Packers: Rodgers’ Chances of Returning to GB in Jeopardy!

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Is he really going to do that at age 37 and miss a prime year (only to still be under contract with the Packers)? I have to believe this is a PFT fever dream or, if leaked by Rodgers' camp, a short-term bluff.
 

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Probably a bluff, but if he's willing to retire over this stuff anyway, he's got an option to get paid for another year before he does.
 

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This article was simply Florio pointing out how the 2021 NFL Covid policy gives Rodgers an option he wouldn't have had in a normal year and generating clicks. My read of the article is that it didn't include any news from the Rogers' camp.
 

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Schefter: This off-season, the Packers offered Aaron Rodgers a two-year contract extension that would have tied him to Green Bay for five more seasons and made him the highest-paid QB and player in football. Rodgers declined the offer, proof it’s not about the money.
I think Schefter makes a leap from the first sentence to the second.

Without revealing the details of the supposed offer, how much of it was in escalators or bonuses, etc, he's just assuming that it's "proof it's not about the money."

It's a fascinating tweet, though, because the first sentence would appear team leaked while the second players into the Rodgers narrative
 

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It's a fascinating tweet, though, because the first sentence would appear team leaked while the second players into the Rodgers narrative
For sure. Schefty makes AR look like a hero in the second which has been the case all along for Schefty's reporting on this story.
Not sure what the next move is here, we are definitely at an impasse.
 

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If he sits out the year, then it's proof that it's not about the money.
Yeah, this is all pretty much noise until there's a regular season game in progress with a different QB taking the snaps for GB.

Schefter is an embarassment here. A contract extension can never be considered by either side ever again?
 
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Major rumblings that Rodgers is preparing to retire as early as Monday.
If it was really this bad, I can’t believe the packers didn’t trade him to the niners pre draft. It sounded like they could have had pick 3 for him and either sold it for a ton or taken their pick of fields/lance/Jones.

maybe it’s all bluster, but wow that’s a misjudge if true.
 

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Yep. All for show.
And why is that a problem?

When teams conclude that a player is not as useful as they previously believed, they are free to cut or trade the player. Rodgers is the rare player with the ability to force his way to another team when he comes to the conclusion that his current team resembles a clown car.

Rodgers owes Green Bay nothing.
 

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Couldn't "Last Dance" mean that they plan to play one more year in Green Bay?
 

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And why is that a problem?

When teams conclude that a player is not as useful as they previously believed, they are free to cut or trade the player. Rodgers is the rare player with the ability to force his way to another team when he comes to the conclusion that his current team resembles a clown car.

Rodgers owes Green Bay nothing.
I never said it was. I don’t blame him, but I highly doubt he’s done playing football forever.
 

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I agree it's most likely a show. But are the Packets willing to throw away the season and wait until week 9 to find out?
 

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They could always check in on Stevia Grogan.

What exactly is he trying to accomplish? Does he want LaFleur and the FO gone?
Its pretty clear to me, he wants to play elsewhere.

Maybe Shailene wants him closer to her, maybe he just doesn't want to waste his last years on a team he doesn't feel is building out towards a title.

Either way, the Packers contributed to this by drafting Love. I think their best option now is deal Rodgers to get the assets to put around him. Or let Rodgers possibly retire and get nothing.
 

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This is probably a lost season or even two without Rodgers anyway, so Green Bay might as well wait it out and hope he changes his mind.

The high draft picks if they bottom out will help jumpstart a rebuild. If Rodgers comes back they can look forward to a playoff run. Either of those two options are probably better than a mediocre season.
 

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This is probably a lost season or even two without Rodgers anyway, so Green Bay might as well wait it out and hope he changes his mind.

The high draft picks if they bottom out will help jumpstart a rebuild. If Rodgers comes back they can look forward to a playoff run. Either of those two options are probably better than a mediocre season.
I see it the other way. If its a lose season either way, get the draft picks. Rebuild even quicker.
 

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If he really wants to play, there is still a chance he plays for them. That is the preferable option. He's not a free agent until 2024. Wait it out and see what happens this year. They can still trade him later.
 

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Its pretty clear to me, he wants to play elsewhere.

Maybe Shailene wants him closer to her, maybe he just doesn't want to waste his last years on a team he doesn't feel is building out towards a title.

Either way, the Packers contributed to this by drafting Love. I think their best option now is deal Rodgers to get the assets to put around him. Or let Rodgers possibly retire and get nothing.
The team isn't in shambles, though. Rodgers is a weird dude. They have made the NFC Championship game the last two seasons. And Rodgers, the man in his own head, wasn't able to get it done.

He's acting like he's on the Jets or the Jags. It's insane.
 

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Jets and Jags have better head coaching and probably don’t kick a field goal with little time left down 8
 

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The team isn't in shambles, though. Rodgers is a weird dude. They have made the NFC Championship game the last two seasons. And Rodgers, the man in his own head, wasn't able to get it done.

He's acting like he's on the Jets or the Jags. It's insane.
He was also trending downward and definitely seemed to be in decline when the team chose to draft Love. Obviously, he had an incredible bounce back this season, but I think that drafting a QB at that point was totally defensible.
If I'm the Packers, I call his bluff. If he wants to retire, then retire. Because I don't think he has any real interest in retiring.
 
