2020 NFL: NFC Power Rankings

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1 rams
2 no
3 gb
4 sea Tier B
5 SF
6 TB
7 DAL
8 ZONA
9 CHI Tier c
10 Wash
11 NYG tier D
12 CAR
13 ATL Tier e
14 DET
15 PHILLY
16 MINN
 
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Seattle is too low. Rams are too high. Atlanta behind Carolina and the Giants is aggressive. Minnesota behind Detroit is a tough call. Overall, not a bad list but I have some quibbles.

Seattle should be #1. Saints at 2. GB at 3. SF at 4. Rams at 5. Zona at 6. Tampa at 7. Dallas at 8. Chicago at 9. Philly at 10. Minnesota at 11. Atlanta at 12. Washington at 13. Carolina at 14. Giants at 15. Detroit at 16.
 

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San Francisco may be in the top 5 but they have been decimated. No WRs to speak of, losing two topmplayers on defense, Kittle is out and now Jimmy G also. That more or less ckears the way for Seattle.
 

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Seattle is too low. Rams are too high. Atlanta behind Carolina and the Giants is aggressive. Minnesota behind Detroit is a tough call. Overall, not a bad list but I have some quibbles.

Seattle should be #1. Saints at 2. GB at 3. SF at 4. Rams at 5. Zona at 6. Tampa at 7. Dallas at 8. Chicago at 9. Philly at 10. Minnesota at 11. Atlanta at 12. Washington at 13. Carolina at 14. Giants at 15. Detroit at 16.
The Seahawks defense might be terrible. It was last year, and has been lit up in two games so far.
 

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The Seahawks defense might be terrible. It was last year, and has been lit up in two games so far.
I know but their offense is unstoppable. And they have two pretty solid wins thus far.(almost all of the Atlanta yards and points came in late garbage time and Atlanta killed Dallas yesterday, until Quinn remembered he is a huge fan of giving up insurmountable leads)

I am less convinced with Brees at QB than Wilson, who is cookin'.
 

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The Seahawks defense might be terrible. It was last year, and has been lit up in two games so far.
The LBs are good, the secondary is good, the pass rush is abysmal. They have run stoppers in the middle. They need someone to get to the quarterback.

Edit: And I don't think the Seahawks can be the best until they find a pass rush. I'd go NO, GB, SEA, SF, TB, LAR, ARI
 

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I think the Packers are No. 1 ... but this coming Sunday night in New Orleans will put that to the test
 

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I know but their offense is unstoppable. And they have two pretty solid wins thus far.(almost all of the Atlanta yards and points came in late garbage time and Atlanta killed Dallas yesterday, until Quinn remembered he is a huge fan of giving up insurmountable leads)

I am less convinced with Brees at QB than Wilson, who is cookin'.
Yes Wilson is cookin', but Pete Carrol is still the executive Chef. And as long as Pete is there to make calls like throwing a bomb on 3rd and 2 when a first down pretty much wins the game, then Wilson's brilliance has a lot it has to make up for. Of course he is so good, he just may do that.
 

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The Seahawks defense might be terrible. It was last year, and has been lit up in two games so far.
If Diggs wouldn't have cheap shotted the receiver and gotten tossed, does that change how successful Cam was last night?

The lack of a pass rush, though, is going to sink the Seahawks.
 

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If Diggs wouldn't have cheap shotted the receiver and gotten tossed, does that change how successful Cam was last night?
Maybe. I'm not necessarily sold on the sustainability of throwing bombs to Edelman, though Seattle might want to switch up how they defend slot receivers.

Pats were also minus their second-best receiver (James White).
 

j-man

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Seattle is too low. Rams are too high. Atlanta behind Carolina and the Giants is aggressive. Minnesota behind Detroit is a tough call. Overall, not a bad list but I have some quibbles.

