He got starched by a guy 20 lbs. heavier and kept coming forward. Tough to take the front runner comment seriously, unless you were watching a different fight.
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I think all we learned last night was Conor isn't Jon Jones. He does well when he's the bigger and more powerful man because of that left hand and his elite boxing. That's his path to victory.
Having said that Jones vs DC is going to be AWESOME
Having said that Jones vs DC is going to be AWESOME
Surprised by how bad Conor's head movement is. For someone with such great balance and footwork, he stands right there to be hit.
Nate was 20 lbs heavier? Did they weigh in before getting in the cage? I didn't think they did that in the UFC.
You know what he means. I'm sure I can put on 20 pounds in a couple weeks but it ain't gonna be comfortable or functional. I give Conor credit for taking the fight and how he carried himself after, but I don't think the size difference was why he lost. He may be why he didn't win in that his clean punches didn't faze Diaz at all, but he lost because he was getting tagged clean and he was crap on the ground.
No, I really didn't because I figured both guys were close to their natural weight. Nate can make 55, Conor was going to fight at 55. Now whether or not Conor should fight at 55 is a different story. I thought the height bothered him a lot more than the weight. I have nothing bad to say about McGregor.
It's funny, back in the old days we used to argue about if they should have height classes, not weight classes.
I hated fighting taller guys more than heavier guys, but being tall can be a huge disadvantage on the inside, too.
The height is why McGregor's lack of head movement surprised me. He's so great with his feet he's able to get around on angles and is always in a position to punch, but once he's in place he just stands there. No slipping. No bobbing. Especially with the uppercuts he was throwing, he really should've come in slipping and low, popped up with the uppercut then angles out of range.
The height is why McGregor's lack of head movement surprised me. He's so great with his feet he's able to get around on angles and is always in a position to punch, but once he's in place he just stands there. No slipping. No bobbing. Especially with the uppercuts he was throwing, he really should've come in slipping and low, popped up with the uppercut then angles out of range.
On the last Katie Nolan's podcast, Garbage Time, Frankie Edgar tells that Diaz was open to fighting at 155, but that McGregor was the one who wanted the fight at 170.
There is also Dana White's version:
There is also Dana White's version:
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2016/3/2/11145374/ufc-196-dana-white-reveals-conor-mcgregor-asked-to-fight-nate-diaz-at-170-pounds-mma-news
He shot a double leg against a guy he knows has a vastly superior ground game and then proceeded to roll on his back and give up the mount without contesting. His heart was gone once he took that knee to the gut. He sure as fuck didn't keep coming forward, he was in survival mode the second Nate rocked him with a left. You make it sound as if Conor was 5th round Lawler after getting wobbled.
Diaz also fights in a 10lb heavier division and weighed 1lb heavier the day before the fight. Unless you think he put on 19lb more than Conor in 24 hours, I don't see how there was a 20lb difference between them.
I'm curious about why it is almost impossible to find comprehensive highlights of these fights. I can understand why they want to control the live broadcast, but then it seems like they totally restrict the distribution of highlights to the major sports media outlets. I don't watch the fights, but am mildly interested in the highlights, but there are no good ones. Seems like they would benefit from distributing them to drum up more interest.
Great question and a fun game.
If GSP is in, a Lawler - GSP fight is the headliner.
Connor vs Frankie or Aldo (one primary, one back up) is the co-main. I wonder if they put both Edgar and Aldo on the card, with the guy not getting Connor fighting someone else to ensure they have a back up in place
Rousey is supposedly out until November because she doesn't finish filming Roadhouse until late June and wants a four month camp. I think that means Holm fighting Zingano or Nunes at UFC 200. The eventual Rousey / Holm rematch is going to sell regardless of what happens to Holm now, they might as well give her a chance to rebuild what she lost on Saturday. Either Cat or Nunes will go in with the Tate gameplan and it will be challenging for Holm unless she can expand her ground game beyond "use power to get back up". I also think Dana has learned his lesson and Meisha isn't fighting anyone until Rousey in November.
Nate Diaz getting a title shot rematch with RDA seems obvious. Nate missed weight and looked awful against RDA in 2014, but an in shape and form Nate Diaz vs a healthy RDA is a fun fight.
I think the last piece is Cain Velasquez, if he is healthy, getting a fight since they are spending Werdum on Miocic.
I only watched it once, but my biggest takeaways are that CM was less effective with bigger more muscled body and he didn't give Diaz enough respect. He looked slower and was using a more plodding forward style. He didn't move in and out enough. He was winding up for power shots instead of his usual quick, precise shots. Then by the time he bloodied Diaz, he looked tired and winded. I don't think he adjusted to the additional oxygen a bigger body uses. The knee to the body could have been a factor too. The when CM started to get hit clean he didn't adjust defensively, he got tagged, and it was over.
Classics Diaz move letting CM wear himself out and see a bunch of crappy half shots before throwing one real, hard shot.
I think what we saw in Holm-Tate is that styles make fights even more so in the women's divisions. Rousey had nothing for Holm stylistically, but Tate did. Ronda can't shoot for a takedown, it's all forward pressure, clinch, judo throw. She just ran straight into Holm's striking. Tate while she may not be better than Ronda is a more complete well rounded fighter. I think Holm-Tate-Rousey may be a game of rock-paper-scissors.
Regarding the future; I bet Rousey is a lot more anxious to get back in the octagon vs Tate than she is vs Holm. I wont be surprised to see her schedule suddenly open it. McGregor vs Edgar.
