Celtics vs. Heat, Round 3 Discussion

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Mugsy's Jock

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In a post-game interview last night Grant said that he had no expectation of starting the second half, and did so only because Rob was in the bathroom at that moment. Timelord being Timelord.
Funnily, on his pod Bill Simmons said starting Grant in the second half was a brilliant coaching move by Udoka because when he brought in Rob later it meant Bam never had a chance to come off the court for a rest in the third quarter.

So maybe Ime just asked Rob if he had to go.
 

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Celts now at 89% to advance and 76% chance to win it all at 538. The Warriors are only at 90% to advance despite the 3-1 lead and no team ever coming back from 3-0 down to win a series.

I don't buy that the Celts are an 85-15 favorite over the Dubs given their health.
 

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He moved in 129th all time last night, with 1508 playoff points. Last night he passed the lifetime totals of Chris Webber, LaMarcus Aldridge and Sidney Moncrief. At 24. And he’s still just 19.
I would have expected more playoff points from Moncrief. Who knew?
 

JerBear

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Funnily, on his pod Bill Simmons said starting Grant in the second half was a brilliant coaching move by Udoka because when he brought in Rob later it meant Bam never had a chance to come off the court for a rest in the third quarter.

So maybe Ime just asked Rob if he had to go.
In the postgame press conference, Ime said TL was getting extra stretching in. Seems they haven't gotten their stories straight.
 

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He's probably already a Hall of Famer considering he's the best Dominican basketball player of all time and his success at Florida.
Exactly where I was going. He is a legend in the DR, and as the best player from X, coupled with his longevity, playing in a big market, etc., he is almost certainly making it into the HOF. It probably helps that the guy is universally loved by people in the NBA, but he'll have the votes to get in when he hangs them up. A title with the Celtics would make it a foregone conclusion.

FAT. Last night there was a angle of him walking back to the bench. He was WIIIIIII--------->DE
I say this as a fat guy myself. So I know its probably not cool to body Shame. But it is Lowry.....so hopefully the Mods overlook this one.
He has dumps like a truck, truck, truck.
 

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If you are a long-time C's fan - and I know you as are many of us - its about as poetic as you can get. Beating anyone to get to the Finals is great. Beating the Riley-led Heat is sublime. They need to close this out tomorrow.
A Warriors/Celtics finals with Steph/Tatum/Brown is pretty much your dream, no?
 

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They could really use the rest that would come with a close out on Friday night. Hoping Dallas can take this to six or seven as well, just to force the Warriors to play more minutes.
plus if Dallas can win tonight, then during Saturday's Game 6 we'll start seeing Red Sox 2004 references. Even if they go down in flames.
 

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I realize this post is completely devoid of any basketball content, but how fat is that dude gonna get once he’s out of the league? Big Baby better watch out.
Hes starting to look a bit like fat Jadakiss
 

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I’m not saying he is I just think it is the best chance Miami has to score in the halfcourt.
If that is the case, and it may be, Miami is well and truly screwed.

Bam was only scoring last night on putbacks and contested jumpers outside the restricted area. He doesn't force any help, because the default shots he gets iso'ing against Grant/Al/Rob are of very, very low quality.
 

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Exactly where I was going. He is a legend in the DR, and as the best player from X, coupled with his longevity, playing in a big market, etc., he is almost certainly making it into the HOF. It probably helps that the guy is universally loved by people in the NBA, but he'll have the votes to get in when he hangs them up. A title with the Celtics would make it a foregone conclusion.



He has dumps like a truck, truck, truck.
Also, not sure if this was posted here already, but it is the basketball hall of fame, so him being the best player on back-to-back NCAA champs factors into his induction. It's not limited to his NBA career.
 

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This is such a weird series. 3 blow out wins, 2 other games where the Celtics lost quarters by about 25 (didn't look it up), yet in a game 6 no one, including myself, thinks there is any chance the Celtics lose this series.

