2019 TB12: Everyday Is Like Sunday

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Don't kid yourself---Belichick has been keeping secret notes on what Brady can't do for years. There is no one on earth---including Brady himself---more aware of Brady's weaknesses and tendencies than Belichick.
 

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Is there any chance the Chargers would be the destination if he decides to pack up? The new stadium opens next season, Rivers is currently in the last year of the contract (and could be eyeing an Oceans's Eleven reboot), they have a relatively solid roster, it's the showbiz hub, etc. Chargers would want someone to fill seats in year one.
 

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It's hard for me to imagine Brady moving on to another team, if only because there's not another setting that can give him what the Patriots provide. I could imagine him retiring; I doubt he will telegraph his last year whenever he decides to hang it up.

Reading the tea leaves is tough. Brady is rumored to have bought a new house in Connecticut: https://nesn.com/2019/10/nfl-rumors-tom-brady-gisele-purchase-home-in-another-new-england-state/. Must mean he's staying with the Patriots until he's 50!
 

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It's hard for me to imagine Brady moving on to another team, if only because there's not another setting that can give him what the Patriots provide. I could imagine him retiring; I doubt he will telegraph his last year whenever he decides to hang it up.

Reading the tea leaves is tough. Brady is rumored to have bought a new house in Connecticut: https://nesn.com/2019/10/nfl-rumors-tom-brady-gisele-purchase-home-in-another-new-england-state/. Must mean he's staying with the Patriots until he's 50!
It's a tip off. The Patriots are moving to Hartford!
 

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It's hard for me to imagine Brady moving on to another team, if only because there's not another setting that can give him what the Patriots provide. I could imagine him retiring; I doubt he will telegraph his last year whenever he decides to hang it up.

Reading the tea leaves is tough. Brady is rumored to have bought a new house in Connecticut: https://nesn.com/2019/10/nfl-rumors-tom-brady-gisele-purchase-home-in-another-new-england-state/. Must mean he's staying with the Patriots until he's 50!
That article leaves out what part of CT the house is in.
Is the house in NE CT, maybe an hour or so to Foxboro?
Or is it in Greenwich, convenient to NYC for Gisele.
 

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The weird thing about Schefter talking like that is that his main Pats relationship/source is often said to be Jonathan Kraft. Doesn’t feel like his regular NE reporting.
 

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I’ve always thought about the idea of Brady on another team. It would certainly be fascinating to watch and I honestly find myself kind of excited for what happens after he moves on. That’s not to say I’m lacking in appreciation for all of the joy he’s brought me for most of my life but I can’t help but think about what comes next as we reach the back nine of this run. The thought of starting over with a young, developing quarterback is kind of exciting to me.

Of course, that doesn’t mean I’m eager to see 12 move on or that I think he’s actually going to play anywhere other than New England.
 

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Schefter was on Get Up this morning and said he wasn’t reporting anything on Brady on Monday. Just based on what brady has done with his house, Guerrero’s house, his contract. He did say that out of the 3 outcomes (retire, leave, stay) after the year that to him the least likely to happen is him staying.
 

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Volin is garbage and I'm not reading his shit. But, the headline is enough for me...if Brady gets a seventh ring, there's literally nothing left to prove. He'd be 43 next season and may want to ride off into the sunset at that point. He's earned that. If he wants to come back, they'll have him back. How can it be anything but a year-to-year decision at this point?

Obsessively watching Brady's career, I cannot fathom he'd every want to play anywhere else. The idea he does seems, to me, to ignore a pattern of 20 years of behavior from him.
 

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Volin's thesis (yes, I read it, so my apologies) is that if Brady goes anywhere after this season, it's to his post-NFL career. I cannot disagree, no matter who wrote it. If Brady wins #7, I would definitely put his odds of retirement at better than 50/50. In his public remarks over the past multiple months, he has gone from "I want to play until I'm 45" to at least leaving the door ajar by acknowledging reality.

If he does decide to play one more season, he will have some leverage on the terms of his return, which is what he wanted, and what the Kraft's have always implied he would get.
 

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Volin's thesis (yes, I read it, so my apologies) is that if Brady goes anywhere after this season, it's to his post-NFL career. I cannot disagree, no matter who wrote it. If Brady wins #7, I would definitely put his odds of retirement at better than 50/50. In his public remarks over the past multiple months, he has gone from "I want to play until I'm 45" to at least leaving the door ajar by acknowledging reality.