Seattle should be #1. Saints at 2. GB at 3. SF at 4. Rams at 5. Zona at 6. Tampa at 7. Dallas at 8. Chicago at 9. Philly at 10. Minnesota at 11. Atlanta at 12. Washington at 13. Carolina at 14. Giants at 15. Detroit at 16.
i had seattle at 1 but pete really blew the last 2 min with that 3rd and 1 call and had mcd made a better call with 3 sec left seattle is 1-1
 

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Seattle is too low. Rams are too high. Atlanta behind Carolina and the Giants is aggressive. Minnesota behind Detroit is a tough call. Overall, not a bad list but I have some quibbles.

Seattle should be #1. Saints at 2. GB at 3. SF at 4. Rams at 5. Zona at 6. Tampa at 7. Dallas at 8. Chicago at 9. Philly at 10. Minnesota at 11. Atlanta at 12. Washington at 13. Carolina at 14. Giants at 15. Detroit at 16.
I’m aligned with your top 7, and aside from sliding SF down to #7, I can accept the order, though I’d probably put NO with Thomas healthy ahead of SEA. The Cowboys look likely to win the NFC East by default, and I can’t see putting anyone in the 10-16 slots ahead of a team that is 2-0, notwithstanding how unimpressive the Bears’ two wins were. Not going to wrack my brain wracking those bottom 7 teams; the only one that’s relevant is Philly, since they only need to leapfrog Dallas to get a home playoff game.
 

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I’m aligned with your top 7, and aside from sliding SF down to #7, I can accept the order, though I’d probably put NO with Thomas healthy ahead of SEA. The Cowboys look likely to win the NFC East by default, and I can’t see putting anyone in the 10-16 slots ahead of a team that is 2-0, notwithstanding how unimpressive the Bears’ two wins were. Not going to wrack my brain wracking those bottom 7 teams; the only one that’s relevant is Philly, since they only need to leapfrog Dallas to get a home playoff game.
The Bears are going to be 3-6 after 9 weeks. 2 weeks is too early to judge by W/L record. Agree with everything else you say here.
 

Ale Xander

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1. SEA
2. GB
3. Rams



4. AZ
5. NO (with Thomas)
6. SF (without Bosa)
7. TB


8. DAL






9. CHI
10. DC


11. PHI


12. 28-3, 39-24
13. MIN
14. CAR
15. NYG (without Saquon)
16. DET
 

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I think the Packers are No. 1 ... but this coming Sunday night in New Orleans will put that to the test
I'm less certain this is going to age well. Maybe it was an off-night, but that NO secondary sure seemed mistake prone Monday. And the Brees arm-strength issues have been discussed elsewhere.
 

Ale Xander

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1. Green Bay
2. Seattle
3. San Francisco



4. Los Angeles née St. Louis
5. Tampa
6. Arizona

7. Chicago
8. New Orleans


9. Dallas




10. Detroit
11. D.C.
12. Philadelphia
13. Carolina
14. Burnin'lanta
15. Minnesota




16. G-I-A-N-T-S (without Saquon)
 

j-man

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1 GB
2 SEA
3 TB
4 Rams
5 NO
6 CHI
7 Car
8 ZONA
9 SF
10 PHILLY
11 DAL
12 WFT
13 MINN
14 DET
15 ATL
16 NYG
 

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1 GB


2 SEA
3 TB


4 Rams
5 NO
6 Car

7 CHI
8 ZONA
9 SF


10 PHILLY
11 DAL
12 DET
13 ATL

14 WFT
15 MINN
16 NYG
 

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1. GB
2. Sea
3. SF
4. LAR
5. NO
6. TB
7. Chi
8. Dal
9. Min
10. Phi
11. Ari
12. Car
13. Atl
14. Det
15. Was
16. NYG
 

Ale Xander

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1. GB
2. SEA


3. RAMS







4a. TB
4b. NO (with Thomas)



6. CHI
7. ARI






8. SF
9. CAR









10. DAL
11. PHI





12. MIN
13. DET



14. WASH
15. ATL




16. NYG
 

j-man

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1 SEA
2 TB
3 GB
4 ZONA
5 RAMS
6 SF
7 CHI
8 NO
9 CAR
10 DET
11 PHILLY
12 WASH
13 ATL
14 NYG
15 MINN
16 DAL
 

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Tampa is going to the NFC Championship Game. Brady is in great form, the team is loaded, and they have a fantastic defense.
 

