Sean Payton is retiring

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Does he owe the Saints for Hill’s contract? Because no other coach will want that.
 

Gash Prex

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Just give them enough time to deal with the egregious salary cap problem he left them with, deal with being a terrible football for a few years, get a top draft pick, and ride back in like a hero.
 

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Take a year off. Wait until Jerry fires McCarthy and he can ride into Dallas as the savior.
 

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I don't understand how these things work but is there a way he ends up in Dallas or NYG immediately, or does he have to sit out a year?
 

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I don't understand how these things work but is there a way he ends up in Dallas or NYG immediately, or does he have to sit out a year?
I am not intimately familiar with the terms of the coach contracts, but it would surprise me if the Saints didn’t continue to hold his rights for the remaining three years. Ie, another team would have to trade for him.

When a guy wants to go to coach another club, the trade generally happens without much conflict. Belichick’s Jets resignation/Pats pursuit going to litigation isn’t common from my recollection.
 

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Maybe Hill can QB-Coach. Leaving with Brees last year made a bit more sense in hindsight.
 

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Take a year off. Wait until Jerry fires McCarthy and he can ride into Dallas as the savior.
Yup here.
Jones has a conversation with him. Tells him to work for NBC/Fox/CBS/ABC for a year and if Mccarghy doesn't win, it's his.
 

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Payton is a smart dude. Amazon or Fox are going to throw him so much money he will need to build a vault into his house.

Once dudes get a taste of that TV money and realize they make way more money for doing way less work, they tend to not go back to the grind of coaching.

In two or three years there’ll be rumors of him returning to coaching, they’ll renew his contract for a fat stack, and he’ll carry on cashing those checks.
 

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Payton is a smart dude. Amazon or Fox are going to throw him so much money he will need to build a vault into his house.

Once dudes get a taste of that TV money and realize they make way more money for doing way less work, they tend to not go back to the grind of coaching.

In two or three years there’ll be rumors of him returning to coaching, they’ll renew his contract for a fat stack, and he’ll carry on cashing those checks.
True ... unless he sucks at broadcasting.
 

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Payton is a smart dude. Amazon or Fox are going to throw him so much money he will need to build a vault into his house.

Once dudes get a taste of that TV money and realize they make way more money for doing way less work, they tend to not go back to the grind of coaching.

In two or three years there’ll be rumors of him returning to coaching, they’ll renew his contract for a fat stack, and he’ll carry on cashing those checks.
Definitely a possibility. When Cowher and Dungy retired I would have bet money that at least one would be back out of the studio coaching a team within 2-3 years... and here they are 15 years later happily cashing checks from the studio.

That said, I would have bet the house that Gruden would stay in broadcasting/Corona endorsement world, giving motivational speeches and hosting ESPN draft shows... and then we all know how that turned out.

My money is on Payton coaching the Cowboys in 2023 (if not before) but I don't think it's a slam dunk.
 

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QB/coach is IMO the most important relationship in pro sports. I can't see him going to Carolina.
No I’m not saying he’s going to Carolina. Just saying that him (and Brady) “retiring” is good for Carolina.
 

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I think Payton is so much better as a HC than McCarthy is, and Dallas has a ton of talent, so if he ends up there, that team is going to be awesome.
 

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Josh leaves for Las Vegas.
Payton sits out a few years on TV.
Passes on Jerry and the Cowboys because Jerry is Jerry
and then becomes the heir to Belichick when he retires in a few years.
 

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Josh leaves for Las Vegas.
Payton sits out a few years on TV.
Passes on Jerry and the Cowboys because Jerry is Jerry
and then becomes the heir to Belichick when he retires in a few years.
Nah, if you're the coach who brings a Super Bowl trophy back to Dallas, it's like the golden ticket
 

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How's this for a wacky story, per PFT:

The year was 2019. The month, January. The Cowboys had won 10 of 16 games, along with a wild-card contest against the Seahawks. They lost to the Rams in the divisional round, 30-22. Cowboys owner Jerry Jones contemplated an upgrade from coach Jason Garrett to Sean Payton. Jones wanted to pull the trigger. Payton did, too.

Things unfolded quickly. The Saints had played in the NFC Championship, losing to the Rams on January 20. That week, Jones quietly made his move.

It was a delicate situation, for various reasons. First, the Cowboys had a coach. Jones wouldn’t have fired Garrett unless he knew he could have gotten Payton. Second, league rules (specifically, the Rooney Rule) require a diverse and inclusive search. Third, Jones had to ultimately know that, after going through the motions of a search, he’d be able to get Payton.

So a deal was worked out, behind the scenes. The Saints would have allowed the Cowboys to hire Payton. The Cowboys would have compensated the Saints for the rights to Payton’s contract. And Payton would have signed a new contract with the Cowboys.

It was ready to go. It was happening. It was locked, and it was loaded. Then came Monday, January 28. On that day, New Orleans Pelicans forward Anthony Davis announced he would not sign another contract with the team, and he requested a trade. (In July, the Pelicans traded him to the Lakers.)

Gayle Benson owns both the Pelicans and the Saints. Saints G.M. Mickey Loomis was, as of January 2019, the executive vice president of basketball operations with the Pelicans. Once Davis made clear his intention to leave New Orleans, Loomis told Payton that Loomis couldn’t be the common thread between a pair of such high-profile Louisiana departures.

That ended it, just like that. The Saints were no longer interested in essentially trading Payton to the Cowboys. In September, Payton signed a new contract. That deal has three years left on it.
 

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Signing Hill and then retiring is basically leaving a salary cap upper decker for the organization that you called home for a decade+.
 

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If trading is the way out for the Saints, who do they match up with? There are a lot of pretty ugly contracts on the books there.
 

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Yeah, the Cameron Jordan contract is the only significant one that looks attractive to me and that doesn't save much money for the Saints unless they wait until post Jun 1. It isn't very helpful for getting under the cap before the new league year.
 

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Davenport seems like a potential trade target. Last year of contract and would save 8.5M. Cutting/trading Roby saves them $9.5M. Lattimore, Ramzyk and a few others can be restructured fairly easily. Still long way to go and will likely cause them to eat into future cap space.