Classics Diaz move letting CM wear himself out and see a bunch of crappy half shots before throwing one real, hard shot.
I think what we saw in Holm-Tate is that styles make fights even more so in the women's divisions. Rousey had nothing for Holm stylistically, but Tate did. Ronda can't shoot for a takedown, it's all forward pressure, clinch, judo throw. She just ran straight into Holm's striking. Tate while she may not be better than Ronda is a more complete well rounded fighter. I think Holm-Tate-Rousey may be a game of rock-paper-scissors.
Regarding the future; I bet Rousey is a lot more anxious to get back in the octagon vs Tate than she is vs Holm. I wont be surprised to see her schedule suddenly open it. McGregor vs Edgar.
Yeah, UFC is stingy with non-Fox fights. Fightland has gifs of most of the fight in their terrific breakdown. tl;dr They say the fight came down to southpaw v southpaw neutralizing CM's lead straight left. Conor doesn't jab much or use his right a ton and Diaz was able to beat him to the spot, timing CM again and again. Fightland has pretty great breakdowns generally.
I'm not a Diaz fan but Nate has looked tremendous in his last two matchups, kept focus, stuck to his gameplans, I think the time off before the Michael Johnson fight helped, or maybe he just matured. He's a great boxer when he keeps his wits about him.
I like his boxing. Like I've said, he's lazy bringing his punches back, but he obviously has the chin for it, so whatever. He's accurate and heavy handed and rangy. He could definitely be a top ten contender in boxing if that was his main focus.
I did nothing of the sort. The issue is that, unlike someone dropping "frontrunner" comments, I understand that there a chasm of conceivable universes between rolling over and playing dead and fighting like a lunatic with no quarter after being rocked.
That you're inclined to pretend he did one thing doesn't mean that my incredibly vanilla description of what actually happened is the other side of your hyperbole coin.
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I think Connor's added weight was a bigger deal for his own offensive woes than Diaz's was against him, if that makes sense.
I can see a world in which it does but am not quite sure what you mean? I think the weight affected his conditioning which affected his ability to flurry. I also think he had to try to turn his punches over more and commit once he realized he wasn't hurting Diaz which left him more vulnerable and kept him from being up and his toes and mobile like usual.
Given the lefty/lefty matchup, I thought we'd see more body kicks and leg kicks, especially push kicks to Nate's front knee. It's harder to do that and retreat and keep up the footwork with the added weight, which made him a bit more one-dimensional than usual. Rather than using his feet as a wearing-down, long term weapon, he was going for homeruns.
EDIT: He also could have been worried about a leg catch or something else that would have sent the fight to the ground, at least moreso than against an opponent who didn't have the ground advantage that Nate had. But it struck me initially as possibly a weight thing.
EDIT: He also could have been worried about a leg catch or something else that would have sent the fight to the ground, at least moreso than against an opponent who didn't have the ground advantage that Nate had. But it struck me initially as possibly a weight thing.
If true, it sounds to me like he's done at 145 and will vacate his belt. Maybe the cut is just too brutal.
Maybe but I'm sure he has more muscle now than in his 145 days. I really wanted to see two more fights at 145. Frankie and Aldo again.
Just found out a buddy of mine will be fighting on the McGregor/Diaz card. I wasn't going to waste the cash, but I haven't seem him fight in a while, so guess I'll watch Diaz's face wear down McGregor again.
You got it. Hadn't talked to him in a bit, he just sent me a fb message about something you'd get a kick out of. Then mentioned he was fighting in Vegas in July. Wonder if he knows who he's squaring up with.
So, it may not be a big title fight, but it very well could end up being the fight of the night. It's not 100%, but Lauzon thinks he's fighting Diego Sanchez. That's going to be a scrappy, fun fight to watch.
Once SSSF said Joe, it all went out the window. Thanks, jerk!
SSSF and I were friends with Joe growing up.
I'm significantly bigger than Joe.
Which didn't stop me from tapping out to him multiple times in about 30 seconds on the mat in his front yard.
Joe was our high schools student AV tech. And would also kick anyone in our schools ass.
Hard to celebrate something on a day like this -- especially when it never should have been illegal in the first place, but this is good news
Ha! I'll beat Chuck Liddell right now. Unless he's spent the last ten years learning to cover his face when he punches.
Cormier injured, Jones says he's open to fight.
"If you've got a light heavyweight, heavyweight ... Send them my way. Let's keep this main event going." https://t.co/iip1zuyIqd
"If you've got a light heavyweight, heavyweight ... Send them my way. Let's keep this main event going." https://t.co/iip1zuyIqd
I think most entertaining suggestion for a replacement that I have seen on twitter is Marc Hunt. I have to think Rumble has right of first refusal on this one. It is interesting how you are not hearing many people volunteer for the opportunity to get savaged by Bones.
Got it.
Also, can someone explain to me what's going on in MMA training camps that dudes/chicks can't make it to fight night anymore? I totally understand training hard so the day of the fight is "easy" but the big picture has to be making it to fight night so you can get paid.
Rumble or GTFO in my opinion. If it was me, I'd without a doubt call out Liddell.
He hasn't beat someone good in like 5 years. The bigger problem is there are not a lot of legit contenders above 170. Jones has Rumble and maybe DC again before 205 is completely wiped out, and now even the Weidman superfight is dead.
MMA hasn't evolved enough yet, and even when it does there are still going to be injuries in training. It's just too tough on the body.