Given how conditioned we are to every other night basketball, a one week layoff is going to feel longer than 2 weeks for the super bowl.
 

Smokey Joe

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I realize this post is completely devoid of any basketball content, but how fat is that dude gonna get once he’s out of the league? Big Baby better watch out.
You must be mistaken.

The Miami Heat culture is know for demanding the best version of players. That’s thanks in a large part to it’s conditioning program, that cuts no corners for anyone, even if you’re Dwayne Wade or Lebron James. When you come to the Heat, you get in the best shape of your life. That’s it. Everyone knows it, and that’s all there is to it. No negotiation.
Miami News Times “Five reasons why Miami #Heatculture is Real”

So as you can see, Lowry could not possibly be overweight or out of shape.
 

jmcc5400

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This is such a weird series. 3 blow out wins, 2 other games where the Celtics lost quarters by about 25 (didn't look it up), yet in a game 6 no one, including myself, thinks there is any chance the Celtics lose this series.

Given how conditioned we are to every other night basketball, a one week layoff is going to feel longer than 2 weeks for the super bowl.
Of course there’s a chance. They’re in a great position, but Marcus and Rob are still day to day and Al is playing heavy minutes every other night at a week shy of 36. Anything can happen, which is why you do everything you can to cash out tomorrow night.
 

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Yeah. They were in this exact position in 2018 vs Cleveland. They reached this stage four of the last six seasons. I know, everyone's matured. Circumstances have changed. The roster is more cohesive. Players have ascended. But they still have to close this thing out, executing with a sense of urgency and calmness in equal measure.

I won't let myself think about what potentially lies ahead until the task at hand is completed. It would be way too painful otherwise.
 

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That isn't a nightmare. Miami winning the next two games would be a nightmare.

Lots of chicken counting going on in this thread...
My post that kicked things off acknowledged that nothing is determined yet.

Also what @DJnVa said. The next time a post here has any impact on a real world professional sporting event will be the first. 22+ seasons and counting.
 

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Yeah. They were in this exact position in 2018 vs Cleveland. They reached this stage four of the last six seasons. I know, everyone's matured. Circumstances have changed. The roster is more cohesive. Players have ascended. But they still have to close this thing out, executing with a sense of urgency and calmness in equal measure.

I won't let myself think about what potentially lies ahead until the task at hand is completed. It would be way too painful otherwise.
Exact in the sense that they were up 3-2, of course. Different in that they were headed to Cleveland for game 6, and playing Lebron. I'm generally of the mind that one shouldn't count chickens, like yourself, but this isn't much like 2018 other than the game count.
 

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I think the best way to put it is that if the Celtics lost the series at this point it would be considered a catastrophe and a pretty epic choke job.
 

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This Celtics team has felt like it has struggled to show urgency when they start to read their own press clippings. I have no idea how anyone can be supremely confident for tomorrow. Maybe I’m just late to come around on them but I don’t trust them to just show up and put them away
 

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I think the best way to put it is that if the Celtics lost the series at this point it would be considered a catastrophe and a pretty epic choke job.
I’ll take it a step further. If they don’t curb stomp Miami at home tomorrow I’ll be pretty shocked.
 

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Exact in the sense that they were up 3-2, of course. Different in that they were headed to Cleveland for game 6, and playing Lebron. I'm generally of the mind that one shouldn't count chickens, like yourself, but this isn't much like 2018 other than the game count.
I'm aware of the differences in terms of the scenario. This group still hasn't broken through to the Finals was all I was saying. To start looking past Miami now would be ill-advised. The Celts should win this series and advance. The memory of The Bubble should still be pretty fresh in their minds and provide plenty of extra motivation to return the favor. I'm cautiously optimistic that they can do that, but Spo scares the shit out of me. The poor ball-handling scares the shit out of me. The health of Rob and Smart, Jimmy's knee feeling miraculously better, Herro recovering... lot's of things are still to be sorted out was my point. Didn't mean to rain on the confidence.
 

