Analysis of Celtics Games, '21-'22 Season

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I have to think (or maybe want to think) someone (Clarkson??) said something to PP.
a classic "You cant guard me" or similar before taking the inbound.....and promptly getting clamped.

Just the way PP was fired up. He looked like someone told him unkind things about his mom.
 

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Yes, but he's on track to play in 14 more games than last year (+22.2%), he's playing 5.7 more mpg (+31.5%) and shooting 1 more 3p fg per 36 min played (+24.4%). So if you're playing significantly more games in the season and significantly more minutes per game, shooting significantly more times per minute on the court and hitting significantly more often every time you shoot it... well, let's just say it adds up to good things! Put another way, he's on pace to finish with 109 3's this year - he had 48 last year.
Agree. My larger point was in response to someone who was super-exasperated with GWill last year and pointing out that he wasn't a terrible player - in fact, he might be more same than different but in a better situation.
 

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I predict at most one Celtic on first team all defense (Smart) but most likely is zero. Gobert or Green deserve DPOY more than any individual Celtic in my opinion.
 

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I predict at most one Celtic on first team all defense (Smart) but most likely is zero. Gobert or Green deserve DPOY more than any individual Celtic in my opinion.
I think you are likely right. I can't recall if the two announcements show "also receiving votes," but if they do, my prediction would look like this:
  • Smart -- 1st Team All-Defense. 4th place DPOY.
  • TL -- 2nd Team All-Defense. 8th place DPOY.
  • Tatum -- "Also receiving votes" All-Defense.
 

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I predict at most one Celtic on first team all defense (Smart) but most likely is zero. Gobert or Green deserve DPOY more than any individual Celtic in my opinion.
Agreed generally, although I'm not a big fan of giving season ending awards and honors to players who miss significant time. Green has missed half the season, in my book that should disqualify him from 1st team and DPOY.

The Celtics will cancel each other out for DPOY consideration, as it should. It's a major advantage for Smart and TL that they get to play together (and alongside Tatum). I don't have a problem with the voters acknowledging that.
 

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I think you are likely right. I can't recall if the two announcements show "also receiving votes," but if they do, my prediction would look like this:
  • Smart -- 1st Team All-Defense. 4th place DPOY.
  • TL -- 2nd Team All-Defense. 8th place DPOY.
  • Tatum -- "Also receiving votes" All-Defense.
They do. Last year, Smart just missed making one of the teams (among those that missed out, only Mikal Bridges received more votes for a guard) and Jaylen somehow got a (single) vote for 1st team.
 

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I've gotta say - I was really disappointed with Tatum to start the year. I went to the listless loss to a Brandon Boston led Clippers team and couldn't believe the lack of urgency. Really disappointed with how Ime was dealing with the internal strife on the team. Really disappointed with the lack of leadership. Felt like the team was underperforming. I'm so, so, so fucking happy at how wrong I was about all of the above.

It's really easy to be frontrunners and we see how a lot of stars in this league act once things get hard. They check out, start leaking that they're interested in other teams, force other guys to get traded, etc. It says a lot about the character of this team - from FO to coach to players - that they've rallied back from where they were to start the year and now have a reasonable shot at the top seed in the East. It may lead to a second round loss or another kind of underwhelming exit, but it's been so worth it just to watch them play so connected on offense and defense.

It's not analysis, more "Celebrating what is" - it's so easy to root for these guys right now and it's appointment viewing every night, a complete 180 from previous iterations. I feel super lucky as a fan that most of these dudes are locked into contracts and we'll get to watch them continue to learn how to play together.
 

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Yeah, when you realize that Jaylen is probably the 6th best defender on the team, you have some pretty high-end D. Two players are quite likely to be All-Defensive Team, and might even get some DPOY votes. Then JT, Al, and White are all well-above average D guys, arguably in the top quartile of defenders in the league.
According to an article in TheAthletic from today, all of Tatum, Brown, Smart, Horford, Timelord and White are even in the 84 percentile of dEPM (defensive estimated plus-minus), so at least according to this metric even better than just the top quartile.
And neither Theis nor Grant are liabilities on this side of the ball.
 

