Echoing the Jefferson praise as well as the observation that the defense was up against a beast. After watching him and Lamb play today, its easy to see why these players are so valuable - they are almost impossible to defend.
9 Wins? They have games against the Raiders and Cardinals left and then home games against Miami and Cincy, not like either of those are unwinnable. Even if they lose both to Buffalo, they'd need to take 3 out of 4 of those, very doable.Hope so but it will require winning one of the Bills games.
Getting a win tonight would have been immense for their playoff chances.
Don't forget Hockenson. That dude has been hidden in Detroit - if he played on a contending team the past few years he'd already be a star. He's a beast.Echoing the Jefferson praise as well as the observation that the defense was up against a beast. After watching him and Lamb play today, its easy to see why these players are so valuable - they are almost impossible to defend.
yeah.. Mac was the problem tonight. /sPatricia, Dugger, Palardy, Jon Jones, the refs, etc. etc. Fine.
But it sure would be nice to have a QB who could be relied upon to see receivers when they're open. Or throw the ball away to avoid a sack at a key moment. Or lead a TD drive at the end of a game. Sure, Mac made a handful of good throws tonight and put up 382. But when he's needed most, he's simply not competitive. And when he the leader of your offense isn't competitive when the pressure is on, he deserves to be on this list.
I agree with this. It’s no accident that Allen leveled up after the Diggs trade. Same with Hurts / Brown, Tua / Hill, etc.Echoing the Jefferson praise as well as the observation that the defense was up against a beast. After watching him and Lamb play today, its easy to see why these players are so valuable - they are almost impossible to defend.
Sure. When has an official ever admitted a mistake?
Would it surprise you that game also involved Blakemen?Pierre Strong. If he is cut this week I won't be surprised.
The referees. Egregiously bad. I feel like I felt after Gronk was held in the endzone against Carolina years ago.
One more good draft this spring, loading up on O-Line, safety, and WR, and this team is going to be a fucking monster. Buffalo or KC better get it done this year, because this team is one year away. You watch.
i don’t like conspiracy. He reffed the pats chiefs afc title game in Jan 2019 and we were ok with him then.Would it surprise you that game also involved Blakemen?
I don’t know why they drafted Thornton. Doesn’t fit their prototype successful receiver, doesn’t have a prototype NFL WR body that will hold up. And they went way off the board for him. Need to see a lot more from him.How do they not scheme the fastest player on the field a single touch. Hate to say it but Pickens looks like an elite WR in PIT and Thornton looks like he might be a useful gadget player if he can stay healthy. A big if.
Nailed it. How has this happened.We went from the best situational team in football to one of the worst gradually over the last few years. I guess maybe situational awareness is what you work on when the other stuff is well under control and we don’t have the other stuff well under control.
When good decisions need to be made under pressure, we wilt. I don’t know who is to blame.
Nothing conspiratorial about the guy has some fairly incompetent reffing at very big moments and doesn’t understand the rule book.i don’t like conspiracy. He reffed the pats chiefs afc title game in Jan 2019 and we were ok with him then.
Not sure this is true.i don’t like conspiracy. He reffed the pats chiefs afc title game in Jan 2019 and we were ok with him then.
Pitt was reportedly going to draft Thornton, hence the Pats move on him.And of course Pittsburgh made the right WR pick immediately after. Sickening.
Are you suggesting that Blakeman officiated yesterday’s Pats game?Would it surprise you that game also involved Blakemen?
Holy fuck turkey coma made it all blend together. How did I transpose him from the Detroit game. Holy shit. SorryAre you suggesting that Blakeman officiated yesterday’s Pats game?
So did HH lose control? Yes.If a player who has completed the first two, but not the third requirement for possession, contacts the ground and loses control of the ball, there is no possession...
Isn't the salient difference between the two plays that Kelce had two feet down with the ball in his hands and Henry did not? Thus Kelce has established possession and Henry has not?Sure. When has an official ever admitted a mistake?
