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ManicCompression

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I think he wants the PGA Tour to mandate that the star players have to play well every week. I mean, what other sort of plan could the Tour possibly have that could make a difference? (Cloning Tiger?)
Haven't they done this by starting the Charlie Woods hype train 8 years ahead of time? I kid... kinda.
 
It may not have been good golf but it was still exciting.
Actually, it was some bad golf followed by some incredibly good golf, which is precisely why it was so entertaining. Terrible tee shots by both players on the 2nd and 3rd playoff holes, and yet both guys found ways to make par on the former, and Zalatoris got up and down from the DZ for bogey on the latter. I don't give a damn whether pro golf has mass market appeal; I'd rather watch that sort of playoff golf than see Tiger - or anyone else - demolish a field by 7 shots for a drama-free win.

Incidentally, Zalatoris staying above ground on the latter was actually such a huge slice of fortune, even though he realistically had no shot from there, because he got to see Straka play his 3rd and 4th shots before having to choose whether to go back to the DZ. He had a few choice pieces of luck down the stretch - the tee shot on 16 in regulation in particular - but that's often what someone needs to get over the hump and finally win that first tournament. (Nice to get his name crossed off of the "Best Player Not to Win on Tour" list.)
 

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Presidents Cup has never seemed to have the juice of the Ryder Cup ... but a PGA vs LIV format would be cutthroat
 

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Presidents Cup has never seemed to have the juice of the Ryder Cup ... but a PGA vs LIV format would be cutthroat
Yeah, I think the Ryder Cup has all the history and emotion, and they play really hard against each other. But the PGA Tour guys are starting to actively dislike the LIV guys and have real animosity towards them. A PGA vs. LIV matchup would be absolutely intense. Would make for great theater.
 

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I think the other golfers were pretty frosty with him. And he's probably figuring it's not worth it because of the whole stack of cash thing.
This is what I'm thinking. Minor injury/discomfort he might have otherwise played through but why bother given how chippy the PGA Tour players will be all week. Screw it, just home and be rich.
 

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I don’t think the players were chippy. The scheffler thing was a funny coincidence.


The ruling that cost him two strokes while he was in the top 5 heading into Sunday that occurred over 15 hours after his round was done however definitely contributed.
 

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Yeah, I think the Ryder Cup has all the history and emotion, and they play really hard against each other. But the PGA Tour guys are starting to actively dislike the LIV guys and have real animosity towards them. A PGA vs. LIV matchup would be absolutely intense. Would make for great theater.
It might be intense at the start, but it wouldn't last long because it would be a blowout if all the best PGA Tour players play. LIV has Cam Smith and Dustin Johnson. Whose their 3rd best player? Taylor Gooch? A bunch more top players would have to jump ship to make it competitive.
 

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So fucking stupid.
First of all, as a general principle, unless you're accused of criminal behavior or really horrid conduct for which damages are assumed, it's pretty hard to prove you've been damaged when you get paid a fucktillion dollars just to show up a few times.

As particular to Reed, if he really wants to put his "reputation" on trial -- as he must to prove that opinion of him was lowered -- I want to cross examine this honest family man.
 

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Will Zalatoris hurt himself and now the coverage is basically him getting a chiropractor adjustment. It's been like 10 minutes of just Will getting stretched or moved around.

No golf. Just chiro cam.
 

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If you like watching championship golf just leave it on the Golf Channel after they’re done with their BMW coverage. They go to the US Amateur and it’s the semis and there Is no commercials. I’ve been watching their coverage the last few weeks of Junior at Brandon Dunes, the Women’s Amateur at Chambers Bay and this week at Ridgewood with no commercials at all.
 

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If you like watching championship golf just leave it on the Golf Channel after they’re done with their BMW coverage. They go to the US Amateur and it’s the semis and there Is no commercials. I’ve been watching their coverage the last few weeks of Junior at Brandon Dunes, the Women’s Amateur at Chambers Bay and this week at Ridgewood with no commercials at all. At a minimum dvr it and watch it tonight.
 

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Wow. Giving up non-profit status could make them lose some of the “High road” that they have vs. the LIV
Bizarre take. They’ll pay taxes and I guess be able to monetize in some new ways or something. It’s not like they’re sending 90% of income into cancer research. It’s a business taking advantage of non-profit status at the moment. Meanwhile the LIV tour is still just a reputation laundering exercise.

I also don’t think a critical mass of fans care at all about the Saudis or high roads or whatever, just to avoid doubt. These are golf fans. Half probably wish they were the Saudis.
 
Why? I really don't have a problem with no-cut tournaments as long as they're restricted to elite players.
No-cut tournaments remove any sense of jeopardy on Thursday and Friday. They say, "Here - we don't care how badly you play; take some money anyway." The very nature of individual sports like golf and tennis is that you have to perform to earn your living. I don't have a problem with the proposed idea of everyone on Tour getting $500,000 at the start of the season to cover professional and personal expenses and having earnings taken against that total until you cover it. But golf has never been a sport - unlike many others - where an elite player can coast after reaching a certain level of performance and signing a big contract. This is exactly the dynamic LIV has introduced, and even if it wasn't financed by horrible people (and hadn't signed so many horrible people to play in it), that dynamic would still suck.

Also...one of the key levers that the PGA Tour has over LIV at the moment is that no-cut events are frowned upon by the OWGR Police. Your Tour can get away with having a few, but there are several main reasons that LIV events aren't going to start earning OWGR points any time soon, and one of them is the lack of a cut in their events. (The others being that they're played over three rounds instead of four, and that they're not integrated into a vertical structure of feeder/developmental Tours, although their incorporation/buyout of the Asian Tour seems to be helping on this latter score.) I don't know how many golfers have to be cut for this to matter, but if you cut the bottom 20, or the bottom 15, or even the bottom 10 from a 60-man field after two rounds, that would still improve the proposed product to me. If you're playing so badly that you're below the 20th or 30th percentile of your peers in any given week, I don't want to watch you, and you don't deserved to be watched, no matter what your name is or how big your reputation is.
 

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Long way to go but looking like a 3-horse race at the BMW. Cantlay, X, Stallings. Scheffler and Scott off to sluggish starts.

Good afternoon of golf between this and the AM final.
 
I just saw this. Weiskopf was a very good golfer who could and probably should have won more than the one major he won; a very competent golf course architect whose collaboration with Jay Morrish you could say was the prototype of what Coore and Crenshaw eventually became; and a pretty poor commentator who nevertheless had one of the best lines of golf commentary I've ever heard, when Jim Nantz asked him what was going through Jack Nicklaus' mind as he stood on the 16th tee at the final round of the 1986 Masters: "If I knew the way he thought, I would've won this tournament."