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According to an article in TheAthletic from today, all of Tatum, Brown, Smart, Horford, Timelord and White are even in the 84 percentile of dEPM (defensive estimated plus-minus), so at least according to this metric even better than just the top quartile.
And neither Theis nor Grant are liabilities on this side of the ball.
Jaylen slightly below, but if that’s one of your weaker defenders, your defense is incredible.

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I predict at most one Celtic on first team all defense (Smart) but most likely is zero. Gobert or Green deserve DPOY more than any individual Celtic in my opinion.
Green should have no shot at DPOY, he has missed too many games.

Gobert will be interesting, in that I think I've seen far more discussion this year about his limitations. Personally he's my 1st team C but not DPOY, he's really good, BUT... you have to play exactly one way with him, and I can't make you DPOY if some games (usually against good teams) you just give your team no ability to adjust and take the beating.

Additionally, if your team has to build the entire defense around you, play exactly to you, and you're supposed to be a DPOY... your team's D has to be better than 10th.
 

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From that Athletic article (which is excellent if you're interested in defensive analytics) :

Considering how much he unlocks and excels in Boston’s scheme, and maybe because he bullied me on Twitter, my pick (for DPOY) as of today would be the Boston guard.
 

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Green should have no shot at DPOY, he has missed too many games.

Gobert will be interesting, in that I think I've seen far more discussion this year about his limitations. Personally he's my 1st team C but not DPOY, he's really good, BUT... you have to play exactly one way with him, and I can't make you DPOY if some games (usually against good teams) you just give your team no ability to adjust and take the beating.

Additionally, if your team has to build the entire defense around you, play exactly to you, and you're supposed to be a DPOY... your team's D has to be better than 10th.
Going to leave us hanging?
 

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This was also a good point from that article:
According to Second Spectrum data, the proportion of ball screens switched by the involved defenders has tripled from 8 percent in 2013-14 to 24 percent so far this season. As a result, different types of defenders have risen in value; those who can guard one through four or even one through five credibly have been more desirable, while all but the most defensively capable drop-coverage bigs have become situational players rather than every-down backs.
It's insanely valuable to have a point guard who can guard 1-5 when offenses are making a point to hunt mismatches, often by getting the other teams PG switched on to their scoring wings.
 

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It's insanely valuable to have a point guard who can guard 1-5 when offenses are making a point to hunt mismatches, often by getting the other teams PG switched on to their scoring wings.
It’s also insanely fun to have a PG that makes opposing Cs weep in frustration when he gets switched on to them.
 

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For those who keep track of JT's minutes per game, please be aware that Ime is about to ramp his minutes up. https://www.bostonherald.com/2022/03/23/0323-bh-s-celtsnotes/

That's right. Ime is going to look to play JT more minutes per game down the stretch because Ime wants to get JT used to playing playoff minutes. However, to offset this, Ime will look to give JT some nights off.

But Ime Udoka is also looking to ramp up the intensity as his team approaches the playoffs, with a legitimate chance to land the conference’s third or second seed. He’s looking, for example, to increase Jayson Tatum’s minutes once the first series starts.
“It’s a balance, for a few reasons. You want to, obviously, be well rested and healthy going into the playoffs but not take away what we’ve improved on and areas we still need to get better at,” said the Celtics coach. “As well as building up playoff minutes. And so it’s a balance there. The 36 or 37 that (Tatum is) at, that’s going to probably increase to 39 to 40 in the playoffs. So we don’t want him to be too rested, where he’s going into the playoffs and take that spike in minutes and he’s tired after a seven-game series or whatever. So it’s a balance there. But nights off, you want to find a full night off, not a 25-minute night. And so that’s what we’ll look at over the next few games.”

