2020 ALCS: Good vs Evil

scottyno

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Brutal non ask by the home plate ump, game on the line... and he got the call wrong
 

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Swinging strike or not is simply umpire discretion, not if the guy broke the plane. Understandable call with the rule as written and I have zero issue with it.

I say this as someone who had much less a concern with the signs scandal compared to the Taubman taunts regarding Osuna.
 

scottyno

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Swinging strike or not is simply umpire discretion, not if the guy broke the plane. Understandable call with the rule as written and I have zero issue with it.

I say this as someone who had much less a concern with the signs scandal compared to the Taubman taunts regarding Osuna.
It's not remotely understandable because the rules allow the ump to check with a base ump for a reason, they are more likely to get the call right. In the biggest spot in the game, with essentially the whole series on the line, Nelson failed to use the help that was there for him.
 

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Altuve had no errors all season or in the first two rounds, three crucial ones so far this series.
 

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A team takes a 3-0 lead in a best of 7 is the gift that keeps on giving.
 

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Brutal non ask by the home plate ump, game on the line... and he got the call wrong
I think it's 50/50 whether that's a strike on appeal. Maybe you correct down for the situation, but it wasn't an obvious no-swing.

I'd agree that it was close enough that he should have asked 1B instead of calling it himself, I just disagree that it's a foregone conclusion that 1B would have decided differently.
 

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I think it's 50/50 whether that's a strike on appeal. Maybe you correct down for the situation, but it wasn't an obvious no-swing.

I'd agree that it was close enough that he should have asked 1B instead of calling it himself, I just disagree that it's a foregone conclusion that 1B would have decided differently.
This is a fair take and your last point is one echoed by the TBS panel after the game. The appeal itself seemed easy enough.

Again, unless you are part of the Astros organization or one of their fans, there will be few tears for that call. However if Nelson made that same choice with any other team, it would likely be a much bigger issue today.
 

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I'd be this salty too, if my team had spent by-far the most money of any team in the league in the last 11 years and had not even a pennant to show for it.
Yes, it’s just killing me. Baseball is so important when you get into your 70s. I almost jumped off the scoreboard at McCoy Stadium after the LDS loss to Tampa but couldn’t get inside the park.
 

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Yes, it’s just killing me. Baseball is so important when you get into your 70s. I almost jumped off the scoreboard at McCoy Stadium after the LDS loss to Tampa but couldn’t get inside the park.
When did the Mormons start fielding their own team?
 

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This is a fair take and your last point is one echoed by the TBS panel after the game. The appeal itself seemed easy enough.

Again, unless you are part of the Astros organization or one of their fans, there will be few tears for that call. However if Nelson made that same choice with any other team, it would likely be a much bigger issue today.
Yeah, these jackasses skated with no punishment whatsoever for their scheme. If a few close calls go against them, too bad so sad. It almost seemed like an FU type of call...an appeal is pretty standard in that situation but the home plate ump emphatically punches him out instead. GTFO, Altuve. I don’t know if that’s intentional, but if it was I’d be totally fine with it.
 

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I am so angry about the timing of these games. Instead of starting the Dodgers when their fans are home and ready to watch baseball, and letting people watch the Rays when they are still awake, again and again the Dodgers are early and the Rays are late.
 

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I am so angry about the timing of these games. Instead of starting the Dodgers when their fans are home and ready to watch baseball, and letting people watch the Rays when they are still awake, again and again the Dodgers are early and the Rays are late.
5pm and 6pm tomorrow and Friday, although hopefully not necessary.

The 8:40 thing is absolutely ridiculous, esp in the era of routine 4h playoff game times.
 

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I am so angry about the timing of these games. Instead of starting the Dodgers when their fans are home and ready to watch baseball, and letting people watch the Rays when they are still awake, again and again the Dodgers are early and the Rays are late.
The Dodgers were the late game on Monday and also on Thursday and Friday, seems like they are trying to keep it even. One issue is that since the AL games are in California, putting them earlier means that sun/shadows mess up the early part of the game.
 

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I am so angry about the timing of these games. Instead of starting the Dodgers when their fans are home and ready to watch baseball, and letting people watch the Rays when they are still awake, again and again the Dodgers are early and the Rays are late.
Dodgers were the later game for game 1 and they're playing an east coast team, really no way to make everyone happy. If they start games when Dodgers fans are ready to watch baseball then you're asking Atlanta fans to stay up until potentially what, 1-2am?
 

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there is a scheduled 9:08 eastern start for the Dodgers, if the Rays can't finish off the Astros soon.

the real issue is they refuse to do any 1pm weekday games in the LCS round, even this year when more people are at home.
 

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4 pm Eastern is a nice time. But might create the light and shadows problem late in the game. Don't know. I hope I can make it through the seventh inning stretch tonight.
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Timmons on the take, there. That was an atrocious 3rd strike call on an textbook checked swing by Arozarena with two on in a 2-run game. Appalling.