College Football Week Eight Game Thread

Ale Xander

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Notable games (all times ET):

Thursday, October 22
Arkansas State @ Appalachian State, 7:30 ESPN

Friday, October 23
B1G Opener, Illinois @ #14 Wisconsn, 8:00, BTN

Saturday, October 24
Syracuse @ #1 Clemson, 12:00, ACCN
Nebraska @ #5 tOSU, 12:00, FOX
#23 NC State @ #14 UNC, 12:00, ESPN

Kansas @ #20 Kansas State, 12:00, FS1
Oklahoma @ TCU, 12:00, ABC

#2 Alabama @ Tennessee, 3:30, CBS

#3 Notre Dame @ Pitt, 3:30, ABC
#17 Iowa State @ #6 Oklahoma State, 3:30, FOX
#8 Penn State @ Indiana, 3:30, FS1
Baylor @ Texas, 3:30, ESPN
Georgia Tech @ Boston College, 4:00 ACCN
West Virginia @ Texas Tech, 5:30, ESPN2

South Carolina @ LSU, 7:00, ESPN
Utah State @ Boise State, 7:00, FS1
Ale Xander Game of the Day, #18 Michigan @ #21 Minnesota, 7:30, ABC
UVA @ #11 The U of Miami, 8:00, ACCN

#9 Cincy @ #16 SMU, 9:00, ESPN2
Texas State @ #12 BYU, 10:15, ESPN
 

johnmd20

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Feels like the first real weekend of the season, even without the Pac 12 joining in just yet. Gameday has a big slate to kick around.
Yeah, over 40 games tomorrow. I think 42. There hasn't been over 28 games so far this year. There were 18 games played on Week 3. 8 games on Week 1.

I'll enjoy it while it lasts. Although somehow college seems to be pulling it off. Maybe the players are distancing?
 

Ale Xander

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Waddle out for the year. That's what you get by taking the kickoff out of the endzone to the 15.
 

canderson

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Indiana is a 2 point conversion away from sending this game to OT.

Edit: got it. Indiana - Penn State going to OT. PennState had HORRIFIC clock management - this game should have been over.
 

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Wait IU just did a basically inside kick/failed squib what the actual fuck are they thinking. Penn State has the ball at the IU 49 with 20 seconds left.

Edit: just missed a 57 yard game winning FG. This game is a case study in terrible clock management. Andy Reid would be envious.
 

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Indiana is a 2 point conversion away from sending this game to OT.

Edit: got it. Indiana - Penn State going to OT. PennState had HORRIFIC clock management - this game should have been over.
Pretty nifty run for the 2pt conversion there. He was surrounded.
 

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Tough loss here is you're an under bettor. Merely needed 32 points in the 4th quarter to lose. Got that and plenty more.
 

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agree with that. Think he was short but I don’t know he was short and the live call was that it was good
 

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Penn State could have won the game if their RB doesn't score late in the game. That's on them. Ball don't lie.
 

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The ball hit out of bounds before it touched the pylon, and the pylon isn’t in bounds anyway. There’s no need to defer to a call on the field. That was ridiculous. Great game, though.
It's not about the pylon... it's about the nose and breaking the plane before hitting the ground and the video was inconclusive... call stands.

If the camera truck stand is on the goal line instead of at the 2 or 3 we get the angle to overturn... or not.

Oh great... Smurf Turf!
 

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It's not about the pylon... it's about the nose and breaking the plane before hitting the ground and the video was inconclusive... call stands.

If the camera truck stand is on the goal line instead of at the 2 or 3 we get the angle to overturn... or not.

Oh great... Smurf Turf!
If the ball doesn’t get inside the pylon, which it didn’t, how does it break the plane if it’s touching the white out of bounds before it touches the pylon? You’ve described a scenario that didn’t exist on this play.
 

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If the ball doesn’t get inside the pylon, which it didn’t, how does it break the plane if it’s touching the white out of bounds before it touches the pylon? You’ve described a scenario that didn’t exist on this play.
I disagree, it's not where the ball lands. The video didn't prove what your think exists. What angle is the ball at? It's not perpendicular to the line... where is the nose of the ball? Can't tell conclusively by the replays and the call on the field stands and replay works!
 

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I disagree, it's not where the ball lands. The video didn't prove what your think exists. What angle is the ball at? It's not perpendicular to the line... where is the nose of the ball? Can't tell conclusively by the replays and the call on the field stands and replay works!
My impression is that you’re arguing that replay “works” because the officials made a ruling on the field, announced that the play “stands” (a subjective term of art), and nobody is throwing spears at each other for women and food stores. Conversely, they could have ruled the play was overturned and replay still would be considered to “work.” That argument doesn’t really get at whether he was over the line.

I’d say the long axis of the ball is at about a 10-15 degree angle from the sideline, and I think that’s a generous estimate. I don’t see how that really matters. The view from the sideline a few feet from the incident was more than adequate to show that the ball is touching out of bounds before it touches the pylon. Also, the view from high above the back of the end zone shows that the ball never made it inside the pylon. Both of those together make it impossible for the ball to have broken the plane.

It seems you’re arguing that replay “works” because the officials made a ruling on the field, announced that the play “stands” (a subjective term of art), and nobody is throwing spears at each other for women and food stores. Conversely, they could have ruled the play was overturned and replay still would be considered to “work.” That argument doesn’t really get at whether he was over the line.

Referees have to make calls on the field and then decisions on replay. I think they got this one wrong. Oh well. As someone pointed out earlier, when players don’t execute (28’s lack of situational awareness even though his and Franklin’s responses suggested he was told to get down), when you turn the ball over in your own territory, when you take a lot of stupid or untimely penalties, and when you miss a couple of pretty easy FGs, the answer can usually be found in a mirror.