Needed a spot on the 40, no? Schwarber won't be ready for a couple of weeks, so Franchy will probably still be playing.
Red Sox acquire Kyle Schwarber
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I can’t believe I just read a hot and cold comparison to Jackie Bradley. Get a grip, guys.
Schwarber is on the IL, and regrettably Workman has reached late Rich Garces status where the magic is not coming back.
Guessing Schwarber in LF, Verdugo in RF. Renfroe in RF, Verdugo in LF.
He was striking out 24%ish as a 20 year old in A ball and 2019 as an 18 year old in low A. That seems fine to me. He does have a far way to go and is far from a sure bet, but he has upside.
I do wonder about his elbow. The deal seems a lot different Ramirez is headed towards TJS.
Or heading back to the minors. A couple of bright moments can't overshadow that he's been overmatched thus far
Franchy plays the Schwarber role for the next few weeks until Kyle is healthy right?
Watch Franchy catch fire and make this even more awkward.
Renfroe has figured righties out and we probably should pencil him in as our full-time RF through 2023. Kiké needs no platoon either.
Sets up a Duran or Verdugo trade but it seems like there’s no way they’d trade Verdugo.
Rorschach test kind of move. And I keep seeing different things the more angles I turn my head ... certainly curious. Potentially promising. Sorta square peg ... let's hope he regains health.
And maybe Cora will start playing chess like this going forward, be he hasn't moved Verdugo from left very much for a while.
My bigger point really, is that I don't see Renfroe as a platoon player.
The offense can use some punch. I like it. I'll leave the defensive details to Cora. And I have a feeling some more moves may be coming.
With Schwarber on the IL, I think it was more about freeing up a spot on the 40, not the active roster.
Percentile rankings and hit chart
https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-player/kyle-schwarber-656941?stats=statcast-r-hitting-mlb
https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-player/kyle-schwarber-656941?stats=statcast-r-hitting-mlb
Good way to put it. Weird , sort of non fit positionally, but patience and pop are valuable attributes. Find a way to get him in there.
Franchy can be optioned. Workman can't. And even if Schwarber were able to play right away, he's gone after the season. Franchy would have a chance to be the bridge to Casas (late 2022?) if he can hit and play first.
I’d think Schwarber would DH (particularly with his type of injury), JDM plays left, Verdugo CF, Renfroe RF, Hernandez 2B with Marwan and Arroyo on the bench and Duran to Worcester, or on the Bench if they go with 4 players (which they very well might).
Yeah it almost seems like they are just going to give him August and September to get healthy and figure things out on the fly in time for the playoffs. Is that worth our ~10ish best prospect?¯\_(ツ)_/¯
He is also on the IL with elbow tendinitis. So perhaps the Sox saw something.
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With JD in left and Verdugo in center, the pitchers need to pile up Ks or get the other team to hit it to right.
That's true. And it might be a case that while he doesn't have to be rostered this winter, if he's about to have surgery, then it becomes a rule 5 issue for *next winter.* So maybe the writing's on the wall.
My point exactly. He’ll be a Red Sox in uniform for about a month or two. He’ll DH probably and JD will be in LF a lot more.
Not being nosey, but why the hatred for the Cubs? I rooted for them of course in 2016 and in 2003 against the Marlins. A Cubs/Sox series would have been crazy. They were "Cursed" like us. Of course that term is gone for both teams. Just curious.
Hmm, good call. If he needs a lengthy recovery, Aldo might not have made our 40-man crunch next season anyway. So free Schwarber, maybe.
On the previous page there was a post somewhat casually mentioning that he can work on 1B during his rehab assignment and another saying playing at first could actually protect his health. I’m not arguing that those things aren’t possible—and they probably will stick him at first during a rehab assignment—but my uncertainty has me thinking more about all the things that could go wrong rather than how easy it’ll be to get him up to speed at first or any possible upsides to having him play the position.
I definitely appreciate the optimism, I’m just concerned that this path will be a little more fraught than the one I anticipated they’d take on the road to strengthening the lineup.
We’ll see!
Both Schwarber’s career (12.7) and 2021 BB% (10.2) are immediately the highest on the team. The team as a whole runs a 7.7 BB%.
We added a guy with the same wRC+ as X for a potential fourth starter in A ball.
shoot, Dalbec’s a shortstop now. Of course this guy can handle first.
We added a guy with the same wRC+ as X for a potential fourth starter in A ball.
shoot, Dalbec’s a shortstop now. Of course this guy can handle first.
I understand the game-thread nature of this discussion but these reactions are way over the top. If you think Chaim Bloom doesn’t have a plan, you just haven’t been paying attention.
So we’re over the threshold. Sox payroll site has us at $213.88M after the trade. Now let’s go more over.
As somome living in Natstown my reaction is less than whelmed. Good guy, might just catch fire at the right time. But I'm not sleeping any better after this.
Maybe they're worried JD will manage to get on one of his incredibly cold streaks at the worst possible time....
Maybe they're worried JD will manage to get on one of his incredibly cold streaks at the worst possible time....
As currently constructed this makes the most sense. Duran maybe goes down for a couple of weeks when Schawber is activated and comes back in Sept. Kike can spell Verdugo during that period with Arroyo seeing some time at 2B.
Verdugo in center, Renfroe in right and Duran as defensive replacement, sometime platoon with Renfroe, and pinch runner.
There is conflicting info on that. From the globe.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2021/07/29/sports/seemingly-rest-baseball-deals-red-sox-players-eagerly-await-reinforcements/