View: https://twitter.com/coves121/status/1762876322542506416/photo/1I would like to see where those grades rank in terms of the other teams in the league.
The players. I believe the NFLPA does it after every season.Who does the voting on this? I've never seen this sort of listing before
Yeah, I need more context here. Is he a dick behind the scenes? Does he ignore the team? Does he rip into them? Does he only hang out with the good players? Are players blaming contract disputes on him instead of the GM?That's not shining a good light on Kraft
Treatment of Families | D+ | 18th |
Food/Cafeteria | C- | 26th |
Nutritionist/Dietician | F | 31st |
Locker Room | F | 28th |
Training Room | D | 31st |
Training Staff | F | 32nd |
Weight Room | C+ | 23rd |
Strength Coaches | C+ | 27th |
Team Travel | D | 27th |
Head Coach | A+ | 1st |
Ownership | F- | 32nd |
They were grounded to start the season. I don’t know if they ever got them back under a new contract.I think they're putting in a new weight room, right?
The travel thing has seemed weird since they own Air Kraft 1.
Every year we have to rediscover that the QB being A++ gets you 85% of the way there.
Treatment of Families D+ 18th Food/Cafeteria C- 26th Nutritionist/Dietician F 31st Locker Room F 28th Training Room D 31st Training Staff F 32nd Weight Room C+ 23rd Strength Coaches C+ 27th Team Travel D 27th Head Coach A+ 1st Ownership F- 32nd
The above is the Kansas City Chiefs. They have won the Super Bowl the last two seasons. These grades mean nothing in terms of translating to on-field success.
Caley traveled to New England for a second interview with the Patriots, whom he worked for from 2015–22, over the weekend of the conference title games, and was offered the Patriots offensive coordinator job by his old staffmate Jerod Mayo. And he was offered it at a very competitive salary, which reflected the respect Mayo has for him.
It was tough to say no. But Caley had such a good experience last year with the Rams, that the idea of leaving was more difficult than turning down a coordinator job. So he stayed, and McVay, as I’ve heard the story, was ecstatic that he did (and McVay showed that emphatically on the phone with Caley when he was told he was staying). In turn, the Rams have since made it worth his while by giving him the pass-game coordinator title that Robinson left behind when he decided to go run his own offense in Atlanta under Morris.
Exactly. You can't give the owner an F- and the Head Coach an A+.
Treatment of Families D+ 18th Food/Cafeteria C- 26th Nutritionist/Dietician F 31st Locker Room F 28th Training Room D 31st Training Staff F 32nd Weight Room C+ 23rd Strength Coaches C+ 27th Team Travel D 27th Head Coach A+ 1st Ownership F- 32nd
The above is the Kansas City Chiefs. They have won the Super Bowl the last two seasons. These grades mean nothing in terms of translating to on-field success.
Makes sense to me from a career progression standpoint. Much more stable situation.Breer reporting that Mayo offered the OC job to Caley, but Caley turned it down to with McVay.
The scary part is that they could start providing all of that stuff and it wouldn’t affect the profit margin, but the players would really appreciate it.Honestly the big takeaway from NFLPA is that players think Kraft is cheap (with some good reason)... bad facilities, one of only 4 teams without childcare/daycare facilities, one of the only teams without family rooms, poor weight rooms and facilities, etc.
They think that they can embarrass owners, and sometimes they probably do. It's not about winning labor negotiating points, it's about getting fringe benefits for players for free. It's getting local radio to talk about how the owner is a cheap fuck who won't provide (or charges for) daycare, etc. etc.The "survey" doesn't look like much of anything other than a bitchfest, but does the NFLPA grasp how ineffectual these surveys make them look? Do they imagine publishing stuff like this will bring about changes they can't seem to win during labor negotiations?
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39616360/dolphins-vikings-top-players-survey-nfl-teams-chiefs-31stThe Cincinnati Bengals, who were criticized following last year's survey for not providing players three meals a day, made a very slight change to that policy and now offer three meals at the facility on Wednesdays.
The team that made the biggest overall improvement from last year to this year was the Jacksonville Jaguars, who opened a new training facility and jumped from 28th to No. 5 overall. Last year's survey included a complaint about rats in the Jaguars' team facilities.
BB? No. He got a B-. Andy Reid got an A+.The big meenie hardass got an A+ from the players?
Thanks. I guess I didn't read thoroughly enough.BB? No. He got a B-. Andy Reid got an A+.