Or course, getting JT up to 39-40 mpg is going to require the Cs not to blow out every opponent for the rest of the season. :cool:
 

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And if anyone is interested, article on how Cs shut down UT's 3P shooting here: https://www.celticsblog.com/2022/3/24/22994388/how-the-boston-celtics-shut-down-utah-jazz-three-point-shooting-jayson-tatum-jaylen-brown-ime-udoka.

Basically, UT took 23 open or tightly contested 3Ps and hit 3 of them. They took 13 wide-open 3Ps and hit 5 of them (38.5%). Breakdown here:

Tightly contested (defender 2-4 feet away): 7 attempts, 0 makes, 0.00%
Open (defender 4 to 6feet away): 16 attempts, 3 makes, 18.8%
Wide Open (defender 6 or more feet away): 13 attempts, 5 makes, 38.5%
 

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And if anyone is interested, article on how Cs shut down UT's 3P shooting here: https://www.celticsblog.com/2022/3/24/22994388/how-the-boston-celtics-shut-down-utah-jazz-three-point-shooting-jayson-tatum-jaylen-brown-ime-udoka.

Basically, UT took 23 open or tightly contested 3Ps and hit 3 of them. They took 13 wide-open 3Ps and hit 5 of them (38.5%). Breakdown here:

Tightly contested (defender 2-4 feet away): 7 attempts, 0 makes, 0.00%
Open (defender 4 to 6feet away): 16 attempts, 3 makes, 18.8%
Wide Open (defender 6 or more feet away): 13 attempts, 5 makes, 38.5%
To my eyes, they've been good at forcing opponents off the 3 (or forcing them to take bad ones), which makes sense given RW at the back end and that 3>2. I also think teams are so ingrained into taking 3s that a lot of players (certainly not all or even most, but a lot) think that driving for 2 is "losing" the possession. I can't prove that last point; as I said, it's my eyes based on Celtics games and what their opponents are doing in response to really tough defense.
 

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And if anyone is interested, article on how Cs shut down UT's 3P shooting here: https://www.celticsblog.com/2022/3/24/22994388/how-the-boston-celtics-shut-down-utah-jazz-three-point-shooting-jayson-tatum-jaylen-brown-ime-udoka.

Basically, UT took 23 open or tightly contested 3Ps and hit 3 of them. They took 13 wide-open 3Ps and hit 5 of them (38.5%). Breakdown here:

Tightly contested (defender 2-4 feet away): 7 attempts, 0 makes, 0.00%
Open (defender 4 to 6feet away): 16 attempts, 3 makes, 18.8%
Wide Open (defender 6 or more feet away): 13 attempts, 5 makes, 38.5%
I watched all 48 min of this one and saw a tired Utah team clang open 3 after open 3. Obv our defense has been fantastic this year but to point out the Utah game is kinda funny. After we locked them down early to build a lead both sides kinda went through the motions over the final 30 min or so.
 

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Just having watched all 36 Utah 3 point attempts, I'd say there were quite a few 3s that were either tightly contested or taken from off the dribble. They didn't have a ton of wide open catch and shoot 3's. That said, you'd expect a team to shoot better than Utah shot (22.2%) anyway. Whenever a team is at or near the top of the league on defense, some of that "defense" is partly attributable to 3 point luck.
 

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Just having watched all 36 Utah 3 point attempts, I'd say there were quite a few 3s that were either tightly contested or taken from off the dribble. They didn't have a ton of wide open catch and shoot 3's. That said, you'd expect a team to shoot better than Utah shot (22.2%) anyway. Whenever a team is at or near the top of the league on defense, some of that "defense" is partly attributable to 3 point luck.
Funny. I'm bored but not that bored. :)

I watched 19 of the UT's 21 first-half 3P attempts (Mitchell, O'Neal, Conley, and Clarkson) and what I saw was that UT hig the really open ones. There were certainly a few prayers included. But most of the rest of them, the attempt was either tightly contested or there was a Celtic running at the shooter. To me, few of the 3Ps were what I would consider "open" (not in the NBA.com sense of the defender being 4-6 feet away but in the layperson's sense of "I'm surprised he didn't hit that open 3P) but, as always, people's MMV.

edit: Also, while I agree that shooting luck is certainly a thing, so is making shots harder. The average NBA team takes 35 3Ps a game. Making 40% of those is 14 3Ps a game. Making 30% of those is 10.5 3Ps game, which is a different of 10.5 ppg.
 

