What is next for BB?

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Getting passed over by Raheem Morris, after multiple interviews and whispers of being the favorite, is just an awful look for Bill. The Falcons are an obvious clown show, of course, but Belichick's agent should have made sure that Bill was only going to take interviews with teams that had already agreed in principle with his mode of operation should he be hired. It's obvious now that the Falcons never had any intention of hiring him once Harbaugh came off the board.

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I kind of feel like if he doesn’t coach again and have success, he won’t be. Which is beyond ridiculous but I listen to lots of sports talk and the growing drumbeat of “he never had succes without Brady NEVER but Brady had success without him” I just feel like will take over the narrative with Bill.
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No chance - his HOF-worthy work as DC of the Giants prior to joining the Patriots assures Belichick's place on the Mount Rushmore of NFL coaching.
 
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Bill needed the Cowboys job, or some other team were the groceries are already bought, and to go in as a coach only. Final say on roster but not draft, spending, etc..

Him not getting a job sort of validates the Pats decision to walk away.
 
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If I ran CBS or FOX or NBC, I would write a check for all the dollars to hire BB as lead analyst. He spent his entire career keeping his thoughts to himself so as not to give other teams any bulletin board material. Now that he doesn't have to worry about that any more, I want to know what he really thinks and I would never miss a minute of any pregame or halftime panel that featured him telling us his true feelings.
 
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Maybe Tom Landry is a comp? It ended pretty poorly for him in Dallas.(7-9,7-8,3-13). It hasnt affected his historical standing. Except among morons.
BB could pass Shula, or could have done so already, and the same losers will find a negative spin, especially if there's no SB involved. BB would say fuck 'em. As do I.
I see the point that getting passed over now "looks bad" or somesuch. But BB has earned the right to take the job the way *he* wants it. Does anyone think he didnt know the risks there?

Much like "winning the offseason," lets see how it looks around 11/15/24 for the Falcons, Cowboys and LAC. Or Patriots.
 
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JimD said:
Getting passed over by Raheem Morris, after multiple interviews and whispers of being the favorite, is just an awful look for Bill.
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I don’t think this is true at all. The Falcons have several front office people who didn’t want to lose their jobs and convinced Blank to not give Belichick total control. This was a job preservation pick for Fontenot and McKay.
 
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BB does not seem like he would ever want to join the media. I guess anything is possible if the incentives are right but he clearly hated the narrative shit that media thrives on and the media doesn't really want to do more in depth analysis segments, do they?
 
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What does the CEO do if the GM and coach both don’t report to him? Is he in charge or the janitors?
 
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This is intersting in that it suggests there's some complicated stuff behind the scenes as this was going on with BB. Not enough clear reporting to know in which direction, though. Certainly ending up with Raheem Morris instead of BB is a radically different expectation in terms of the coach's independence. And quite possible some combination of Fontenot and Blank wanted control, with implications for whatever discussion was going on with BB.

Also, while many of us assume Falcons said no to BB we also should consdier possibility that went the other way - he decided he doesn't trust the FO/ownership structure enough to make it his final stop. That seems more probable today than it did 24 hours ago, right?
 
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What does the CEO do if the GM and coach both don’t report to him? Is he in charge or the janitors?
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He's running the 'business' of the team, probably some/all of ops, and perhaps the league interface....but not the 'football' stuff is my guess.
 
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RedOctober3829 said:
I think Bill is done as a coach if he has to sit out this year. If nobody is hiring him now, why would they a year from now?
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Because the Cowboys will flame out in playoffs next year and McCarthy's contract is up.
 
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Red Right Ankle said:
BB does not seem like he would ever want to join the media. I guess anything is possible if the incentives are right but he clearly hated the narrative shit that media thrives on and the media doesn't really want to do more in depth analysis segments, do they?
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IIRC, wasn't he on some network's pregame panel at some point after the Patriots were out one year?
 
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Mooch said:
I don’t think this is true at all. The Falcons have several front office people who didn’t want to lose their jobs and convinced Blank to not give Belichick total control. This was a job preservation pick for Fontenot and McKay.
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Word.

I've gone on job interviews where I'm perfectly qualified for the job and hit it off great with the hiring manager but there's some numbnuts who I meet on the way out that has the boss's ear and is worried about his fiefdom. I can see as soon as I meet the self-preserving idiot that I'm not going to get a call on that one now. Anyone who isn't hired by a dysfunctional org is lucky that they found out before they took the job. Folks in the business know that Atlanta runs a sloppy shop.
 