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If the Celtics win another banner this year, does Horford get his number retired?
For helping turn the Celtics around after their rebuilding year and his triumphant return to lead the Celtics to titles 18 & 19? It's a mortal lock.
 

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I don't think anyone would be shocked if the Heat find a way to win tomorrow night.

That said, I think there is very, very good chance it looks a lot like game 6 vs the Lakers in 2008.
 

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This Celtics team has felt like it has struggled to show urgency when they start to read their own press clippings. I have no idea how anyone can be supremely confident for tomorrow. Maybe I’m just late to come around on them but I don’t trust them to just show up and put them away
I am hoping last night, in which they did finally show that urgency and killer instinct following a blowout performance, represented a getting-over-the-hump of sorts with regard to playing like their backs were against the wall
 

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I'm aware of the differences in terms of the scenario. This group still hasn't broken through to the Finals was all I was saying. To start looking past Miami now would be ill-advised. The Celts should win this series and advance. The memory of The Bubble should still be pretty fresh in their minds and provide plenty of extra motivation to return the favor. I'm cautiously optimistic that they can do that, but Spo scares the shit out of me. The poor ball-handling scares the shit out of me. The health of Rob and Smart, Jimmy's knee feeling miraculously better, Herro recovering... lot's of things are still to be sorted out was my point. Didn't mean to rain on the confidence.
I got the spirit of your post, for sure. I've been glacially slow to accept this team as being legit, so at the risk of jinxing things I'll refrain from making a confident post. ;)
 

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I am hoping last night, in which they did finally show that urgency and killer instinct following a blowout performance, represented a getting-over-the-hump of sorts with regard to playing like their backs were against the wall
Yeah last night felt like a turning point from this standpoint
 

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Game 6 injury report pretty much as expected:

BOS - Smart - questionable
BOS - Williams - questionable
BOS - Hauser - out

MIA - Herro - questionable
MIA - Tucker - questionable
MIA - Lowry - questionable
MIA - Strus - questionable
MIA - Vincent - questionable
 

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This Celtics team has felt like it has struggled to show urgency when they start to read their own press clippings. I have no idea how anyone can be supremely confident for tomorrow. Maybe I’m just late to come around on them but I don’t trust them to just show up and put them away
This goes back to what I said last page about when you have young stars there are often bumps in the road which usually results in failure prior to the finish line. The fact that Miami’s locker room is a hospital ward is a potential saving grace as they are very capable of laying a complete egg prior to their trip to Cancun. I do expect us to win tomorrow bc even if we have issues is generally isn’t on the defensive end. If Miami runs out the same lineup as they have the last two games I’m not worried at all until The Finals.
 

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One thing that's cool about this post-season run is that there have been a lot of different heroes. It's not all the Tatum show, by any means. From White, to Pritchard, to Grant, to TL, to Horford - I'd go so far as to say even Theis had one good game (not hero level - certainly), everybody in the rotation or on the edge of the rotation has had a game where they stepped up and really contributed.
 

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Exact in the sense that they were up 3-2, of course. Different in that they were headed to Cleveland for game 6, and playing Lebron. I'm generally of the mind that one shouldn't count chickens, like yourself, but this isn't much like 2018 other than the game count.
Heading to Cleveland to play LeBron with an offense that revolved around a 20 year old rookie and a 21 year old second year player. I guess they had a younger Al, but jaysus there’s universe’s difference between 2018 Jaylen and 2022 Jaylen. With Tatum it might be a multiverse’s difference.
 

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I expect them to win but if they get massively out-rebounded (again), fumble their way to a bunch more turnovers than the Heat (again), have most of their three-point shots be either in a bad spot, or well-defensed, or rushed at the end of the shot-clock (again), and have Tatum spend half of the game looking like his dominant arm is dead (again), I’ll be pretty worried. Actually I am kind of worried because of all of the above despite the relative blowout win last night.