Oh great, so now the Pats can't sign Dave Stieb.According to his agency website, his entire player roster consists of Chris Carpenter and Dave Steib.
Oh great, so now the Pats can't sign Dave Stieb.According to his agency website, his entire player roster consists of Chris Carpenter and Dave Steib.
Rivalry. LOL.
that seems to be mostly true in the NFL, but as you said, McDaniels going to Indy and failing to win basically ends his chances at establishing himself as a head coach in the NFL ever again. It's totally worth it in such an old-boys-network job where there are only a handful of opportunities ever.I've worked in a couple of industries (TV and law) and the accepted custom is that you are expected to mull over an offer by taking it back to the old place, but once you formally accept an offer, that's it. Going back on it is a faux pas.
That said, sometimes a faux pas may be worth it.
It absolutely is, and I would judge him for it. But at this point I simply don't really believe it absent any real evidence. All we've heard is some Colt-sourced quotes, innuendo, and people joking about it as schadenfreude. Screwing over a team, who can just hire another coach, is completely believable. Tricking people to move to Indianapolis because of you and then bailing on them is something that requires actual evidence.I’m glad he’s staying and glad the Colts are getting embarrassed. But unless there’s more to the story, isn’t the bit with the assistants a fair criticism?
Unless their prior employer already found a replacement.I'm having a hard time believing these (mostly) unnamed assistants were buying houses or anything before the HC was even officially announced. So, some may have signed a contract or informed their previous employers. Isn't it likely the Colts would be happy to let them out of their contracts, and their current employers would take them back considering the circumstances?
Regarding the bolded, welcome to BBtL. Speculation, innuendo, conjecture, and agenda-driven wishcasting are worth more than the public statements of team executives.
It absolutely is, and I would judge him for it. But at this point I simply don't really believe it absent any real evidence. All we've heard is some Colt-sourced quotes, innuendo, and people joking about it as schadenfreude. Screwing over a team, who can just hire another coach, is completely believable. Tricking people to move to Indianapolis because of you and then bailing on them is something that requires actual evidence.
No. No and noHas McDaniels released a statement? Should he? Does he need to?
No drama, professional and cool headed. We had a deal, Josh backed out, we are disappointed and are moving on.I wasn't going to watch it live this morning, but did Ballard say anything of practical worth? Did he say anything of schadenfreude-esque worth? I assume if (say) Irsay stumbled out from behind the curtain and started quoting Jules Winnfield, we'd have seen it posted.
More like you have to go back 2 miles to move forward 2 inches. And then back another 2 miles.This is hilarious.
The drama has been ongoing for 11 years with pauses that refresh. If you want to take it back to the shenanigans with the two Bills, obviously longer.Thanks. That's almost disappointing, but good for him being the bigger guy about it.
Jesus Christ do you need to step away from the ledge. Have you slept since Sunday?And while I thought literally nothing could be ruled out in this upcoming draft if "the guy" is in this draft, I no longer think so. This defense is too fucked to allow for it.
And a seeming pathological need to make every presumption in a light least favorable to the Patriots’ front office because of the lack of information coming from them to explain themselves. The same front office that has created a culture that is lauded by many of the same posters for its ability to not release information to the press; a press those posters and then mock for making every negative inference against the Patriots because of said lack of information.Regarding the bolded, welcome to BBtL. Speculation, innuendo, conjecture, and agenda-driven wishcasting are worth more than the public statements of team executives.
Yes, it’s actually helpful to work through this among friends while maintaining sports news blackouts otherwise. Soon enough, the game recedes to Tyree/Manningham territory — especially if they can successfully address their problems.Jesus Christ do you need to step away from the ledge. Have you slept since Sunday?
This game doesn’t come with any of the baggage for me that those games did. It hurt to lose but the whole season was a grind from the minute Edelman went down. Which, you know, could be a consequence of two titles in three years, on the heels of the single greatest comeback in the history of the sport and the pressures of having the three best people to ever man their roles. Keeping that up year after year is really, really hard – especially in a game with the violent attrition of football.Yes, it’s actually helpful to work through this among friends while maintaining sports news blackouts otherwise. Soon enough, the game recedes to Tyree/Manningham territory — especially if they can successfully address their problems.
So despite specific, on the record statements by all relevant parties, it's their fault that we prefer media-fueled and poster theories over their expert testimony, because the latter is incomplete or incomprehensible to us. That seems reasonable.And a seeming pathological need to make every presumption in a light least favorable to the Patriots’ front office because of the lack of information coming from them to explain themselves. The same front office that has created a culture that is lauded by many of the same posters for its ability to not release information to the press; a press those posters and then mock for making every negative inference against the Patriots because of said lack of information.