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1 SEA
2 TB
3 GB
4 ZONA
5 RAMS
6 SF
7 CHI
8 NO
9 CAR
10 DET
11 PHILLY
12 WASH
13 ATL
14 NYG
15 MINN
16 DAL

Jman, how the F is Seattle 1? You would favor them over Tampa on a neutral field? They can’t stop anyone. I don’t know, maybe I just realized I need Seattle to start blowing games because Jets have their picks going forward.

Anyhow, I go like this

TB

GB
SEA
NO
Zona
SF (seems high given their record and injuries but they have looked damn good against the Pats and the Rams)


LAR (I like watching them but Goff low key sucks)
CHI

CAR
DET
PHI

WFT
ATL
MIN

NYG
DAL
 

j-man

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Jman, how the F is Seattle 1? You would favor them over Tampa on a neutral field? They can’t stop anyone. I don’t know, maybe I just realized I need Seattle to start blowing games because Jets have their picks going forward.

Anyhow, I go like this

TB

GB
SEA
NO
Zona
SF (seems high given their record and injuries but they have looked damn good against the Pats and the Rams)


LAR (I like watching them but Goff low key sucks)
CHI

CAR
DET
PHI

WFT
ATL
MIN

NYG
DAL
Seattle is 1 because IF they get homefield noone is beating them in sea TB is great now but once the playoffs start can their off score 38 plus aga GB NO ZONA SEA
 

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Seattle is 1 because IF they get homefield noone is beating them in sea TB is great now but once the playoffs start can their off score 38 plus aga GB NO ZONA SEA
Come on.

There is no homefield. And Seattle has one of the worst defenses in the NFL.(Ranked 28th in DVOA) And, just to note, Tampa is first in defensive DVOA by a mile.

Seattle is certainly not unbeatable and homefield is nearly worthless in the Covid era.
 

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Come on.

There is no homefield. And Seattle has one of the worst defenses in the NFL.(Ranked 28th in DVOA) And, just to note, Tampa is first in defensive DVOA by a mile.

Seattle is certainly not unbeatable and homefield is nearly worthless in the Covid era.
These Patriots nearly beat them on the road after looking dead and buried for 75% of that game. I think Seattle is toast come playoff time if their defense doesn't significantly improve. They can only win games one way and if Wilson is anything less than stellar they're immediately in trouble. Tampa and Green Bay can beat you if Brady/Rodgers play a so so game.
 

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These Patriots nearly beat them on the road after looking dead and buried for 75% of that game. I think Seattle is toast come playoff time if their defense doesn't significantly improve. They can only win games one way and if Wilson is anything less than stellar they're immediately in trouble. Tampa and Green Bay can beat you if Brady/Rodgers play a so so game.
Saying no one is beating Seattle if they get homefield(which they won't and it won't matter anyway) is a take.
 

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Come on.

There is no homefield. And Seattle has one of the worst defenses in the NFL.(Ranked 28th in DVOA) And, just to note, Tampa is first in defensive DVOA by a mile.

Seattle is certainly not unbeatable and homefield is nearly worthless in the Covid era.
Normally, obviously Seattle's HFA is huge. Not so this year, as you observed. Tampa is the best team in the NFC, and they're just adding pieces now. If Tom stays healthy, this is the team to beat.

A Tampa-KC Super Bowl would be incredible.
 

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San Fran is intriguing. 4-3 after two impressive wins the past two weeks. Still dealing with a ton of injuries. Very difficult schedule coming up. Sea, GB, NO, LAR, Buf.
 
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Come on.