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joe dokes said:
IIRC, wasn't he on some network's pregame panel at some point after the Patriots were out one year?
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Google indicates he was on a pre-game panel in 2006 for the Super Bowl and then he was on College Gameday in 2023 for an Army-Navy game. So, a LONG time (and a lot of antagonism between him and the media) ago and once last year for a special college game.
 
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Imagine BB having to fake laugh at Jason Garrett's 'analysis'. He'd just sit there stone faced where the seasoned pros guffaw like Garrett is peak Bill Burr. I don't see him as a fit in the media at all.
 
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Imagine BB having to fake laugh at Jason Garrett's 'analysis'. He'd just sit there stone faced where the seasoned pros guffaw like Garrett is peak Bill Burr. I don't see him as a fit in the media at all.
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Someone on twitter said we need a Brady/BB booth for a game.
 
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BB can be incredibly engaging and even funny. The in-season press conference/radio spot persona has always been an act. I don't see him competing for the hottest take on a studio show, but his insight during a game would be fascinating.
 
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I think being in a different media market would be an opportunity for BB to adjust his interactions with the media. He's been "BB" for so long that if he had changed his ways here with the local media, it may have looked forced a bit and, I could envision, might even be criticized. I'm not saying he would come out all giggles in another city, but more along the lines of being slightly more engaging and less dour. He has shown that ability at times in New England under certain circumstances, so it's not like it would be totally out of character.

edit: in-line with hube's comment above....
 
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hube said:
BB can be incredibly engaging and even funny. The in-season press conference/radio spot persona has always been an act. I don't see him competing for the hottest take on a studio show, but his insight during a game would be fascinating.
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Bill's Mona Lisa Vito usage in the "it was cold so the footballs' psi's were a little down”was one of the all time greats. His wry humor might go over the heads of a lot of people though.
 
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Red Right Ankle said:
BB does not seem like he would ever want to join the media. I guess anything is possible if the incentives are right but he clearly hated the narrative shit that media thrives on and the media doesn't really want to do more in depth analysis segments, do they?
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He's been great the few times he's been in studio. I couldn't swear he did that during the playoffs last year but my brain is telling me that. I know I've seen him in that role before. Couldn't find anything in a quick search about that, but I found these:

The Hoodie in the Booth? Bill Belichick’s TV Analyst Prospects Grow

Bill Belichick Nominated for Sports Emmy for Work as Studio Analyst on NFL 100
 
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Um ok

View: https://twitter.com/adamschefter/status/1750700998006394924?s=46
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My pure speculation is that BB decided he didn't want the job due to McKay being a piss ant, so they take Morris instead. Blank is pissed and demotes McKey to run Taylor Swift concerts and the Five Stripes. And of course the janitors.
At this point I think Bill does some free-lance analyst work next year and all of the teams with new coaches that tank pursue him for 2025.
If Bill and Brady worked in the booth together who would do the play-by-play? Can't see either of them
 
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Red Right Ankle said:
BB does not seem like he would ever want to join the media. I guess anything is possible if the incentives are right but he clearly hated the narrative shit that media thrives on and the media doesn't really want to do more in depth analysis segments, do they?
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He hated talking to the media while he was a coach, because there's no way to honestly answer most media questions without hurting your own team and/or helping your future opponents. If he becomes a member of the media, there'd be no reason to hold back any opinions, which would be fascinating. He'd be the best TV analyst since John Madden.
 
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My pure speculation is that BB decided he didn't want the job due to McKay being a piss ant, so they take Morris instead. Blank is pissed and demotes McKey to run Taylor Swift concerts and the Five Stripes. And of course the janitors.
At this point I think Bill does some free-lance analyst work next year and all of the teams with new coaches that tank pursue him for 2025.
If Bill and Brady worked in the booth together who would do the play-by-play? Can't see either of them
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This can't happen, but Al Michaels in that booth would be awesome.

I think it's more likely Bill does some longer form segments for NFL Network or something. He's not going to be as good if he has to operate within the time constraints of these pregame, halftime studio shows.

Until he announces his retirement for good, I wouldn't expe him to divulge much info on his own thinking or "what he would do", but there's plenty of analysis he can offer short of that.
 
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This can't happen, but Al Michaels in that booth would be awesome.

