UCL Group Stage - Match Week 5 (Oct. 25-26)

67YAZ · Oct 25, 2022

Liverpool are through with a point tomorrow.

The bigger value in that is getting to rest & rotate for the final match against Napoli.

Vinho Tinto · Oct 25, 2022

Too bad Rafa dropped out of the Selecao this close to the World Cup. With Diogo Jota suffering his leg injury, he would have received quality minutes in Qatar.

the1andonly3003 · Oct 25, 2022

non-COVID illness for Cancelo and Haaland View: https://twitter.com/ManCityMEN/status/1585016433594998797?s=20&t=kItuSZ91BVge7j8Sdz5a6g

Zososoxfan · Oct 26, 2022

Absolute howler from Hugo Lloris to have Sporting go up 1-0. To my untrained eye, that looked like a good piece of scouting by Sporting's coaching staff. Spurs have been very good in recent weeks in pressing high, and it's usually when Bentancur reacts to a trigger and jumps high as well.

Sporting won a free kick in their half, seemed to bait Spurs and Bentancur into the press, played a VERY slick ball to split the 2 CMFs, and then various Spurs players weren't able to disrupt the attack. All that said, a good but slow low shot to the far post from well outside the box beat Hugo.

I can dismiss Hugo's lack on skill on the ball when he's stopping every shot in sight like he was during the MAN U game, but if that's slipping, Hugo needs to sit for a bit.

67YAZ · Oct 26, 2022

Liverpool had wrestled control back of the match after half an hour and then allowed a 4 v 2 counter that Ajax wasted. Oooffff

CPT Neuron · Oct 26, 2022

Nunez making a meal out of little contact there....still some shithousery for Klopp to rid him of

Jimy Hendrix · Oct 26, 2022

Spurs are a real snooze right now. I can't go with the people screaming for Conte to go, that's wild, but they're absolutely sleepwalking and getting the results to match it.

67YAZ · Oct 26, 2022

But Salah does it!

Great ball by the Captain & the wonderful first time finish.

CPT Neuron · Oct 26, 2022

Oh Mo Salah....lovely finish

Pesky Pole · Oct 26, 2022

Lovely goal. Henderson with the seal out and shoulder dip then the outside of the foot pass. Salah with clinical finish.

Pesky Pole · Oct 26, 2022

I can't believe Nunez missed that one from Bobby.

67YAZ · Oct 26, 2022

Pesky Pole said:
I can't believe Nunez missed that one from Bobby.

He did make the post ring, but yeah.

Bobby has been delivering some fantastic passes today.

Zososoxfan · Oct 26, 2022

Jimy Hendrix said:
Spurs are a real snooze right now. I can't go with the people screaming for Conte to go, that's wild, but they're absolutely sleepwalking and getting the results to match it.

It's so hard to determine whether Conte is doing the right thing by running the best V into the ground (Dier, Hoj, Bentancur, Son, Kane) and getting results, or if he needs to start rotating. I mean, Spurs fandom is fully crazy--the club is sitting 3rd in the EPL and still in a good position to make it out of the UCL group (at least for now), but it does feel like they're stuck in low gear.

Conte may not rate Spence, Gil, Bissouma, or Skipp, but while Deki is out, Conte probably needs to be a bit more risk tolerant with Spence and Gil. Then again, Conte is on the record as valuing draws highly, and he's a bawse, so what do I know.

CPT Neuron · Oct 26, 2022

That's better from Darwin there....

67YAZ · Oct 26, 2022

Maybe the shithousing is worth it?

67YAZ · Oct 26, 2022

Elliott from a tight angle! Nice ball by Mo, helluva finish!

CPT Neuron · Oct 26, 2022

And the running boots are on....what an emphatic finish from Elliott there

CPT Neuron · Oct 26, 2022

67YAZ said:
Maybe the shithousing is worth it?

I think Nunez is a huge talent and is worth the shithousing for sure, I'd just like to see that coached out of his game. He's incredibly gifted and should hone those skills, not his acting chops. I'd like a Golden Boot, not an Oscar.

Jimy Hendrix · Oct 26, 2022

We've got the fun version of a Conte team for the second half. I hope they get something out of it

PedroSpecialK · Oct 26, 2022

Kind of feel for Kenneth Taylor. Gets booed when he comes on bc he's replacing Brobbey, is admittedly absolutely awful in his cameo, and gets whistled for every poor touch.

67YAZ · Oct 26, 2022

Timber with quite the dribble there for a CB. I’m sure Pep got excited.

