4/29: Game 4@Miami
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From post #905 it really didn’t seem like you did but happy to move on. At least Tatum avoided any kind of injury.
I mean.. very good is understating it really.. I believe they lost twice to Eastern Conference teams at home so far this year? Once to the Knicks at the end of the season and then to the Heat in the playoffs. They've only lost five home games total.
There have been hundreds of examples where players have slid their foot under shooters to try and get in their landing zone. So bad that they even made it into a flagrant foul. He rotated his body so his right foot went into Tatum's landing spot... was it so instinctual that he was turning to go for the rebound?.. I have no idea how you say there's zero chance that he was thinking of trying to hurt Tatum...this is a thing that players used to try and do all of the time. It's more instinctual now to try and avoid doing that.
I was clear on #841 that it should be a flagrant than I questioned how the rule was written.
I dunno man. I hate using the “I played at a high level” line but when I played in college and pro/am there was no chance I would ever be able to think quick enough at game speed to try and injure someone. We see it now in slo-no so yeah it looks like a conscientious decision can be made….I can assure you that it cannot on a play like this. Now don’t confuse this play with a Draymond one who always goes for a hard shot. We’ll never know unless Tatum tells us that he knows Bam and he knows but I’m pretty certain from my experience that it wasn’t.
I hope to live long enough to one day see the Celtics not have a major injury in the playoffs.
After all that, the true meaning of all Miami's tshirts was just that they really want DW to just go home and stop clowning on them.
Wait you think there is a scenario where a coach makes contact with an opposing player that people wouldn't lose their minds?
Yeah.. I'm not convinced, how long ago was that? And did the leagues you played in have a flagrant foul rule in place because players in your league used to do that all of the time? It's a bang-bang play, but NBA players have been thinking this way, and have done this enough times, that they are fully competent doing it any time they're close and see a player up in the air. Bam turned into Tatum.. zero reason for him to do that.. I will say this... by contesting the shot and turning into Tatum, he didn't care if he didn't hurt Tatum. It may not have been intentional, but he didn't care if there was a chance that Tatum landed on his foot.
I think it is moreso that Pat Riley gave him his first NBA job when going to the Heat in the mid '90s, and he was assistant then head coach with the organization for 11 or 12 years. SVG is way in the bag for the Heat, the odd part is there are a lot of former coaches and players who can somewhat hide their allegiances when announcing, but Stan makes no effort to do this.
I would imagine players are also trained to react to the whistle, so Bam instinctively/unconsciously knows the pressure is off. Whatever Tatum is doing—Bam may not like it—but there’s nothing at stake for the game. What gets me is the shove. That’s a bad thing to do my dude, and then stepping in on him. Fuck that. Lots of players take after the whistle shots. They don’t expect to be shoved and stepped into. And ironically, the fact that the whistle blew may have relaxed Bam a hair to think that nobody would notice if he gave a little extra there.
Whether or not Bam had the time to think 'aha! here's a excellent time to injure the great Jayson Tatum' is completely and comically irrelevant. Most dirty and dangerous plays in all of sports are impulsive and non-premeditated actions. Giving Bam a pass based on his brain computations measured in milliseconds is, frankly, dumb.
I believe this is the meaning of the shirts. Talk about your ultimate backfire:
My favorite part of the game was in the first quarter when they went to the courtside reporter to gush for 90 seconds about how Bam is a locker room leader and Kevin Love wants ‘em to win one for the Gipper and while he was going on, White eviscerated the Heat for a solo 8 - 0 run.
That was great, but it paled in comparison to fifteen game thread pages arguing about the mechanics of a flagrant foul.
Didn't watch live so I missed the game thread, but did anyone else notice Jaime Hector (Marlo Stanfield) sitting next to Al's dad??
They showed him 3 or 4 times, I'm sure it's him.
They showed him 3 or 4 times, I'm sure it's him.
This is how I see it. Very few people drive 75 MPH through city streets literally *trying* to run someone over.
Awesome. I see Jaime is 48 now. He looks as timeless as the Horford family.