View: https://twitter.com/TonyCMKE/status/1595982017707274241
there is a word for what that statement from Walt is. And its what comes out of a horses behind
He had a shoulder injury.Special goat to the independent neurologist who somehow cleared Jacoby after his first catch so he could get some more brain damage on the second.
Except the blocked punt was on a 4th-and-10 situation, so a running into the kicker play results in a retry of the kick. This was a 4th-and-3, and the defense was clearly unable to stop Jefferson. Far better option to let the punt fly; the game was tied at the time. Fireable or cuttable offense.Just a comment on the punt penalty: they called the same play against Indy and it led to a blocked punt.
Movement of the ball does not constitute loss of control.Alex Kemp was the Referee. And if you want to litigate the 2019 Chiefs game with Blakeman you would be remiss not to mention this terrible roughing the passer:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVIp-N6LhI4
Alright let's talk about the catch. The NFL has tried to make this a checkbox process in order to make it as objective as possible. I see people posting the 2018 rule change, but not a lot of understanding of what the change is. They basically made the catch rule match the rule the NCAA has had for a long time. To have a catch, you need three elements in order:
1) Firm control of the ball
then
2) Two feet or any non-hand body part on the ground
then
3a) Survive the ground
OR
3b) Make a "football move", such as reaching the ball across the goal-line, warding off an opponent, etc.
The "3b" is the 2018 change. Previously, if a player was going to the ground, it didn't matter what else they were doing because they only needed to survive the ground. Now, the Dez Bryant play is a catch because he was reaching the ball across the line.
The Kelce play is a catch as soon as he tries to reach the ball across the goal-line, because he's checked all three boxes.
Now the HH play:
He jumps and controls the ball. That's part 1 satisfied. He lands on the ground with one foot and turns and reaches the ball across the goal-line. But, crucially, part 2 has not yet been checked off because there are not two feet on the ground, and the three-part process must be done in order. HH doesn't satisfy part two until his elbow contacts the ground in the endzone, after which point he clearly doesn't have any time to make a football play.
So we are back to surviving the ground to check the third box. I'll just paste the relevant rule here:
So did HH lose control? Yes.
Did the ball make contact with the ground (hand under it isn't material)? Yes.
I went and watched it again, this part is tight. But I think the ball does touch the ground.Wait, how is it immaterial that the hand was under the ball? If what hits the ground is actually Henry's HAND, with the ball on top, and the ball bounces up, he can juggle it for ten minutes like Kearse did in the Super Bowl, and as long as he catches it, it's a catch. That's what I see. Him making the catch, then the ball in his hand, with his hand under the ball, and the ball/hand - the hand being the thing that actually touches the ground and the ball on top of the hand - hitting the ground, then as he pulls it back in, he loses a little control and then quickly regains it.
You didn't read my post. (b) was not fulfilled until HH was on the ground, so this entire quoted paragraph is moot.
You definitely need to Zapruder this thing, which is frustrating because we thought the NFL had taken steps to streamline the process and reward catches that, well, look like catches.Wait, how is it immaterial that the hand was under the ball? If what hits the ground is actually Henry's HAND, with the ball on top, and the ball bounces up, he can juggle it for ten minutes like Kearse did in the Super Bowl, and as long as he catches it, it's a catch. That's what I see. Him making the catch, then the ball in his hand, with his hand under the ball, and the ball/hand - the hand being the thing that actually touches the ground and the ball on top of the hand - hitting the ground, then as he pulls it back in, he loses a little control and then quickly regains it.
On another note....the Pats were literally like three inches from winning this game.
The Henry catch/non-catch, which needed Zapruder-level frame-by-frame replay to overturn a touchdown, and then the Agholor non-catch when he was interfered with (and no call), which was *just* past his outstretched fingers.
You are getting your info from football media, who quite frankly are not very good at their job. Survive the ground never went away, the rulebook is publicly available, and the relevant section has already been posted.Oh and “surviving the ground” hasn’t been a thing since 2018. Like, what are we doing here? They fucked up, badly. He caught the ball, had a hand under it the whole time, and even if the ball moves, if it doesn’t actually hit the ground, the movement doesn’t matter.