Jeff Demps 40 time was "only" a 4.26. If he ran the 100 (I forget his sprinting event, but I am guessing it was the 100), then the second gear is what probably set him apart.
2022 NFL Draft Game Thread-Day 2
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Because historical he has been one of the better drafters in the league, even including a few down years in the recent past...you know the guy who built a 20 year dynasty.
The point wasn’t whether or not Bill cares about the big board. It was whether or not it was a good pick.
You're half right so far.
As far as who they picked once they moved up.......................
I get that point but saying “in bill we trust” implies he’s usually right. My point is that he’s not. Maybe he’s an average drafter, but this notion that you can’t question the guy is fucking absurd. If he’s beyond criticism, why have we gotten a tiny amount of impact players over a very long period?
It’s ALOT easier to be a great gm when Tom Brady is your qb and makes less than he should. Pats won a ton of games by having discipline guys who don’t lose the game with dumb mistakes, thus relying on Brady to do his thing. Plenty of teams have done a better job of finding stud blue chip guys in the draft
The point wasn’t whether or not Bill cares about the big board. It was whether or not it was a good pick.
Wait, I know this one...
What is "other than that, how was the play Mrs. Lincoln?"
I assumed there’s a value chart similar to what they use when trading draft picks
Going to be another tough retrospective if we got the wrong receiver again amidst a bunch of other WR picks.
Not that much, do we need to list all the great players he has drafted or signed as udfas? All while picking in the mid to late rounds each year.
It sure is amazing how every other great QB did not lead to a 20 year dynasty but it's now all because of Brady to ran and caught the football, blocked and played defense by himself.
Bad? How the fuck do we know? Surprising maybe. Interesting maybe. This is like when you root for a movie to win the Oscar because it's the only one you went to see.
the guy’s a legend - the track record is absurd
but is he the best gm NOW for this team?
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New #Patriots WR Tyquan Thornton was highest drafted
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player since 2012. And from multiple sources, it sounds like trading up for Thornton was necessary for NE. At least one team had him as their top WR on the board today. Notable that two WRs went immediately after.
I have a buddy, Matt St. Jean, who I watch a lot of tape with watching Thornton now. He is really liking him so far.
New #Patriots WR Tyquan Thornton was highest drafted
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player since 2012. And from multiple sources, it sounds like trading up for Thornton was necessary for NE. At least one team had him as their top WR on the board today. Notable that two WRs went immediately after.
I have a buddy, Matt St. Jean, who I watch a lot of tape with watching Thornton now. He is really liking him so far.
Pickens, Pierce and Moore all right after Thornton. I really don’t want to be talking about why we didn’t take those guys in 2 years.
I think it’s because there’s an inherent uncertainty. It’s not like he’s saying 2+2=5, and people are shrugging and saying IBWT. It’s that nobody has any idea how these guys are going to perform, so at the moment might as well trust that BB has better information than we do.
On a side note, I hate Goodell. What a dick.
I love Brady like everyone here of course but let’s not pretend he was the GOAT his first five years. Honestly my non Pats fan friends use this talking point all the time. It was all BRADY, Riboflav!
They definitely needed a WR, they have two guys at the position under contract for 2024, Bourne and Parker unless you think they are picking up Harry's fifth-year option for around $12 million and that Ty Montgomery is a WR.
Bill might suck at drafting or he might but the best but basing your opinion on his drafting based on what the talking heads say on draft day about who he picked and at what spot is stupid. Nobody knows, it’s a giant guessing game.
I kinda feel like he deserves maybe a little rope to prove he isn't. He did just have probably the best draft of any team last year.
So you don't like two picks on draft day, not a reason to replace him in my mind.
Eh, I don't think he's perfect and beyond criticism, but I know for a fact that there is no other person I would want choosing players for the team that I follow and root for. So I accept that he will make some good picks and some bad picks but I 100% trust that he is making what he thinks is the best decision for the team based on decades of football experience and more Super Bowl wins than I could ever imagine.
also.... a "tiny amount of impact players" is kind of ridiculous IMO. How come every year the Pats are losing their home-grown players to big contracts from other teams?
Helpful to read, SMU. Curious to see whether Matt's tape review bears out fast (well that seems clear), good route runner, and good hands. Fingers crossed.
I mean Brady did have a lot to do with it. He is the greatest QB of all-time and routinely took contracts under market value. I mean BB is the greatest coach ever, but it doesn't make sense to minimize what Brady did either.
Borges used this line for BB. Someday he’ll be right and so will you. Congratulations.
I mean the dude lost the GOAT and got a good qb and got back to the playoffs after one weird year. But hey he hasn’t won a SB since Brady!!
He's nailed dozens of great players over the years, many of whom no one had ever heard of at the time they were picked, so not that much
He literally won executive of the year like a month ago
Brady led a great SB winning drive his first year starting. Led the league in TD passes his 2nd year starting. He was not the GOAT, but was already a really really good QB. And BB should get all the credit for going with him over Bledsoe - that decision could not have been easy.
Skyy Moore looks like a ten year pro. Thornton looks like he’ll run real fast, miss his routes and get over powered by bump and run coverage.
Jeremiah didn't have him in the top 150, but Arif (as SMU mentioned) has him at 155 and, FWIW, he's 117 on the ESPN Big Board.
No one is minimizing what Brady did, but saying BB is not a good drafter because he had Brady is stupid.
I love how we’ve now reduced the entire run of Patriots success to “Tom was awesome, was paid nothing and the other guys just didn’t make mistakes.”
Aw I hate to see people digging him, he said it was the most exciting thing to happen to him in forever-give him his few moments in the sun one last time
I’m not implying he should be canned - even if he should, it’s not politically palatable for Kraft to do it. He’s earned the right to make the picks…but I DO worry that he’s not making the right picks overall for the last ten years
I do think having Brady made gm a very very different job