I remember that game well.
There are 3 QBs on the roster.. none of them can throw that ball into the EZ from there reliably.
No that was my point... I am SURE Jakobi knows not to do it... he still did it. He didn't do it because Bill failed to specifically tell him not to. That's just a player doing a dumb thing, and not in any way related to the coaching of the team.
The draw play was called to safely run out the clock while giving Stevenson a tiny chance to win it for them. Then Stevensonn ripped off a good but not good enough run and the players started freelancing.
I agree with you on this and think SJH is way overreacting on Meyers. But the team as a whole continues to make dumb mistakes over and over for two years and that I put on Belichick. He’s made more excuses in press conferences the last two years than he did in the previous 20. That’s where he’s losing me. It’s dumb football and consistently dumb football. And it used to be inexcusable for Bill but since Brady left it seemingly no longer is.
Well, he said "couldn't throw it that far" and not "can't throw it that far", so I guess you got me
Yeah the weird shorthand for "player makes mental mistake" must mean "coaching failure" is just too simplistic.
They were on their own 45. He has to drop back probably 5-10 yards to get the time it would take to get it to the end zone (gotta give your stacked group receivers that run 4.6's time to get there), and it's gotta get into the end zone, so he has to probably put 65 into it.
This is my larger point on the Meyers thing. There’s zero accountability for anyone. It’s Week 15 and they’re still playing stupid football replete with silly mistakes. And nothing ever changes and Bill doesn’t change the players and they go out there and make silly mistakes again.
Maybe, I think mostly well coached teams are less often in bad situations where players try to do too much, which is where the worst dumb things happen. And even then, it's often that we associate winning with good coaching, so we assume guys with better talent are better coaches.
Eh. It was a dumb play, but Meyers mostly looked like he was enacting the organization's collective tension just now about Making Things Happen.
They’re not even making the playoffs now after that fucking atrocity. And I’d rather make the playoffs then not. So I disagree, I think today was a tremendously harmful day for the future success of this franchise under BB.
So we just forget his boneheaded drop today where he was looking down field instead of at the ball?
Nitpick but even if they won in Miami in 2004 they’d have finished the same 15-1 as Pittsburgh with a H2H loss and would still have played there in the AFCCG
True but they didn‘t know this when they blew the game to a truly awful team.
Because Mac likely cant reach the end zone from there and the the running play was the safer option.
They’re not going to bench him for that. It’s an idiotic choice but not going to bench him
You mean the trite overhyped post-hoc catch phrase of a successful football team? Those players aren't walking through that door and BB is 20 years older.
Then the mistakes will continue unabated. Not this particular mistake because the situation will never come up again, but others will. Because there are zero consequences for idiotic play.
Is it really continuity if the guy has never coached offense?
Yeah, the answer for that is “we did what we thought was best for the team.” And if he wanted to extrapolate, “we liked our odds on the draw and potential for overtime.”
You think players are making mistakes because they're not afraid enough of getting spanked? I don't think that's how players' minds work in the snap decision making situations you're seeing here.
Im not even that mad about the Meyers play. He was handed a fucking live grenade with no preparation and he panicked. Shit happens. One minute he's thinking about making his block, and the next he has his teammate lateral him the ball with no time left as if they were down by 2. He wasn't ready for it, probably had a million thoughts run through his head at once, "we have a chance to win! why did he lateral it?! Did I misread the score? Fuck, I have the hot potato, I don't want to get tackled and be the reason we lose! Blluuaashhhhhhh!!!" and he panicked.
They’re certainly not worried about losing any playing time due to mistakes. They’re not improving at all in cleaning up mistakes this year.
I just...did anyone ask him if he thought Mac would catch it and outrun 11 Raiders? There was no other Patriots near Mac--all that would happen would be your QB getting tackled for no reason.
But that's exactly why I invoked Do Your Job. The whole point is to make sure players are disciplined and don't freelance their way into boneheaded plays like that. That's what leadership is about.
Ok so why is the coaching staff fine with having players on the field panic? Do you see what I’m getting at here? If Meyers is that prone to losing his goddamn mind over a lateral, why is he being trusted to get playing time?
I’ve been making that comparison for weeks. They’re in similar spots. Lack of elite talent. No real clear plan. I would have voted Pats prior to today. Now I’m on the fence.
I'd still vote for the Patriots as Kraft is committed to winning more than John Henry actually is.
Maybe they are not worried about losing playing time. Maybe they are too worried about losing playing time.
