Well, Bender is 7-1 and can protect the rim. He had several games with double digit blocked shots. Just tell him to get down low. No more three pointers. He can pass and handle pretty well for a guy his size but he's a complete bust as a perimeter player.I Don’t consider the Dragan Man a big, really. Looney was the other guy I was thinking of.
Robert SwiftHot damn a Dragan Bender reference. I'm not sure that's getting topped haha.
Wait what? I feel like I don’t even need to look that up to be sure it’s not true.Well, Bender is 7-1 and can protect the rim. He had several games with double digit blocked shots.
too soon.Wait what? I feel like I don’t even need to look that up to be sure it’s not true.
I certainly would take him over Chriss or Tacko, but he plays small for his size. Those Philly games would be really interesting.
Yeah, I misspoke. But he did have a few double doubles. He has basketball skills, but he's obviously not going to defend Embiid unless he puts on 30 pounds of muscle. That's what Vincent Poirier is for.Wait what? I feel like I don’t even need to look that up to be sure it’s not true.
I certainly would take him over Chriss or Tacko, but he plays small for his size. Those Philly games would be really interesting.
He can only get 6.5 million from GSI can't see Boogie, he can get more from GS (or other places) and we don't look like a landing spot for a ring chaser
yeah I thought he got the full mid-level.He can only get 6.5 million from GS
Well, I think that's because nothing is final until July 6, and we don't know if the Nets are going to want to do a S&T---they did, then they didn't, then last night someone tweeted that they were talking again. So, until that is hashed out, we don't know where we will be.https://twitter.com/Murf56/status/1145682889906036737?s=20
Mark Murphy says the Celtics aren’t sure which MLE they have. This is completely nuts to me.
Won't knowing until they know what BRK and PHI are doinghttps://twitter.com/Murf56/status/1145682889906036737?s=20
Mark Murphy says the Celtics aren’t sure which MLE they have. This is completely nuts to me.
They better hurry up and figure it out because their targets for either MLE slot will presumably be rapidly signing elsewhere.Well, I think that's because nothing is final until July 6, and we don't know if the Nets are going to want to do a S&T---they did, then they didn't, then last night someone tweeted that they were talking again. So, until that is hashed out, we don't know where we will be.
I presume the ball is in the Celtics' court. My guess is Brooklyn has named a price for doing a sign-and-trade, which will let Boston remain an over-the-cap team and keep the full MLE (e.g., something like 2 second round picks). If the Celtics find a FA they want for the full MLE, they will pay that price. If they find there's no difference in quality between the MLE and room-exception guys, they'll just take the room-exception.They better hurry up and figure it out because their targets for either MLE slot will presumably be rapidly signing elsewhere.
You think Brooklyn would help a rival for 2 2nd rounders? I’d love that, but seems low given the circumstances.I presume the ball is in the Celtics' court. My guess is Brooklyn has named a price for doing a sign-and-trade, which will let Boston remain an over-the-cap team and keep the full MLE (e.g., something like 2 second round picks). If the Celtics find a FA they want for the full MLE, they will pay that price. If they find there's no difference in quality between the MLE and room-exception guys, they'll just take the room-exception.
Yeah I would think if this happens it will be a first-rounder - either MIL's or BOS's pick next year, or possibly something like what the Warriors gave Memphis (a lightly-protected first-round pick further out in time, which at least slightly increases the chances the pick could increase in value over the next couple years).You think Brooklyn would help a rival for 2 2nd rounders? I’d love that, but seems low given the circumstances.
It sounds like Horford back to the Celtics is not a possibility because the Celtics don't want to pay him as much as Philly does (or for as long).I think the Butler sign and trade has to resolve before Nets will be motivated to help, however: unti it is, Horford back to Celtics remains a possibility.
It sounds like Horford back to the Celtics is not a possibility because the Celtics don't want to pay him as much as Philly does (or for as long).
I do. You don't get that far down the road without fixing it. Too much gets messy if they don't for both Philadelphia and Miami. But someone (probably Miami) is going to have to pay a team to help them clean up this mess.
The real advantage to the Celtics might be the chance to grab 2 warm bodies (via MLE and biennial) instead of just one (via room).It's one thing for Brooklyn to help the Celtics keep Al Horford instead of having to sign Khem Birch as starting center. That's a big favor, and I'd require a lot of compensation. It's another to help the Celtics sign Nerlens Noel instead of Khem Birch. That's a whole lot of nothing. The benefit to Boston is likely to be pretty marginal from the extra $4M in cap space, and it's free assets for Brooklyn.
Yes, I'd do it in their spot.
Could be, but even if that was true a week ago (which we know it was at some level, but not how close they were) things are a lot different now. And sure, it is tremendously unliely to happen, all I'm noting is that if I were the Nets I'd want to understand where that deal was before I gave the Celtics the chance to operate as an over-the-cap team.It sounds like Horford back to the Celtics is not a possibility because the Celtics don't want to pay him as much as Philly does (or for as long).