If he does decide to play one more season, he will have some leverage on the terms of his return, which is what he wanted, and what the Kraft's have always implied he would get.
Also, retiring at 43 is not inconsistent with "wanting to play til he's 45."
 

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Are any of these Vegas odds backed by some actual information on why Brady might not want to stay in New England? It seems like two years ago, he was unhappy for most of the season over the Guerrero thing. Then, last year, everything was good based on Belichick seeming to set things right (and my theory is that Kraft's Godfather offer to McDaniels was key to that). So what's the problem this year?
 

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My problem with Schefter’s commentary on this is that he presents himself as a reporter, not an analyst or commentator, so when he rolls out a take like this people validly assume he’s basing it on information WE DO NOT HAVE ACCESS TO.

Then he walks it back (I guess?) by saying he isn’t ‘reporting’ anything.

Well, what the fuck is he doing opening his mouth at all? My guess is he is staking out ground in the event Tom does leave so we remember that Schefter called it, and he gets to wade into the lucrative, more fun pool of sports talking head without committing to it wholesale.

If Steve Young said that shit, the reaction would be more muted because Young is paid to commentate, not report. The take itself is not the problem, it’s the delivery.
 

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My problem with Schefter’s commentary on this is that he presents himself as a reporter, not an analyst or commentator, so when he rolls out a take like this people validly assume he’s basing it on information WE DO NOT HAVE ACCESS TO.

Then he walks it back (I guess?) by saying he isn’t ‘reporting’ anything.

Well, what the fuck is he doing opening his mouth at all? My guess is he is staking out ground in the event Tom does leave so we remember that Schefter called it, and he gets to wade into the lucrative, more fun pool of sports talking head without committing to it wholesale.

If Steve Young said that shit, the reaction would be more muted because Young is paid to commentate, not report. The take itself is not the problem, it’s the delivery.
I actually kind of like it being out there in the open to be talked about rather than just waking up to an unhappy text next year. Having it be out there means it is percolating with Kraft, Belichick, and Brady and makes it less likely that anything will be impulsive.
 

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Schefter, like everyone else in that business, has, out of necessity, become a content creator. I don't think he makes things up out of whole cloth, but the days of him being strictly an inside information/reporter have been over a while. I have a hard time imagining Brady playing for any other team, and have felt since this past off-season that his next move is likely retirement. I'd obviously love for him to go on forever, but shit, I've kind of viewed this run as bonus time since beating Seattle in the super bowl.
 

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Who here WOULDN'T sign up for a scenario in which Brady wins ring #7 and then rides off into the sunset? Fuck to @cornwalls@6 point leading up to the SEATTLE game I said to my dad I'd trade winning the title for Brady retiring after the game. Then they went to 3 more Super Bowls and won 2.
 

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If the team does the improbable this year and avenges what happened in 2007, I see absolutely no reason that Brady would keep going other than wanting to do it again if the same defense comes back. After all, the only thing more impressive than doing something no team has ever done is doing it again the very next year.
 

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Where would he go? Where is a situation that's run extremely well that just happens to need a quarterback, that can contend for the title right now? There isn't one.
Bears?

But everything else there isn't what he's used to.
 

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He's not going anywhere guys. His success at this point is built on the trust and communication he has with Josh, Edelman, White, etc. He can't go somewhere else and create that over night. It's Pats or retirement.
 

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Where would he go? Where is a situation that's run extremely well that just happens to need a quarterback, that can contend for the title right now? There isn't one.
I and others above mentioned the Bears or Carolina as at least possibilities, and it's also possible some other team would be willing to make a major trade or eat cap stuff to make room for him. But as others have said, why in God's name would Brady want to work his ass off to fit into a new system for, what, a year? Maybe two max?

Retirement, on the other hand, is of course a strong possibility but that's been true for the last couple years too.
 

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He's not going anywhere guys. His success at this point is built on the trust and communication he has with Josh, Edelman, White, etc. He can't go somewhere else and create that over night. It's Pats or retirement.
The counter to this is that Brady doesn't think like you and I do. Whatever the actual odds are of Brady going to Chicago or wherever and winning a Super Bowl, they are much higher in Brady's mind.
 

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Schefter, like everyone else in that business, has, out of necessity, become a content creator. I don't think he makes things up out of whole cloth, but the days of him being strictly an inside information/reporter have been over a while.
100%. Just watch the segment. As soon as he gets a huge reaction to saying "staying in NE is least likely," he backpedals a bit, and then makes clear that all he's saying is that since Brady and Guerrero are both selling their homes, there is some writing is on the wall.
 