That's, like, exactly what I'm saying, man.So despite specific, on the record statements by all relevant parties, it's their fault that we prefer media-fueled and poster theories over their expert testimony, because the latter is incomplete or incomprehensible to us. That seems reasonable.
These cats make mistakes without question, but we are spending a lot of time inventing our own reality around here lately.
Totally agree. I am completely over it. Those games hurt so much because we didn't know if we were going to get a shot at a 4th. Now we have 5. Everything else is just gravy. On to 2018.This game doesn’t come with any of the baggage for me that those games did. It hurt to lose but the whole season was a grind from the minute Edelman went down. Which, you know, could be a consequence of two titles in three years, on the heels of the single greatest comeback in the history of the sport and the pressures of having the three best people to ever man their roles. Keeping that up year after year is really, really hard – especially in a game with the violent attrition of football.
NBC analyst and former Colts coach Tony Dungy couldn’t contain his rage on Wednesday morning. Dungy is a rival and a Colt at heart, but also among the most mild-mannered people you might ever meet. He’s not an emotional guy or a hot-take artist.
Gold, Jerry. Gold!Oh well the Patriots ship is sinking, I guess he wants to go down with them. I'm confident Ballard has a plan.
http://forums.colts.com/topic/56178-mcdaniels-rejects-colts/?do=findComment&comment=1661225
Who are you so wise in science?So, this team in Indianapolis was mortally offended and wounded that the Patriots' offense willfully let air out of their footballs and gain an unfair advantage in the AFC championship game. Everyone cried in unison that Belichick had to know it was going on and, by association even if his name didn't surface, McDaniels had to know. Cheaters. No integrity. But three years later, let's hire a guy who was in the middle of all of it.
I don't think that has a snowball's chance in 16 hells with the closeness to the Nazi SS uniform skull and the Pats having Jewish owners.
It is, but let's be honest. After DFG, if Belichick or Brady were available to any team in the league, is there a team that wouldn't have taken either of them? MAYYYYYBE Green Bay would stick with Rodgers, but otherwise....Every team would have taken Belichick, and virtually every one would have taken Brady.Who are you so wise in science?
This is a fucking fantastic observation.
Not that any of this is serious to begin with, but those 2 skulls look nothing alike. At all.I don't think that has a snowball's chance in 16 hells with the closeness to the Nazi SS uniform skull and the Pats having Jewish owners.
I know it's not anything serious but I think you're wrong. If anybody tried to associate any kind of skull logo with the Pats, it would be skuttled faster than you can say Jack Robinson. That skull logo was that infamous.Not that any of this is serious to begin with, but those 2 skulls look nothing alike. At all.
How does that make me wrong? Those 2 skulls look nothing alike. That's not really opinion so much as readily apparent observation.I know it's not anything serious but I think you're wrong. If anybody tried to associate any kind of skull logo with the Pats, it would be skuttled faster than you can say Jack Robinson. That skull logo was that infamous.
Well, I'm not changing my opinion, so the famous agree to disagree?How does that make me wrong? Those 2 skulls look nothing alike. That's not really opinion so much as readily apparent observation.
So you honestly think the "Pats skull" poster by InstantKarma (stylized 2-D grey profile with mandible included looking right) looks like the SS skull (realistic 3-D looking forward/left with no mandible and crossbones)? Because they really, really look nothing alike, except for the whole "hey, it looks like a skull" thing.Well, I'm not changing my opinion, so the famous agree to disagree?
Or a graphic artist.We really need a phrenologist to settle this.
We really need a phrenologist to settle this.
Maybe a Canadian who worked as a medical illustratorOr a graphic artist.
As someone who used to practice and teach graphic design for a living, it's a really painful stretch to connect an SS skull logo with the Patriots mockup. Let's move on.Or a graphic artist.
Hey, no need to be a thread Nazi, man.As someone who used to practice and teach graphic design for a living, it's a really painful stretch to connect an SS skull logo with the Patriots mockup. Let's move on.
I certainly hope so. It’s much more fun this way.Hey fellow Pats fans, have you ever thought, you know, that maybe we are the baddies?
You’re not looking hard enough for a reason to be outraged.Not that any of this is serious to begin with, but those 2 skulls look nothing alike. At all.
I am so not prepared to concede the human skeleton to the Nazis.I know it's not anything serious but I think you're wrong. If anybody tried to associate any kind of skull logo with the Pats, it would be skuttled faster than you can say Jack Robinson. That skull logo was that infamous.
Edit, I didn't know this until just now:
Hiatt’s parents, Myra’s grandparents, were both killed during the Holocaust, along with three other members of his family.