the Raiders in their next adventure, wherever it may be.
 

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How cold was it there? I had some frost on the roof looking out first thing this morning (47 miles south according to Google Maps). Good luck to the Raiders in their next adventure, wherever it may be.
It was low forties at worst. But our seats are optimized for staying in the sun, leaving us right in the face of the wind last night. Also, I planned poorly and wound up giving my jacket to my six year old. Combine that with the fact they stopped selling beer at halftime, I was freezing by the end.


On the note of giving Woodson the mike after the game, I think that is a good model that the Pats should follow in a couple of years when Brady decides he is done.
 

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Ken Stabler, A Football Life, tonight at 9:00.

Loved the guy always, even though he broke my heart once. And it's awesome that he acknowledged that the roughing call was BS.

Belongs in HOF, and I don't think it's a close call. But ... Politics.
 

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Stabler's career INT+ is 88 (100 is average). By comparison, Namath, who is the poster boy for too many INTs, had a 97. If we're electing QBs from that era that aren't in, Ken Anderson was better and it's not close. Stabler just turned it over way too much.
 
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Stabler's career INT+ is 88 (100 is average). By comparison, Namath, who is the poster boy for too many INTs, had a 97. If we're electing QBs from that era that aren't in, Ken Anderson was better and it's not close. Stabler just turned it over way too much.
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In his age 29-31 seasons, Anderson's teams won six or fewer games each season. I'm undecided on Stabler, but Anderson's inability to elevate those teams even to respectability, let alone contention, is a big mark against him.
 

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In his age 29-31 seasons, Anderson's teams won six or fewer games each season. I'm undecided on Stabler, but Anderson's inability to elevate those teams even to respectability, let alone contention, is a big mark against him.
It's certainly a bad three-year stretch (and at an odd time age-wise) and it is probably what keeps him out, but should it? His lifetime ANY/A+ (YPA accounting for TD/INT and sack yardage and era-adjusted) is 113. Aikman's was 106. Obviously he's in because of team success but Moon is in with a 107 and he didn't even go to a Super Bowl like Anderson and also played his entire career in a dome. The only HOFer Anderson played with was Munoz and that was for less than half his career. His closest modern equivalent factoring in lack of big team success is probably Rivers who is also at 113, except Rivers has played his entire career in a warm-weather city and doesn't have a Super Bowl appearance. Anderson started 172 games (including many seasons that only had 14 games) with a 113 ANY/A+ - I don't think there are any eligible QBs not in the HOF with that combination and there are plenty with worse. He's criminally underrated and should absolutely be in.
 

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Anybody still alive in a survivor league? We reset in week 8 and I'm still alive. Really wanted to take the Raiders the other night but didn't pull the trigger. So far I've used

Green Bay
Cincy
Carolina
Seahawks
Arizona
Pats
PIttsburgh
KC

Was thinking of either going with the Vikings (vs Giants) or Lions (vs 49ers) this weekend. Any thoughts?
 

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Vikings might be resting a bunch of people Sunday night if GB loses to Arizona in the late game so I'd be leery of them. Lions are coached by Caldwell so normal caveats apply there.
 

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Vikings might be resting a bunch of people Sunday night if GB loses to Arizona in the late game so I'd be leery of them. Lions are coached by Caldwell so normal caveats apply there.
I'm confused. Wouldn't GB losing be incentive for the Vikings to play everyone, not rest them? Especially since the Vikings hasn't clinched a playoff spot anyway?
 

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If Green Bay loses, what the Vikings do against the Giants is irrelevant. The game in Week 17 would be for the division title.

When Atlanta loses tomorrow or when Seattle wins, the Vikings will have clinched a playoff spot before their own game begins on Sunday night.
 

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If Green Bay loses, what the Vikings do against the Giants is irrelevant. The game in Week 17 would be for the division title.

When Atlanta loses tomorrow or when Seattle wins, the Vikings will have clinched a playoff spot before their own game begins on Sunday night.
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Statistically, the right pick is Detroit and it's not close. But I would have the same apprehension as you in your shoes.
 

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There must be a good explanation why they have to call it Thursday night football on Saturday night. I just missed it I guess.
It's like how the Thursday night game to open the season is called "Sunday Night Football". Network specific recognition, branding, etc...
 

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I just want the Washingtons to win to clear the Giants from the playoff picture for good. They really suck though.
 

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Seriously, does anyone else belong above Cousins at this point? Not sure I would put Brees, Flacco, Luck, Eli, Rivers or anyone else above him
 

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There have been so many times when I have though that the Eagles were turning it around, and then they go through stretches like this and I want to vomit.

They will (probably) stay close and may even win tonight, but what a horrible team they are.