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Just having watched all 36 Utah 3 point attempts, I'd say there were quite a few 3s that were either tightly contested or taken from off the dribble. They didn't have a ton of wide open catch and shoot 3's. That said, you'd expect a team to shoot better than Utah shot (22.2%) anyway. Whenever a team is at or near the top of the league on defense, some of that "defense" is partly attributable to 3 point luck.
Many of the three were taken against a run by which is not to be confused with tightly contested. As I wrote in the gambling thread pre-game, this was expected from a team playing their 13th in 23 days and 3rd in 4 on the road. That isn’t to downplay what this Celtics team has done defensively this year but only referring to one night of a scheduling win.
 

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Adam Taylor with an interesting article and some film breakdown on the Cs use of the "ram screen" action here: https://www.celticsblog.com/2022/3/27/22997531/how-the-boston-celtics-are-using-ram-screens-to-generate-easy-offense-jayson-tatum-jaylen-brown. For those who haven't heard of this (which included me before I read the article), a "ram screen" is an action where player C sets a screen for player B, who is coming to set a screen for player A. What the first screen does is to slow down player B's defender so that he is not able to hedge or ice the screen that player B sets for player A.

(The first video in the article explains this better than I could.)

Note that Taylor's Instagram has a bunch of other Cs related film breakdowns that look interesting and that I'm planning on watching once I breakdown and get a FB/IG account.
 

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After watching Towns act like a badass during a stomping of the Lakers, it was fun watching him meekly put up 19 points on 15 shots and do little else. Celtics are turning elite players into mediocre ones. I can't remember a more confident team, not for a long time.
 

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After watching Towns act like a badass during a stomping of the Lakers, it was fun watching him meekly put up 19 points on 15 shots and do little else. Celtics are turning elite players into mediocre ones. I can't remember a more confident team, not for a long time.
KAT had 12 points in the first quarter. The play where Grant steamrolled him on a drive in the middle of the second quarter seemed to take the wind out of his sails (after he hammered Grant a bunch of times earlier in the game).
 

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Celtics are now shooting .352 from 3. The league average is .352. Conveniently, the Celtics are 15th in 3 point shooting.

Everyone is trending upwards too, outside of Grant. He's in a small 10 game funk where he is 7-29 from 3. He's had a few other stretches this year but they were short lived and they'd be followed by a tear.

Brown has recovered after a tough February, which is good to see.
Jaylen's last 12: .510/.362/.680, 22.1 points, 4.9 rebounds, 3.2 assists, 0.9 steals, 2.1 TO. 31.7 mpg. (one game he only played 3 minutes so it lowers his per game totals slightly) Back up to .350 from 3. His career mark is .372, his low mark is .341.
Horfords last 16: .527/.424/.800, 9.8 points, 7.4 rebounds, 3.0 assists, 1.0 steal, 1.4 blocks. 0.9 TO. 30.6 mpg
Tatum's last 28: .505/.414/.892,. 29.9 points, 7.3 rebounds, 5.0 assists, 0.9 steals, 2.6 TO. 35.2 mpg.
Smart's last 32: .449/.374/.833, 12.9 points, 3.9 rebounds, 6.2 assists, 1.4 steals, 2.3 TO. 30.7 mpg.
TL's last 38: .738/.000/.813, 10.3 points, 10.5 rebounds, 2.5 assists, 1.1 steals, 2.5 blocks, 0.9 TO, 30.7 mpg
Payton's last 46: .465/.446/1.000, 7.5 points, 2.0 rebounds, 2.2 assists, 0.5 TO, 15.4 mpg
Payton's last 6: .630/.629/1.000, 13.5 points, 2.7 rebounds, 3.5 assists, 0.8 steals, 0.3 TO, 20.4 mpg.