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I'm of the mind that Brady's retiring at the end of the year. I mean after 19-0, what's left for him?
 

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Win more.

Still sorta of feels like there is more than a little smoke here even if it’s hard to discern where it’s coming from.
 

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Could he be as great as he is if he weren't severely dysfunctional in at least some respects?

He's not a supremely gifted athlete. He probably is top 1 percent in eye hand coordination, but, like, so are way more people than will ever play professional sports. He actually was a sixth round pick for a reason.

He achieves by sheer force of will, competitiveness, and preparation.

He's obviously a fucking lunatic. Once you eliminate money as a motive, predicting what or why a lunatic does anything is very hard for non-lunatics.
 

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Win more.

Still sorta of feels like there is more than a little smoke here even if it’s hard to discern where it’s coming from.
Yeah, who really knows but starting to get the same feeling as with Gronk. I think the end of the season may play a role here. If #7 happens, I think he hangs them up. If they lose a heartbreaker in AFCCG or SB, I see the drive in him giving it one more shot. In any event, I don’t see Brady as the starting QB in 2021.
 

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If the team does the improbable this year and avenges what happened in 2007, I see absolutely no reason that Brady would keep going other than wanting to do it again if the same defense comes back. After all, the only thing more impressive than doing something no team has ever done is doing it again the very next year.
The reason he might come back again is because he's said OVER AND OVER that he absolutely LOVES playing football and it's his passion. And he's said that even after having kids, and even after establishing TB12. If you're one of the world's best at it and you still love it, that's plenty of reason to keep going.

Now at this point in his life, obviously there are reasons for him to NOT keep going too. But there ARE reasons for him TO keep going. Plenty of them.
 

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I think he’s retiring and they’re keeping it quiet so that it doesn’t distract from the team, just like with Gronk. He put his house up for sale for a reason—that being that this is his last year in NE. Can’t see him leaving the Pats to play somewhere else for a season.
 

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Life is short. Be with his kids. What’s one more championship going to matter when he’s eating mashed potatoes in the old folks home?
 

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Could he be as great as he is if he weren't severely dysfunctional in at least some respects?

He's not a supremely gifted athlete. He probably is top 1 percent in eye hand coordination, but, like, so are way more people than will ever play professional sports. He actually was a sixth round pick for a reason.

He achieves by sheer force of will, competitiveness, and preparation.

He's obviously a fucking lunatic. Once you eliminate money as a motive, predicting what or why a lunatic does anything is very hard for non-lunatics.
Hey!! Who you callin' a non-lunat....oh wait.

I think your assessment applies almost equally to BB.
 

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BTW, Curran said on his podcast today that Guerrero has bought a house in Plymouth.
 

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Could he be as great as he is if he weren't severely dysfunctional in at least some respects?

He's not a supremely gifted athlete. He probably is top 1 percent in eye hand coordination, but, like, so are way more people than will ever play professional sports. He actually was a sixth round pick for a reason.

He achieves by sheer force of will, competitiveness, and preparation.

He's obviously a fucking lunatic. Once you eliminate money as a motive, predicting what or why a lunatic does anything is very hard for non-lunatics.
I'm NOT totally disagreeing with you, but wasn't he drafted by the Expos (as a catcher I think)? That implies he had some athletic ability beyond the eye hand coordination doesn't it?

ETA: NOT
 

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I'm NOT totally disagreeing with you, but wasn't he drafted by the Expos (as a catcher I think)? That implies he had some athletic ability beyond the eye hand coordination doesn't it?

ETA: NOT
Well, isn't hand-eye coordination the single most important athletic trait for a baseball player (non-pitching division)? What QBs are less athletic than Sandy Leon?
 

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Well, isn't hand-eye coordination the single most important athletic trait for a baseball player (non-pitching division)? What QBs are less athletic than Sandy Leon?
That still doesn't say it was his only skill... though you are obviously correct. I'm just saying that being drafted in two sports implies he has SOME skills beyond the one we are giving him credit for.
 

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This is dumb. Brady has young kids. As much as Gisele hates him continuing to play, no way is she signing off on everyone moving to Chicago or San Diego for a year. He’s not going anywhere else to play and I’ll lay straight cash on that, homies.
 

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This is dumb. Brady has young kids. As much as Gisele hates him continuing to play, no way is she signing off on everyone moving to Chicago or San Diego for a year. He’s not going anywhere else to play and I’ll lay straight cash on that, homies.
What if she bought a team?