Wilson has an additional $37mm that becomes guaranteed if he can’t pass a physical by early March.
Right, I read this as well. They are giving up on the playoffs this year on the off chance that the guy who played at least 15 games in 12 straight seasons can't pass a physical next March.
Thanks! So, yes, acquiring team pays the salary, and the teams can negotiate who pays the bonus. Is Wilson truly toast? Superficially his stats don't look too bad but I haven't watched the dude play.
According to the NFL, DEN has an 8% chance to make the playoffs. To win the division, DEN needs to win both & KC needs to lose both (to CIN & LAC).
they find a way but unless the whole team hated him and re-do their deads i dont see how any high pirce players will be back
Would Bill Belichick ever bench his best QB to potentially save money with an 8% chance at the playoffs? I actually can't believe anyone is defending this.
In a do over? As a Jets fan I would ultimately take a declining 35yo Rus with a fluffed up 2023 TD total and questionable underlying metrics over a declining 40yo Rodgers with a fluffed up 2022 TD total and questionable underlying metrics. Without even a hint of hesitation too once you factor in all surrounding concessions you won't have to make with Rus that you made with Rodgers. That ship has long sailed though.
I didn't. The "reasonable" scenario is the division - 2 DEN wins, 2 KC losses. Type in "win the #7 seed" and then come back to me. Here's what I got - week 17, KC over CIN, LV over IND, SEA over PIT, NE over BUF, TEN over HOU & week 18, MIA over BUF, BAL over PIT, LAC over KC, JAX over TEN (an 11-game parlay, including 2 DEN wins)
Considering how frequently teammates shit on Wilson and how Sean Payton had to tell him how to act like an actual human when he was hired, I'm not sure anyone is rushing to Russ's defense. If anything, I could see this move being really popular in the locker room, for both the offense and defense.
I tend to think that context stuff has been greatly overblown in a mostly media driven narrative.
This is all fair, but I don't think it's just a media narrative. Richard Sherman couldn't wait to rip on Russell Wilson once he got on TV - it just feels like there's real animosity with the guy for being a fake. It's kind of the opposite of the Aaron Rodgers thing where we presume that his teammates dislike him because we dislike him, but then you see him on Hard Knocks and they all love the guy because he's one of them (whether we believe that act or not is another story altogether).
Tell you what:
all i did in the playoff was week 17 ne wins + den wins week 18 den wins + mia wins den is in yeah the div is the better chioce
i wouild staple jeudy with him that wouild be a good idea to pair jerdy with him but denver does not have a round 2 pick
DEN (7-8) is a game behind PIT, CIN, JAX, IND and HOU (all 8-7) and tied with LV with two games to go. If DEN doesn't win the division, it has to beat out five of those six teams for the last playoff spot. Any playoff scenario that doesn't deal with any of these teams is not a serious one.
News for the handful out there that might have believed Payton's nonsense about why he made the switch.
They didn't renegotiate the clause, tho. They asked to, Russ said no, and now Denver is moving on.
I think Russ seems like a diva shithead based on everything I read last year -- but I do agree this kind of sucks. Why do this midseason instead of before the year begins when he's just come off the worst year of his career?
This sounds like the spin of a PR campaign. And whaddya know, Russ himself confirms that the Broncos basically blackmailed him to change his contract, threatening the benching if he didn't, and then following through:
You’re mixing up two different ideas between my post and yours: whether what the Broncos are doing is ethical (yours) and whether players on the Broncos care (mine). I don’t know if what the Broncos doing is ethical - it comes off as unseemly, but OTOH, Russ isn’t living up to his huge contract and they’re using whatever leverage they have to lower their risk. That’s not being “blackmailed.” Is it blackmailing when players hold out? It’s the same threat.
I have no special information and thus no strong opinion on what the Broncos players think of Wilson.
You tried to “AHA” me with the Russ interview, even though it didn’t have anything to do with the post you quoted. I’m not twisting myself into knots over anything - I just am not sure if Russ’ teammates give a shit about his labor struggle considering that Russ’ teammates usually think he’s an asshole.
I’m guessing he and his agent will be surprised at how mild the interest will be.
I was jumping off from your post, not rebutting it. I'm adding context to those rumors you're hearing, because it sure seems plausible that they're a leg of the pressure campaign on Wilson. I'll take responsibility for that not being clear enough initially.
If Russ weren't better, they wouldn't have to threaten a benching, they'd just do it because he'd have earned it. He's started all 15 games this season, his last few games' TD/INT ratios have been 2/1, 1/0, 2/0... his TDs, INTs, ANY/A, passer rating, have all been much better than last year and most of them comparable to when he was a pro bowler in 2021 (all while massively dialing down his air yards per attempt, this is not luck / YAC driven). Let's not act like he's Mac Jones out there, in your rush to fire him out of a cannon.
This is insane. What a bunch of overwrought drivel.
It's the principle of the thing, man. He's a player the team signed a contract with, they made a bargain taking into account all their risk factors and having done so, they want to undo it to their benefit using bullshit forms of leverage. It seems like the union very nearly had a grievance over it, and rightly so. It doesn't matter how much he's made, if they'll do that to Russell Wilson they'll do it to a dozen marginal players on the roster where we'll never hear about it because they meekly submit to being treated like shit (while getting CTE, and then being discarded like christmas present packaging once they've had their health wrung out of them for the team's profit). I'm not shedding tears for Russell Wilson, who sporting-wise I personally hope fails because I've rooted against him for a decade. I'm thinking about this being another log on the fire of the NFL being incredibly shitty to their players, a plantation mentality. If you don't like the terms you've bargained for, you and your billion-dollar money-printing machine, then bargain better next time. There are other ways to solve that problem in the meantime, besides treating the performance of the team as some minor matter, a chip to be used when it might suit the budgetary planning.
They asked Russ to change the contract language. He said no. They kept playing Russ. Now that Denver is eliminated with two games left, they are making sure they won't be stuck paying an injury guarantee for a guy they don't want next year.