White is 4/7 from 3 his last 2. Hopefully he can get back to form before the playoffs. Theis has been playing decently too when he plays. It's been a crazy season. Prior to January, it seemed everyone was playing poorly and nothing could go right. Now, almost everyone has recovered and is playing around career norms or having a career year. The one player "slumping" is still having a career year and shooting well over .400 from 3.

Since 1/23, the C's are 4th in the NBA in 3 point % at 37.7% They are also 4th in FG% at 49.0%.

They are an NBA best 24-4 since then with a +15.8 point differential. They are blowing out their opponents.

Since 1/23 (50+ point wins also count as 10+)
50+ point wins: 1 (53, Kings)
40+ point wins: 2 (48, Sixers)
30+ point wins: 5 (30, Heat) (33, Orlando) (35, Nets)
25+ point wins: 8 (29, Wiz, Kings)(28, Jazz)
20+ point wins: 12 (23, Nets) (22, Wolves, Warriors)(20, Nuggets)
10+ point wins: 17 (10, Pelicans, Hawks)(11, Pistons) (13, Grizzles) (14, Hornets)
<10 point wins: 7. (6, Nets, Hornets, Nuggets) (9, Pistons, Pistons, Hawks, Thunder)

Their 4 losses: 16 points (Hawks), 1 point (Pistons), 21 points (Pacers), 3 points (Mavs)

Pretty absurd that over a 28 game stretch, the C's have beaten their opponents by 25+ 32% of the time. They are beating opponents by 20+ 43% of the time.

2nd and 3rd best team over that stretch:
Suns 25-5, +9.2
Memphis 20-7, +10.3

4th in point differential is Minnesota at 6.7. They are 21-10 over that stretch. Tied for 6th with the Nuggets. 76ers and and Mavs are both 20-9, with a +2.8 and +2.7 respectively. Outside of the Mavs and Suns, they have beaten all those teams convincingly.
 

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Remember the pictures earlier this year when JT had the ball and he was facing a wall of 3 defenders and basically none of the 5 defenders were concentrating on anyone else? Well contrast it to the two pictures below.

In the first picture (end of 1Q), even though JT has a pretty good look plus he has wide open lanes to drive, he passes to PPwhose defender is still too far over to JT and PP drills it.

Even in the second picture below, while everyone is concentrating on JT, they are also acutely aware of PP and White. (They seemed less concerned about Smart, but that's probably why he's shooting so well these days.) And that play ends up in what is for JT an easy fadeaway jumper, which he buries.

Teams having to defend the pass really opens the floor up for JT. And JB.

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Kind of a heartbreaking OT loss last night because the Celtic, missing 4 of their best 5 players, nearly took out a healthy Toronto team that needed the win more. (The Celtics fall from first to tied with 2 other teams at 1 game back, whiile Toronto, having won, is in 6th but only one game ahead of #7 and the play in - so it was a bigger deal for Toronto).

The Celtics surprised Torono by having a good offensive first quarter and going up 38-30. Toronto came back with a 29-20 second quarter to take a one-point lead into the second quarter, and the 2 sides played mostly even the rest of the way until the OT, where Toronto outscored Boston 9-6 and won.

The Celtics big offensive problem is that their shooters shot poorly and they had no offensive go-to guy. This was like watching their early season inability to close games out, only magnified. Marcus Smart led the team in scoring, with 28 points, but he shot 10 for 25, 2 for 11 from three, and missed 3 free throws (6 of 9). He also had 10 rebounds, which was great, but only 4 assists against 7 turnovers, which was not great. Late in the game, they repeatedly isolated Smart (the way they would have done Tatum or Brown or Schroder earlier in the season) and he repeatedly was stopped or turned it over. On the plus side, Marcus did shoot 8-14 from 2, and that included a lot of the nice drives and finishes that have been part of his 2022 offensive growth. But Marcus needs to see a lane - even a small one - and go, rather than pound the ball and then create. When he did the former, he was getting to the basket and often scoring or getting fouled. When he did the latter, he was getting stripped or stuffed. (I think part of Marcus' offensive improvement is the starts around him, and another part is buying into the Ime 0.5 second system. He doesn't have the pressure on him that a PG without Tatum would have, but he also finds those lanes that he can drive through.)

