Does this mean you are a young person?Nope. Handles is pretty frequently being used in the same context that handle used to be used.
Serious question--I have no way of knowing which would be which in the lingo.
Does this mean you are a young person?Nope. Handles is pretty frequently being used in the same context that handle used to be used.
Which is great and all and I see the point there. The title of the film is ‘top 100 handles’. As DD alluded to, it’s plural in this instance.Nope. Handles is pretty frequently being used in the same context that handle used to be used.
I'm old. The old way is to call it a handle, the new way is to call it handlesDoes this mean you are a young person?
Serious question--I have no way of knowing which would be which in the lingo.
You're right. I thought we were talking about general usage. In this specific example, it has to be top 100 handles, regardless of whether you think Kyrie has a good handle, or good handles.Which is great and all and I see the point there. The title of the film is ‘top 100 handles’. As DD alluded to, it’s plural in this instance.
Word.I'm old. The old way is to call it a handle, the new way is to call it handles
You're right. I thought we were talking about general usage. In this specific example, it has to be top 100 handles, regardless of whether you think Kyrie has a good handle, or good handles.
Would the plural of Alou then be Moises?The plural of handle is moosies?
Messiah by handleKyrie Irving = Handle's Messiah?
Or would it be Handles' Messiah?
Handel's Messiah?
We need to know this.
No, on second thought, the correct answer is clear enough:
Handles Messiah!
Close.The plural of handle is moosies?
I guess I'm old enough to remember the old way but young enough to be aware of the new way. I'm in the hoops lingo sweet spot.Word.
Follow up: If you are old, how do you know the new thing?
Serious question.
I vaguely remember a time 20-25 years ago when “hoops” and “handles” (as non-plural mass nouns) sounded like weird neologisms to me, as I had grown up with “hoop” and “handle.”I guess I'm old enough to remember the old way but young enough to be aware of the new way. I'm in the hoops lingo sweet spot.
"Hoop" and "handle" also both double as verbs, and verbification is a long revered tradition in the history of slang.I vaguely remember a time 20-25 years ago when “hoops” and “handles” (as non-plural mass nouns) sounded like weird neologisms to me, as I had grown up with “hoop” and “handle.”
Getting worked up about it in 2018 sounds kinda like “get off my lawn” — and I say this as a cranky gen x-er prone to saying “get off my lawn.”
Hoop and hoops were interchangeable where I grew up. “Handles” night get you ostracized from the court along with that sweaty old guy who fouls others way to hard and calls every foul committed on himself. Doesn’t make sense.I vaguely remember a time 20-25 years ago when “hoops” and “handles” (as non-plural mass nouns) sounded like weird neologisms to me, as I had grown up with “hoop” and “handle.”
Getting worked up about it in 2018 sounds kinda like “get off my lawn” — and I say this as a cranky gen x-er prone to saying “get off my lawn.”
IN MY DAY IT WAS "HOOP"!!! BECAUSE YOU PLAYED TO 1. FIRST BASKET WINS!! NO FOULS!! IN THE SNOW!!Hmm. Almost 44 year old here and it was always hoops. As in, " hey, let's go play some hoops".
But did you run hoops?Hmm. Almost 44 year old here and it was always hoops. As in, " hey, let's go play some hoops".
If you watch basketball with any regularity, it would be impossible not to pick up the new lingo.Word.
Follow up: If you are old, how do you know the new thing?
Serious question.
That makes sense.If you watch basketball with any regularity, it would be impossible not to pick up the new lingo.
Up hill? Both ways?IN MY DAY IT WAS "HOOP"!!! BECAUSE YOU PLAYED TO 1. FIRST BASKET WINS!! NO FOULS!! IN THE SNOW!!
We called it not "a handle," but just "handle." He's got game, he's got handle, he's got charisma. This video is akin to a compilation of Pedro's 100 greatest charismas.I'm old. The old way is to call it a handle, the new way is to call it handles
You're right. I thought we were talking about general usage. In this specific example, it has to be top 100 handles, regardless of whether you think Kyrie has a good handle, or good handles.
I'd go with "great," lol.Curry has a good handle. How tough is that?
I think you’ve got a good handles of the topic.I'd go with "great," lol.
I could go either way on handle vs. handles, but we're gonna be strict about it, a big part what makes Kyrie, Curry, CP3 et al. so elite is their ability to dribble and drive with both their left and right hands — so "handles." (Ditto "hoops," of which there are also two).
Also, unlike "handle", "handles" doesn't have a secondary meaning of nickname, so when you say "Chris Paul has good handles" there's no risk of anyone thinking you mean "CP3."
Not tough at all. You sound like a square thoughCurry has a good handle. How tough is that?
You haven't watched clips of the 60's and 70's have you? Cousy and Havlicek most definitely had a (singular) "handle."It’s not like people were one-armed back when it was just “handle”.
The transition from "handle" to "handles" is far more recent than that though. Heck, I wasn't even born. Are you really saying you think it's because of ambidexterity?You haven't watched clips of the 60's and 70's have you? Cousy and Havlicek most definitely had a (singular) "handle."
Actually, wouldn't he have called it "basket"?Jimmy Naismith and me called it “hoop.”
I was joking about you saying guys weren't one-armed back then. Neither player hardly ever had their left hand touch the ball except when passing or raising to shoot.The transition from "handle" to "handles" is far more recent than that though. Heck, I wasn't even born. Are you really saying you think it's because of ambidexterity?
Oh yeah. "Peach basket," IIRC.Actually, wouldn't he have called it "basket"?
You're in good handles with all-stars.I think you’ve got a good handles of the topic.
Truly. It was awkward watching Havlicek cross over from right to right. His left hand was strictly supporting cast.I was joking about you saying guys weren't one-armed back then. Neither player hardly ever had their left hand touch the ball except when passing or raising to shoot.
This deserved more love (handles)Personally I love handles.
The Celtics All-Star traveled to North Dakota to visit the Standing Rock Sioux Tribe, and take part in a naming ceremony celebrating his Lakota heritage.
I have decided to believe that his Sioux name is a shot at certain comments he made when traded to another tribe of ethnic specific appellation.
Nope, because with him this year they are a threat to win the whole thing.If you knew Kyrie was definitely leaving at year-end would you deal him now?
https://celticswire.usatoday.com/2018/09/13/new-york-knicks-targeting-kyrie-irving-nba-free-agency-2019/?utm_source=celticswire&utm_medium=recirc&utm_campaign=rail-most-popular
Yes. This "we can't squander an asset" talk is maddening enough when Rozier is the topic, nevermind Kyrie. A year of Kyrie IS an asset. Assets can be used to trade for other players or picks. They can also be used to compete for championships.Nope, because with him this year they are a threat to win the whole thing.
Without him next year you can sign Rozier and with the improvements the kids make and draft picks /trades, you will be a threat to win the while thing.
1. It's nice that the Knicks want things.If you knew Kyrie was definitely leaving at year-end would you deal him now?
https://celticswire.usatoday.com/2018/09/13/new-york-knicks-targeting-kyrie-irving-nba-free-agency-2019/?utm_source=celticswire&utm_medium=recirc&utm_campaign=rail-most-popular
Irving was cleared for basketball activities in late July and expects to be ready for the start of camp. He’ll be under no minutes restrictions once the regular season begins, according to a source. (What remains unclear is how coach Brad Stevens can manage the minutes at point guard between Irving, Marcus Smart and Terry Rozier without someone getting out of sorts.)