Sure. I think the price may not be that high regardless. Brooklyn is competing with Boston, Philly, Milwaukee, Toronto, maybe the Pacers, so it's not as if it's zero sum between Boston and Brooklyn. You don't want to help a rival, but the benefit to Boston is pretty incremental, and it's free assets for Brooklyn. This is like the old "don't trade a guy into your own conference" stuff, which likewise doesn't make sense.The real advantage to the Celtics might be the chance to grab 2 warm bodies (via MLE and biennial) instead of just one (via room).
Do the Nets care if Horford ends up on the Celtics or the Sixers? They're both division rivals and right there with BKN if they sign Al.Could be, but even if that was true a week ago (which we know it was at some level, but not how close they were) things are a lot different now. And sure, it is tremendously unliely to happen, all I'm noting is that if I were the Nets I'd want to understand where that deal was before I gave the Celtics the chance to operate as an over-the-cap team.
C's have cut ties with Dozier and Hunter, I believe, at least for the moment.Don’t get hung up on positions, is this accurate as far as players?
PG Kemba Smart Edwards Waters
SG Brown Langford Dozier Strus
SF Tatum Hayward (6m) Hunter
PF Theis(?)Semi Yabu GrantWill
C Kanter, VP, T
Looks about right (with no Dozier and Hunter), although in terms of who actually plays minutes, it will be a lot of Smart/Brown/Hayward/Tatum at the 2-4.Don’t get hung up on positions, is this accurate as far as players?
PG Kemba Smart Edwards Waters
SG Brown Langford Dozier Strus
SF Tatum Hayward (6m) Hunter
PF Theis(?)Semi Yabu GrantWill
C Kanter, VP, T
Undersized big, probably not quick enough to play the quicker wing spots. His longshot upside is probably small-ball center.Is GWilliams considered more of a big wing or an undersized big? Perhaps a semantic debate, but I understand Stevens does make a distinction between guards and wings in his system.
Obviously not a direct comparison, but I see him as a Draymond-type. Not tall (just 6'7"...I mean he's damned tall, just not for an NBA big), but strong as hell and should be able to handle bigger players with his strength. Can shoot pretty well too.Undersized big, probably not quick enough to play the quicker wing spots. His longshot upside is probably small-ball center.
Yeah, everyone gets compared to Draymond, but it it happens at all for GWill, it will be because of what he and Dray both have between the ears.Obviously not a direct comparison, but I see him as a Draymond-type. Not tall (just 6'7"...I mean he's damned tall, just not for an NBA big), but strong as hell and should be able to handle bigger players with his strength. Can shoot pretty well too.
This has salary filler written all over it, massive overpay for Theis otherwise.Theis is staying too.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1146121245303422976
Restricted free agent F/C Daniel Theis has agreed to a two-year, $10M deal to stay with the Boston Celtics, CAA agents Michael Tellem and Aaron Mintz tell ESPN.
If he goes, it will be as part of a package with some of these other guys. Until then, he’ll just be stapled to the bench.So quite a bit of depth in bigs now: Kanter, Poirier, Time Lord, Theis, GWilliams, Yabusele.
It’s not Horford and Baynes, but there is some depth and some unproven talent.
I wonder if Yabusele is about to be shuffled off somewhere.
I am of the opinion that if you look at next season as a developmental one for the Js to assume more of a team leadership role, Time Lord to get more reps, Pooreyah to see what he can do in the NBA, what is left of Hayward's skill and what they have in the rookies, this roster makes more sense. Match-ups and winning games will be emphasized but it won't be the same as last season.I know its early but this roster still seems kind of awkward. It's going to be hard to have the 5 best players out there either to start or close. Can they play a super-small 5 of Kemba, smart, Brown, Tatum, and Hayward? If not, someone is going to be wasted on the bench at closing time.
I would be quite surprised if Poirier is behind TimeLord, honestly I think he might be the starter.1st string:
Kemba, Brown, Tatum, Kanter, Smart/Hayward
2nd string:
Smart/Hayward, Langford, Semi, Yabu/Gwill, TL/Theis
3rd string:
Wanamaker, Edwards, Yabu/Gwill, Poirier, TL/Theis
This second string needs some help.1st string:
Kemba, Brown, Tatum, Kanter, Smart/Hayward
2nd string:
Smart/Hayward, Langford, Semi, Yabu/Gwill, TL/Theis
3rd string:
Wanamaker, Edwards, Yabu/Gwill, Poirier, TL/Theis
I’m comfortable putting Yabu to 3rd string. The guy just sucks. Second unit could use more scoring, especially if Hayward starts. Figure that one of Tatum/Brown/Hayward will be on the court in most non-blowout situations.1st string:
Kemba, Brown, Tatum, Kanter, Smart/Hayward
2nd string:
Smart/Hayward, Langford, Semi, Yabu/Gwill, TL/Theis
3rd string:
Wanamaker, Edwards, Yabu/Gwill, Poirier, TL/Theis