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Rodgers is a baby. I hope he retires and we never see him again.
 

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How did they treat him badly again? By planning for a future without him, which is inevitable? That’s the deal in the NFL and he knows that. If this is all about that, then yes he’s being a baby.
 

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Rodgers certainly wasn't mistreated. He willingly signed a long term contract to play for the Packers. Cannot blame the Packers for drafting his eventual replacement, given his age.

Don't blame him for holding out and threatening to retire either. But if he ends up forced into retirement, it's 100% on him.
 

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You could argue they mistreated him by wasting his prime years on a moron like McCarthy.
This. And my understanding is that this rift with the front office has been years in the making, it’s not just about Jordan Love. They’ve been inept at giving him good coaches, terrible at communicating with him, and generally unnecessarily antagonized their relationship. Part of that is it seems to me the front office often treated him as just another player instead of a team leader with input (not actual decision making power, just input). Which is their prerogative, but then they shouldn’t be surprised that he was unhappy.
 

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Rodgers continues to get a pass for constantly coming up short in the playoffs as it always is someone else's fault, despite the fact that he has pretty consistently had a good O-Line, good RBs, and decent WRs. Now he is going to take his ball and go home because he requested a trade (on draft night, so the team had to scramble to find a decent trade if they even wanted to trade him) and doesn't want to play for a team that is DEFINITELY a title contender if he plays? Where does he think he's going to go at this point that will be better? He isn't stuck on the Jaguars.
 

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Rodgers continues to get a pass for constantly coming up short in the playoffs as it always is someone else's fault, despite the fact that he has pretty consistently had a good O-Line, good RBs, and decent WRs. Now he is going to take his ball and go home because he requested a trade (on draft night, so the team had to scramble to find a decent trade if they even wanted to trade him) and doesn't want to play for a team that is DEFINITELY a title contender if he plays? Where does he think he's going to go at this point that will be better? He isn't stuck on the Jaguars.
I guess my perspective is that even if all of this were true, I still don’t have a problem with his actions here. (Edit: for the record, I do think that Rodgers is an odd guy and overly sensitive to perceived slights.)

The NFL is a business where every relationship is purely transactional. I’m always confused by fans accepting (even celebrating) that fact when clubs treat players like dirt, but venting their spleen when a player tries to use leverage to get something.
 
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I guess my perspective is that even if all of this were true, I still don’t have a problem with his actions here.

The NFL is a business where every relationship is purely transactional. I’m always confused by fans accepting (even celebrating) that fact when clubs treat players like dirt, but venting their spleen when a player tries to use leverage to get something.
It's not nearly as black and white as you describe it. NFL clubs basically treat all players poorly, with the notable exception being superstar QBs. I have zero sympathy for Rodgers, he isn't a RB with a ticking clock on a chance to make money before his body breaks down.
 

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This. And my understanding is that this rift with the front office has been years in the making, it’s not just about Jordan Love. They’ve been inept at giving him good coaches, terrible at communicating with him, and generally unnecessarily antagonized their relationship. Part of that is it seems to me the front office often treated him as just another player instead of a team leader with input (not actual decision making power, just input). Which is their prerogative, but then they shouldn’t be surprised that he was unhappy.
Isn't this almost exactly how BB dealt with Brady for many years, to much acclaim? I don't begrudge Rodgers for trying to leverage a better or different situation for himself, nor do I begrudge the Packers for trying to plan for life without him by drafting Love. But the notion that he has been wronged, or mistreated by them seems like a reach to me. And him promoting that narrative, either overtly or through selective back channel comments to media members, does strike me as a bit diva-ish. If that's what he is doing. I do recognize these NFL insider tweets, including Schefter's, should be taken with a grain of salt.
 

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The NFL is a business where every relationship is purely transactional. I’m always confused by fans accepting (even celebrating) that fact when clubs treat players like dirt, but venting their spleen when a player tries to use leverage to get something.
Are you? I (and most fans) root for Laundry. If a Players hissy is going to doom/impede my team for 3-4 years (Kyrie for instance...even though thats the NBA) then yea I am a bit pissed off at them.
While "treated like dirt" is arguable. I tend to think paying someone 10s if not hundreds of millions (in Rodgers case at least) is being treated relatively well. And Ok on hindsight the Packers probably do regret their coaching choices. But its a pretty far stretch to insinuate that they somehow did it to screw over Rodgers. Or that that particular failure is a personal slight to Rodgers that deserves some kind of atonement. When they made the decision they where trying to do what was best for the team. Failing miserably doesnt make them bad guys, only bad GMs/Owners. And isnt there a new regime in GB? So now we want to hold a new management team accountable to the player for what the old management team did?

As we have talked about in regards to Gilly, If Rodgers wants to use whatever leverage he can generate to leave then thats his right. But it doesnt make him right.

The knee jerk reaction around here that Owners are bad the Poor players are somehow forced to sacrifice thier bodies on the NFL altar is a bit unfair. They agree to Contracts that pay Huge sums knowing that that could get Hurt that other important players on thier team could get hurt or otherwise be unavailable, that Management could suck or make a mistake, On and on the list goes. Bet lets not act like the players are poor innocents in all this and the owners are pure evil.