Very late in the game, they started trying to iso White instead of Smart, and that didn;t work either. White shot abysmally (4 of 16), though he was better from three (3 of 8). He added 8 assists and 6 rebounds against 3 turnovers. Third on the team with 15 points. His game was symbolized by one play either late in regulation or in the OT. Celtics absolutely need a basket, they iso White, he drives and makes a great move under the baskey to shake off the defender, and he puts up a open layup-distance shot... and has nothing on it, misses by a mile.

Third on the list of shooters not shooting is Payton Pritchard, who took his red hot streak into this game and shot... 3 of 12 overall and 2 of 9 from three. A good shooting game out of him and the Celtics win. But I think this was an obvious case of Pritchard having less time and space to work with and rushing his shot. 10 points, 8 rebounds, 5 assists from him vs turnover, but even a decent shooting game from him would have meant a win.

There was also a lot of guys getting swallowed up under the basket. I don't think the Celtics attempted a single lob all game long. On the one hand that makes sense - Rob, Al, Jaylen, and Jayson are probably the 4 guys who have most of the lob finishes this year and all were out. On the other, Theis can finish lobs - he can't reach everything Rob can, but the Celtics need to learn to throw him ones he can handle. There were a few bounce passes in the lane to Theis where a better placed lob might have done the trick.

But Theis was good and now the wisdom of the Schroder for Theis trade is on full display. If they were going with Kanter or rent-a-center, they would be in trouble now. But Theis can give decent backup C minutes in their system. He played 41 minutes, drew only one foul (a truce in the war on Theis?), and had a double-double of 13 points and 10 rebounds. Not bad, and the Celtics almost won this game.

Grant had 17 points and 7 rebounds in 39 minutes, though his shooting was off (5 of 13, 1 of 3 from three). Nesmith started and was mostly an offensive afterthought but made some plays. He shot 5 of 8 from the field and 2 of 4 from 3 for 13 points, and also added 3 steals.

Kornet gave some decent minutes off the bench. He played 15 minutes and had 6 points and 7 rebounds. A couple of key putbacks. Not a terrible "break glass in case of emergency" third C.

Sam Hauser did some nice stuff. In 21 minutes, he shot 4-6 and 2-3 from 3. His 2 2 point baskets - one of them on agreat cut and nice finish - were his first 2 2-point baskets of the season. He added 5 rebounds and a block. I think maybe there is a bench shooter there.

All in all, they battled and almost won. Dissappointing loss, but great to see the JV squad take Toronto right down to the wire.
 

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Sam Hauser did some nice stuff. In 21 minutes, he shot 4-6 and 2-3 from 3. His 2 2 point baskets - one of them on agreat cut and nice finish - were his first 2 2-point baskets of the season. He added 5 rebounds and a block. I think maybe there is a bench shooter there.
I saw Hauser with the Maine Celtics a few weeks ago and he was TERRIBLE - like, not even good enough for the G League. Then I saw him against Minnesota the other day with the big squad and he looked much better, so looks like this is the real Hauser. Also, Matt Ryan who was on the bench for the Celtics last night was awesome in another Maine Celtics game last week. He had like 43 points, mostly on 3's, and had the crowd really into it.
 

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I think Hauser is likely close to unplayable in the playoffs. He didn't look bad last night because:
1. The Raptors' half court offense is a tire fire
2. They weren't hunting mismatches.
 

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I think Hauser is likely close to unplayable in the playoffs. He didn't look bad last night because:
1. The Raptors' half court offense is a tire fire
2. They weren't hunting mismatches.
If the Celtics play Toronto in the playoffs (as likely as any matchup at this point), the Raps might not break 100 in any game. Their offense looks *really* grindy, even against weaker Celtics defenders.
 

