For two months of Workman and a year and two months for Hembree? Seems about right to me.So their #7 prospect and a 27 year old with a career 77 ERA+? Seems light, unless the Philly system is deeper than I give it credit for... On the plus side, Pivetta should fit in just great with the current staff...
Not to mention people didn't want Hembree making the team LAST year. I'm happy with any return.For two months of Workman and a year and two months for Hembree? Seems about right to me.
Maybe in a week someone would have given them a decent offer, especially for Workman.For two months of Workman and a year and two months for Hembree? Seems about right to me.
it's two relievers, the better one with way less control. the return was never going to be outstanding. you just hope Chaim is right on one of these two.So their #7 prospect and a 27 year old with a career 77 ERA+? Seems light, unless the Philly system is deeper than I give it credit for... On the plus side, Pivetta should fit in just great with the current staff...
It's not really light for what this season is. A decent-ish prospect and a 27 year old with a pretty good arm for 2 bullpen guys.So their #7 prospect and a 27 year old with a career 77 ERA+? Seems light, unless the Philly system is deeper than I give it credit for... On the plus side, Pivetta should fit in just great with the current staff...
Though he did do well in a short amount of innings.For two months of Workman and a year and two months for Hembree? Seems about right to me.
So Sox traded 2 relievers, saved $300K and get actual players in return?
Well, they didn't really save $300K, since they're on the hook for whatever the new players make, but it's not awfulSo Sox traded 2 relievers, saved $300K and get actual players in return?
Stop with the facts.Well, they didn't really save $300K, since they're on the hook for whatever the new players make, but it's not awful
The last part is the question.So Sox traded 2 relievers, saved $300K and get actual players in return?
Sure, but Pivetta is younger and cheaper and a team in the midst of a rebuild would rather have a 27 year old that *might* be something than two relievers in their 30s that are FA in 2 months. And his FIP in 2018 was 3.79 which isn't bad.The last part is the question.
Pivetta...simply isn't that good. Some somewhat interesting peripherals, but pretty godawful results his whole MLB career. His BEST season featured a 4.77 era in the NL and an 86 era+.
Seabold is interesting. 24 in AA last year, but solid performance there: 40.0 ip, 2.25 era, 1.13 whip, 8.1 k/9. Definitely has potential as a MLB-level bullpen arm, or maybe even a starter (he was a starter in the minors mainly).
Farrell flubbing the late innings in the WS such that Workman batted in like the 8th inning in a close game was an all-timer.Brandon Workman had a long and storied career with us. Always liked him. Glad he was here for two.
Hembree was a pitcher.
That will be my twitter background forever.Farrell flubbing the late innings in the WS such that Workman batted in like the 8th inning in a close game was an all-timer.
Hasn’t been the smoothest sailing with injuries but a decent enough career here through it all.
Also:View: https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1296993120723308545
Quite a bit of praise rolling in for Boston’s return in the deal that sent Brandon Workman and Heath Hembree to Philadelphia. There are a lot of Connor Seabold fans among scouts. Plus fastball, average slider, strike thrower. Mid- to back-rotation guy, but a good get in a deal.
We’re sending the PTBNL.Hopefully the cash in the deal stepped up the quality of the PTBNL.
When they figure that out, maybe he can share the info with Eovaldi.Pivetta has good stuff. High spin, good velocity fastball, good curve and change. The question is why the results have been so much worse than the underlying pitches, and whether the Sox can find him a way to use his repertoire that works a bit better. Lots of risk there, obviously, but we have an opportunity this season to try some things.
I wonder if it's a PTBNL if the season isn't completed, and just a little more cash if they complete the World Series.We’re sending the PTBNL.
Crap! Such a strange trade climate this year. Given the pain point the Phillies had reached, I have no reason to doubt Bloom did as well as possible.We’re sending the PTBNL.
Yep. I’m fine with the deal. I just think it’s a fairly low probability that either of the guys they acquired ends up being even close to as good as either guy they gave up.Sure, but Pivetta is younger and cheaper and a team in the midst of a rebuild would rather have a 27 year old that *might* be something than two relievers in their 30s that are FA in 2 months. And his FIP in 2018 was 3.79 which isn't bad.
I'm not saying he's anything special. I'm basically saying that dealing guys like we did, if we ONLY come out ahead in the cash outlay is fine. Might as well see if the Sox coaches can figure something out.
Yep. Even is Seabold ends up just as another Brian Johnson type, that’s not the worst return for two relievers who had zero future on this team.Seabold (or Seafood as my phone would have it) has the track record of a competent starting pitcher in the high minors who has a chance to start in the big leagues. We need some of those.
If neither one is close to Hembree that will be pretty sobering.Yep. I’m fine with the deal. I just think it’s a fairly low probability that either of the guys they acquired ends up being even close to as good as either guy they gave up.
View: https://twitter.com/redsox/status/1296980843127283716?s=21Can you guys link the PBTNL report? I've only seen cash considerations in multiple places and still haven't seen a PBNTL listed as part of the trade.
Red Sox official twitter, first tweet now in the opening postCan you guys link the PBTNL report? I've only seen cash considerations in multiple places and still haven't seen a PBNTL listed as part of the trade.
Yikes. Sorry guys.Red Sox official twitter, first tweet now in the opening post
And in a normal year they wouldn’t like it but wouldn’t it be close to fair? Two guys that will work the 7th, maybe the 8th? I’m amazed they got a rated prospect(from a system). I was ready for a 18 who threw 95 and a 27 pitcher turned catcherYou guys who don't like the return in this deal better prepare yourselves to see how little we get back for Moreland, Bradley, Pillar, and JD. No one wants to give up anything in a season that could end at any time.