I think it's more likely Bill does some longer form segments for NFL Network or something. He's not going to be as good if he has to operate within the time constraints of these pregame, halftime studio shows.

Until he announces his retirement for good, I wouldn't expe him to divulge much info on his own thinking or "what he would do", but there's plenty of analysis he can offer short of that.
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Id love to see him do segments of “Belichick Breakdowns” on NFL Network. Would never happen but listening to him break down key plays of the week would be great entertainment
 
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RedOctober3829 said:
By all accounts, he doesn't want to deal with big-market media anymore. While I think he'd work well with Jerry, I don't think going to Dallas is going to be in the cards for him.
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If he's trying to really thread the needle, then folks shouldn't be surprised that it possibly isn't working out.
 
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Curt S Loew said:
There's another opening if he doesn't want to wait. This actually would be pretty awesome.

https://nantucketcurrent.com/sports/tim-psaradelis-steps-down-as-football-head-coach-after-two-seasons
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Yes, this would definitely be awesome. I'm still wondering if Navy football or Wellesley Lacrosse is next in the offing for Belichick?

And, having read the article you linked, it leaves me with the question: what the hell is going on with Nantucket football? A toxic environment? Jesus, HS football is a helluva lot different from when I played.
 
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lexrageorge said:
One of these days, someone (not Bill) is going to write a book, and we'll hopefully get some inside dirt. Until then, all we can do is guess and speculate.
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I wonder whether Jon Gruden would write it. He's already written a successful book: View: https://www.amazon.com/Do-You-Love-Football-Winning/dp/B000C4SGOG

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He's been great the few times he's been in studio. I couldn't swear he did that during the playoffs last year but my brain is telling me that. I know I've seen him in that role before. Couldn't find anything in a quick search about that, but I found these:

The Hoodie in the Booth? Bill Belichick’s TV Analyst Prospects Grow

Bill Belichick Nominated for Sports Emmy for Work as Studio Analyst on NFL 100
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He was also totally charming on the ESPN college set before Army-Navy, which produced the all-timer Belichick image below: https://www.patriots.com/video/coach-bill-belichick-discusses-the-history-and-importance-of-army-navy-game-on-e

 
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I'd like to see him do something on a PPV basis. completely unfiltered, cursing, ripping on people for mistakes, etc. Bring in Scar, Ernie Adams, etc., as guests. like a completely uncensored Manningcast.

He never uses foul language in public facing things, but he's supposed to be tremendously foul mouthed behind the scenes (I think it was Damien Woody who said something like "his SB pregame speech was touching, even though it was all F bombs").

I'd pay for that weekly.
 
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SemperFidelisSox said:
I’m sure there is a certain level of self preservation going on in some of these organizations and front offices who have owners enamored with Bill. If hiring him means they will have less power or even be moved out completely, its understandable why they may use whatever influence they have with the owner to get him to go in another direction.
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Good lord do you really believe this?
 
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Do it like the Manning cast with guests coming in (Gronk/Edelman) where they just comment and tell stories.
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They would shred, I’m in.


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Good lord do you really believe this?
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I’m not saying it’s necessarily the deciding factor but yes.

If Rich is convinced that BB gets Arthur the ring then maybe he steps aside. It may be unpopular to say here, but not everyone thinks that way at all.

For sure McKay fears being a bug on BBs windshield, he should, so maybe he leans into the ear and emphasizes those (non scientific) media reports indicating BB would be wildly unpopular, etc…he’s just doing his job (wink, wink).
 
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The guy is 72 and is coming off a dumpster fire of a season in Foxboro, so bad that the Krafts decided to move on from their living legend of a coach. I wouldn't be surprised if Bill could still coach them up with the best of them, but I also wouldn't be surprised if he can't anymore, and it isn't that surprising that none of the NFL owners who were looking for coaches didn't want to entrust their multi-billion dollar franchise to a guy who probably only has a couple of years left and may have already lost it.

If Bill left after 2019 instead of Brady at age 67 and one year removed from a SB (and without the data points on how BB has done since Brady left and vice versa) he probably could have picked his landing spot. A lot has happened in the last four years.
 
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I'm not disputing that BB may have "lost it", but what exactly do aging NFL HCs lose? Mental capacity? The drive to win? Clout with the players? All of these?
 
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Literally nobody could coach that offense with Mac Jones and his supporting cast of 2nd rate players.
 
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