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The Celtics defense still projects as ferocious, regardless of Williams’ status. Al Horford’s versatility has been credited by league personnel as key an ingredient as any within Boston’s scheme. It was just two years ago the Celtics reached the conference finals with Daniel Theis, reacquired from Houston at the trade deadline, as their starting 5. They’ve since seen both Theis and Grant Williams have success alongside Horford this season.
League figures credit Tatum—known for his quiet, humble demeanor—for taking a larger role as a vocal leader for Boston this season. For a coaching staff with such deep San Antonio ties, Tatum’s approach to his craft, his professionalism, his consistency all runs parallel to those of Kawhi Leonard and Tim Duncan.

Leading by example still matters, too. During games, both Tatum and Brown’s commitment to defense has helped establish expectations down Boston’s roster.

Boston has six more regular-season games to tweak and experiment its scheme without Robert Williams, one of the league’s most valuable defenders this season. But if any team can sustain such a loss, it’s one with the NBA’s best-ranked defense and an offense that has two proven playoff isolation scorers in Tatum and Brown.

“They’ve finally figured it out,” said one Eastern Conference executive. “When you do that, and you have two top-20 players, that’s very, very scary.”
 

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I am reading in Canada that the Celtics are unclear on Tatum and a few other Celtics being able to play in Canada with the Vaccine requirements.
This is because Windhorst (falsely based off of Ime’s press conference) that some Celtics players weren’t vaccinated based off of the injury report for the Raptor game. Seems to be much ado about nothing
 

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Timelord is the Walton of this team. Id he is ever healthy they win it all.
Maybe they need to dind a starter and have the best center in the league play 20-25 minutes all year.
 

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As a side note, if sports fans want to see what an emotional hedge looks like in online print form, mosey on over to today's KOC piece from The Ringer. In short, he is pretty adamant that TLs injury kills the Cs finals chances. I suspect I am on an island but I simply don't agree with him.
 

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As a side note, if sports fans want to see what an emotional hedge looks like in online print form, mosey on over to today's KOC piece from The Ringer. In short, he is pretty adamant that TLs injury kills the Cs finals chances. I suspect I am on an island but I simply don't agree with him.
If we can avoid certain matchups we’ll still have a chance. Losing TL kills us against the Bucks as we had trouble keeping Giannis from the rim even with him in the lineup.
 

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Well it isn't going to be an easy path. But they have Tatum, Brown and a very defined rotation that plays well together. Williams is a huge loss but they can still win without him.
 

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As a side note, if sports fans want to see what an emotional hedge looks like in online print form, mosey on over to today's KOC piece from The Ringer. In short, he is pretty adamant that TLs injury kills the Cs finals chances. I suspect I am on an island but I simply don't agree with him.
Just like losing Kyrie and Hayward killed them in 2017-2018. This is a cohesive, versatile and talented unit with or without Time Lord. They absolutely can make a deep run. And the NBA being what it is, there’s no telling who will be healthy as the playoffs proceed. Just keep grinding.
 

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If we can avoid certain matchups we’ll still have a chance. Losing TL kills us against the Bucks as we had trouble keeping Giannis from the rim even with him in the lineup.
Yes, we've seen the last couple years in the playoffs how often other teams can run into their own bad matchups, or have guys get hurt.
 

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Just like losing Kyrie and Hayward killed them in 2017-2018. This is a cohesive, versatile and talented unit with or without Time Lord. They absolutely can make a deep run. And the NBA being what it is, there’s no telling who will be healthy as the playoffs proceed. Just keep grinding.
I mean, it kinda did? Without 2 all-stars they got to game 7 of the EC finals (great!), but they still lost, and they likely would've been flattened by the Warriors. If Hayward had been healthy in 2020, maybe they have enough horses to get past the Heat and actually match the Lakers in the finals.