Chris Sale to Boston for Moncada, Kopech, & 2 Prospects

Van Everyman

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Whoah ... DD doesn't mess around. Two biggest names in the SP market in the last two years came off the board almost immediately to the BoSox.
 

Jed Zeppelin

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Need to see the other prospects. If they get Sale. give up no 25-man roster pieces and keep Devers, that's a huge win in my book.
I'm not sure "two other prospects" has ever been more crucial to determining my feelings about a deal.
 

Clears Cleaver

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I am not looking forward to the day when Dumbrowski is fired as GM after the Sox win 70 games with a $240m payroll.

If you are going to really make this trade, why not do it last deadline while you still had Ortiz?

The only way these successive moves make sense is if Henry has decided he wants to sell soon.
 

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wow.


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Ale Xander

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da fuq?

Great Panda and Holt as our 3B now?

hate this trade. Could have done same thing in July.
 

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I love this deal. Moncada, Kopech, and Swihart are two nice prospects and a potential decent starter but Sale is a top of the rotation, established guy. We now have three of those.

No way this is an overpay.
 

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Why now and not in July? They could have made a serious run with Ortiz still on board and possibly have won home field and maybe things turn out differently, who knows. Did that small sample of ABs change their perception of Moncada? I don't understand why they didn't make this trade in July but decide to do so now.
 

Stitch01

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Swihart, Moncada AND Kopech is too much.
Im not sure I do this deal, but its a pretty fair price. I expected they'd have had to do Bradley or AB instead of Swihart and another prospect.

As for why not to do it in July, Possible 1) this deal wasnt on the table in July and 2) the Sox were a bit higher on Moncada in July.
 

8slim

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Maybe the White Sox weren't interested in the particulars of this deal in July? Or we weren't? Things changed post-July.
 

mwonow

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My head is happy. So how come the sound in my office is "nooooooooooooooo!"
 

UncleStinkfinger

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I'm hungover and this has made me dizzy. How good is Sale? Legit question. Is he a Baumgartner type starter? Like can he pitch a team to a series win?
 

chawson

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Maybe there's a juicy follow-up deal for EdRo. Wright and Buchholz can handle the 5 slot and we don't need four left-handed starters.
 

grimshaw

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I can live with it since it wasn't Devers or Beni as the 2nd piece. Maybe losing Kopech was more palatable because of potential character issues or something.
 

JohnnyTheBone

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Why now and not in July? They could have made a serious run with Ortiz still on board and possibly have won home field and maybe things turn out differently, who knows. Did that small sample of ABs change their perception of Moncada? I don't understand why they didn't make this trade in July but decide to do so now.
You'd presumably still have Anderson Espinoza, minus Drew Pomeranz.
 

TonyPenaNeverJuiced

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Has Moncada been given his entire signing bonus? The only part of this deal that's stinging me is the hindsight of Yoan's bonus, the 100% ta on it, and no other international signings last winter or this one.
 

biff_hardbody

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This is a great deal. Moncada has huge upside but his strikeout rates are worrisome. At this point he doesn't seem as likely to be major league talent in 2017 as ERod or 10D.

Getting this deal done and only dealing 1 of Moncada/10D/Devers/Rodriguez is great. Hopefully Sale stays healthy.