There is no homefield. And Seattle has one of the worst defenses in the NFL.(Ranked 28th in DVOA) And, just to note, Tampa is first in defensive DVOA by a mile.

Seattle is certainly not unbeatable and homefield is nearly worthless in the Covid era.
wilson has that 80's broncos magic vibe where he can almost win by himself it was elway greatest mistake not drafting him in 2012 because he was too small at 5 11 right now Pittsburgh and tampa are the best teams but if the postseason games are close the NFL wants a mahomes vs Wilson SB 55 and its seems only brady can stop the Goodall dream SB Matchup
 

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tier 1
1 sea
2 tb

tier 2
3 no
4 zona
5 rams
6 chi
7 gb

tier 3
8 sf
9 philly
10 det
11 car

tier 4
12 minn
13 atl
14 wash
15 dal
16 nyg
 

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tier 1
1 sea
2 tb

tier 2
3 no
4 zona
5 rams
6 chi
7 gb

tier 3
8 sf
9 philly
10 det
11 car

tier 4
12 minn
13 atl
14 wash
15 dal
16 nyg
my minor quibbles. I put Tampa 1, SF tier 2, Phi tier 4. Maybe add a tier 5 for Dallas.
 

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TB doesn't look that great to me. Also if Arians is going to bench his best RB to get more touches for Fournette their ceiling goes down to me. They have a good line, and Jones has been the clear better back.
 

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TB doesn't look that great to me. Also if Arians is going to bench his best RB to get more touches for Fournette their ceiling goes down to me. They have a good line, and Jones has been the clear better back.

They might not look good in a vacuum but what actual team looks better. Biggest point differential in NFC(82), AZ is second with 57.
 

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They might not look good in a vacuum but what actual team looks better. Biggest point differential in NFC(82), AZ is second with 57.
Fair, looking at it, every team at the top in the NFC has some really nice wins and some really awful games. Even SEA, they could easily be 2-5 and all the losses would have been deserved.
 

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I can see about 6 teams or maybe even more representing the NFC in the Super Bowl. Every good team is flawed. I guess if Tampa's receivers are healthy come playoff time they'd be the ones to beat, but I'm not writing off nearly anyone at this point.
 

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I can see about 6 teams or maybe even more representing the NFC in the Super Bowl. Every good team is flawed. I guess if Tampa's receivers are healthy come playoff time they'd be the ones to beat, but I'm not writing off nearly anyone at this point.
At first I thought you might be exaggerating for emphasis, but I counted 7 that wouldn’t shock me if they got hot at the right time.
 

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At first I thought you might be exaggerating for emphasis, but I counted 7 that wouldn’t shock me if they got hot at the right time.
I could see any of the top 8 with health, the right matchups and a hot QB run in some cases (Paging Nick Foles).
 

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I could see any of the top 8 with health, the right matchups and a hot QB run in some cases (Paging Nick Foles).
Bears would shock me given the QB play, but history could repeat. I do have SF as live because when moderately healthy they look really good.
 
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Bears would shock me given the QB play, but history could repeat. I do have SF as live because when moderately heathy they look really good.
Yeah, the Bears was literally just... if Foles has one of his 3 game hot streaks.
SF was a matchup team, they sneak in and get 2 of the softer run defenses and they'll just run all over teams if healthy.
 

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tier 1
1 GB
2 NO
3 TB i will give them a pass for now

Tier 2
4 SEA
5 RAMS
6 ZONA

TIER 3
7 CHI
8 MINN
9 CAR
10 ATL

TIER 4
11 SF
12 PHILLY
13 DET
14 NYG
15 DAL
16 WASH
 

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NO looked better than anyone tonight but they have looked highly mediocre in many other games. I think I would combine jman’s tier 1&2

I’m going to LOL if ATL can grab the 7 seed. They might be a problem.
 

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Atl is really very good they beat denver 34-13 had they fired quinn after week 2 they are at least 5-4 right now