Possibly, yes. I looked there and I also looked at dWAR here, which says Duda is not good and Moreland is good. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Ya I think DD had to go big or go home on Price given how badly they needed the ace, along with the market. and perhaps knowledge that Boston wasn't his first preference.
It’s Amazing that just 3 years ago the Red Sox botched their big opportunity to be sellers because everyone knew how hard it was to find power hitters in the post steroid testing age. My how the narrative swings.
Yet there is also evidence, and coming straight out of the horse's mouth no less, that he was:
I don't think anyone aside from late-era Lou Gorman has botched a series of moves as bad as Ben Cherington did that summer. Holy moly, what a disaster.
Ya - that was the off season when right handed pull hitters were supposedly at a premium.
I was thinking more like a trade with a rebuilding team whose timing for a deal doesn't matter - like Abreu. Not that he's on the table, but something along those lines.
When Curt Flood took a stand and challenged the reserve clause, I doubt he ever envisioned a day when a player would be "insulted" by a nine-figure offer.
This is idiotic. He's insulted that the top offer was only 100 million so he'll sign for something less than that? Is 80 million less insulting somehow?
I'm guessing that in his mind, the Red Sox have a lot more money to spend. So a $100 mil from them could be seen as an insult whereas from Arizona it is more like them doing all they reasonably can. There are some holes in that logic of course, but it's not 100% baseless.
I am one who is curious about the Mitchell Lichtman, Rob Arthur, and Ben Lindbergh research that has pointed out that the league-wide HR/BIP rate spiked after the 2015 ASG.
So according to your theory, he's supposed to be so insulted by a low-ball Red Sox offer that he takes a *lower* offer from a team he's already been successful for? It's not like I know any better, but I'm not sure I find that plausible.
Maybe he's more hung up on the comparative to other players per/year amount, and in the possibility the Red Sox haven't made the even the slightest effort to budge off that initial figure?
He can be upset with Boras for setting unrealistic expectations. He can be upset with himself for hiring Boras. He can be upset with every other team in the league for not giving him a good offer, or even any offer. Literally the only entity that he has no reason to be upset with is the team that has a $100 million offer on the table.
Insulted? Why? Does he have a better offer?
Percentage of today's major-leaguers with $100 million-plus contracts who know about Curt Flood ... 10? ...20%
No ... only with the obsessiveness of Red Sox fans who believe they can read the minds and assign motivations for people they have no interaction with
Every part of this is correct except for the words you used and the order you put them in.
The Red Sox could only happen with something like this.
Yeah, I guess I'm misremembering a quote or conflating a couple of quotes from an old movie or tv show.
He was a .385 wOBA bat his entire career in Detroit, and a .446 wOBA bat in Arizona. and can't play defense. He's Nelson Cruz II.
Only in 21st century America can an individual be offered $100,000,000.00 for his services and be insulted.
It's pretty hard to feel bad for a guy who plays baseball for a living and is going to sign a deal worth a hundred million dollars.
Agreed that given what we know, these kind of alleged reactions from him towards Boston make no sense, but what if Dombrowski offered him a higher deal (5/125, let's say) and when he didn't jump at it, lowered it (to 5/100, let's say) and refuses to raise it back to the original offer? This is understandable from Dombrowski's side, but also could explain why JDM might be acting like this even though BOS is almost certainly the high bidder.
Speier's article doesn't say the current offer is $100 million. It says it's closer to $100m than $125m. That doesn't conflict with Bruce Levine's tweet from last week reporting that the offer is and has been $110 for five years. It feels like the past few pages of this thread have adopted the $100m number.
That's been my thinking, as the price keeps dropping. Say DD did tell Boras, we'll give you this price by the end of the weekend and Boras scoffs at them and assures JDM that he will get him more. DD could pull that offer completely, while JD is left with a 2/50 deal from Arizona as his only viable option. At this point, there doesn't seem to be a Mike Ilitch waiting out there and JD is risking losing tens of millions. If I were him, I'd seriously consider dropping Boras.
I find it quite implausible that Dombrowski would lower the offer, especially by 20%, simply because Martinez refused the first or because no one else was bidding anything close. This isn't a Nomar situation where after a year and more wear and tear, the team lowers its offer to a player. We're talking two months since the initial offer would have been made (early December at the Winter Meetings if reports are accurate). No way does the team's valuation of the player change that much.
The price for JDM has not "dropped." The only thing that's changed is the number being leaked by Boras.
Teams do this all the time though. When the Yankees signed Damon, didn't Cashman give him a take-it-or-leave-it offer? In other words, Cashman said, "Here is what we're prepared to offer right now. If you leave, the offer won't be on the table anymore." And Damon took it.
There's a huge difference between an offer with a deadline ("we need your answer within 24 hours or it's off the table") and the concept of a "if you don't sign this week we're gonna lower the offer by X%". The former is S.O.P. The latter is S.O.B.