Zososoxfan · Oct 26, 2022

This is fucking wild in the Spurs match. Arry put one in the net during the last 30 seconds of stoppage time. Still being reviewed.

shawnrbu · Oct 26, 2022

Last 5 times Bayern has played Barca in the Champions League dating back to August 2020:

8-2
3-0 (Camp Nou)
3-0
2-0
3-0 (Camp Nou)

Zososoxfan · Oct 26, 2022

Goal ruled off. Clown show.

rguilmar · Oct 26, 2022

Holy shit with the Atleti match. Tied 2-2 penalty given after VAR review after the final whistle

Jimy Hendrix · Oct 26, 2022

Spurs just got an offside that came off a defender, this looks like a total fuckup unless I am confused.

Pesky Pole · Oct 26, 2022

Atletico saved after the final whistle on an interesting hand ball?

Holy crap....save, crossbar, saved by their own player

shawnrbu · Oct 26, 2022

Bonkers ending in Madrid.

rguilmar · Oct 26, 2022

Penalty saved, then Saul hits the bar, then blocked on the line.

Atlético are out.

swiftaw · Oct 26, 2022

rguilmar said:
Holy shit with the Atleti match. Tied 2-2 penalty given after VAR review after the final whistle

Holy shit again.

allstonite · Oct 26, 2022

Atletico ending absolute insanity. Ended 2-2 then VAR called down for a handball on the final corner. Arms were tucked but it hit his shoulder. Not a penalty IMO

Penalty saved, follow up hit crossbar, follow up 2 blocked over cross bar. Wow that was nuts

Jimy Hendrix · Oct 26, 2022

Jimy Hendrix said:
Spurs just got an offside that came off a defender, this looks like a total fuckup unless I am confused.

It appears that I am confused but the rule is also now garbage? I dunno. Baffling shit that nobody ever would have called in the pre-VAR era.

Zososoxfan · Oct 26, 2022

My biggest complaint about VAR is the time allowed for review. Once the video is queued up, there needs to be a 30-60 second timer and a decision needs to be announced promptly thereafter. Someone else said it in the VAR thread, but there's a disconnect between the threshold that VAR uses (clear and obvious error), which is a good high bar, and the fact that these poor guys are being asked to Zapruder this shit.

It's been said before, but video review offers the illusion that we can officiate sports perfectly. We can't yet. That should be reflected in how this all works in practice.

the1andonly3003 · Oct 26, 2022

I see that CBS Sports had their own fan fest....

DJnVa · Oct 26, 2022

Zososoxfan said:
Goal ruled off. Clown show.

I mean, okay. Clear and obvious.

SocrManiac · Oct 26, 2022

I’ve made my feelings on this clear. I’m fucking done with this shit.

Morgan's Magic Snowplow · Oct 26, 2022

It was a technically correct call but also an example of VAR ruining the game’s best moments.

SocrManiac · Oct 26, 2022

Morgan's Magic Snowplow said:
It was a technically correct call but also an example of VAR ruining the game’s best moments.

How do you know?. The technology can’t detect anything at these margins.

Gunfighter 09 · Oct 26, 2022

Can someone explain to me why they need to draw a subjective (in where they place it) fake line when they can just judge off of the front of the 6 yard line?

How can anything "clear and obvious" take 4.5 minutes of video arts & crafts to determine?

If Offside calls that decide matches are going to determine UCL advancement then they greatly need to increase the number of cameras around the stadium and at the least need to have spider cam following the forward most players on the attack. It's insane that they used that angle to make that kind of subjective call.

Morgan's Magic Snowplow · Oct 26, 2022

SocrManiac said:
How do you know?. The technology can’t detect anything at these margins.

You're right, I should rephrase and say that on those grounds the decision was questionable to the same degree that every close offside VAR decision is questionable.

When I said technically correct, I was mainly referring to other aspects of the situation. Most of the outrage I see about this on Twitter is not about where the lines were drawn but instead about the ball moving backward and hitting a Sporting player before going to Kane, neither of which actually matter.

SocrManiac · Oct 26, 2022

I agree that the law was applied correctly if Kane was in an offside position.

I see absolutely no conclusive evidence that he was in an offside position.

And I fucking hate Harry Kane and Spurs.

Morgan's Magic Snowplow · Oct 26, 2022

SocrManiac said:
I agree that the law was applied correctly if Kane was in an offside position.

I see absolutely no conclusive evidence that he was in an offside position.

And I fucking hate Harry Kane and Spurs.

Agree on all three points!

OCST · Oct 27, 2022

the1andonly3003 said:
I see that CBS Sports had their own fan fest....

On the field near my place where we go to mess around, about a 5 minute walk

bosox4283 · Oct 27, 2022

rguilmar said:
Penalty saved, then Saul hits the bar, then blocked on the line.

Atlético are out.

What a disappointing Champions League year for Atletico. But it may be for the best. Atleti can point to the lack of Champions League revenue to sell a few players, reinvest these dollars, and use the core of promising young players to give the team a spark next year.

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