I doubt it. The family stuff I put up-thread, but they have some of if not the worst family policies for home games. As to travel, they have older planes, I think at one point they were flying commercial due to a dispute with their servicer, etc.I wouldn’t be surprised if the terrible grades on travel and families both relate to the Germany game.
No NFL team ever flies commercial.I doubt it. The family stuff I put up-thread, but they have some of if not the worst family policies for home games. As to travel, they have older planes, I think at one point they were flying commercial due to a dispute with their servicer, etc.
I thought that was pretty common. It'd be a private flight but still a commercial jet.No NFL team ever flies commercial.
They were flying American Airlines, special routes yes, but just standard commercial jets.No NFL team ever flies commercial.
That might explain the plunge from D+ last year to D this year. I'm more interested in how training staff went from A to F in one season.They were flying American Airlines, special routes yes, but just standard commercial jets.
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The Revs were always notoriously cheap, Kraft had the rep as being one of the guys most opposed to the increased spending that newer owners pushed for.https://www.masslive.com/patriots/2024/02/revs-werent-allowed-to-eat-patriots-spread-so-star-player-bought-breakfast-for-teammates-instead.html
Furthering the Kraft is cheap narrative and has been for a while...
Just seems penny wise pound foolish way to do things for a owner who is so rich, whose teams is plenty profitable, and prides himself for owning the revs as well.
Maybe it is more directed at Jonathan if he is running more while his Dad is stepped back ?
Could that be related to Bill being old school in any way about weight training and not relying on modern gear? @Marciano490 to thread …The weirdest part to me is the F for Weight Room. That is an obvious way to exploit an edge without any cap issues and to not have the best possible training facilities for a HC like Bill that looks to exploit every possible edge is really surprising.
It could be the actual size of the gym itself. There’s only so much room to work with at Gillette, and some of these college facilities at the big state schools are massive.Could that be related to Bill being old school in any way about weight training and not relying on modern gear? @Marciano490 to thread …
This was discussed last year when this started to come out. The Stadium is over 20 years old, as said above the College ones are massively upgraded because they have to in order to draw talent and also many NFL teams have completely separate training facilities. The Krafts are "being cheap" (which I don't really buy into) by trying to do everything at Gillette and not spending the money on separate facilities. I think this is kind of nonsense but I do think they need to upgrade the facilities and it's not like they don't have the land to do it at Foxboro, but the footprint in Gillette is what it is.It could be the actual size of the gym itself. There’s only so much room to work with at Gillette, and some of these college facilities at the big state schools are massive.
These players make millions of dollars and still need their teams to provide three meals a day?ESPN story on this has some tidbits
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39616360/dolphins-vikings-top-players-survey-nfl-teams-chiefs-31st
I wonder if Patriot Place limits the amount of renovation or expansion they can do to the team facilities.It could be the actual size of the gym itself. There’s only so much room to work with at Gillette, and some of these college facilities at the big state schools are massive.
Eh, my feel is Bill didn't think the facilities they had were enough either, even if his preferred training regiments weren't modern. The way he went so over the top in praising the Raiders' facility (the 'Taj Mahal') made that as clear as he could possibly make it publicly.Could that be related to Bill being old school in any way about weight training and not relying on modern gear? @Marciano490 to thread …
When you say a team flies commercial to someone like me who has worked in the industry of flying football teams to places, that term to me means going through normal channels of going through the airport to fly like you and I would on a flight to the Bahamas. That's why I said no NFL team flies commercial to any game. Every NFL, FBS, and most FCS teams charter the jet and the team gets bused onto the tarmac and gets on the plane. Everybody either contracts with an airline or goes through a travel agency like Road Rebel to facilitate flights. In my time traveling on football charters, we've gone mostly on Sun Country planes but there are times that we've gone with JetBlue because of the length of the flight and the ability to have in-flight TV.They were flying American Airlines, special routes yes, but just standard commercial jets.
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They are in the middle of building a brand new weight room.The weirdest part to me is the F for Weight Room. That is an obvious way to exploit an edge without any cap issues and to not have the best possible training facilities for a HC like Bill that looks to exploit every possible edge is really surprising.
Not all players make millions of dollars...plus the teams make hundreds and hundreds of millions. I think they can afford the hit of providing three meals a dayThese players make millions of dollars and still need their teams to provide three meals a day?
Funny thing is... you should want as much control over what your guys eat. Why chance them eating poorly when you can provide them a meal for not much money that is in keeping with what you want your guy eating.I may be wrong, but I am guessing the issue with food / meals has very little to do with the cost and more to do with the convenience / nutrition aspect.