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    That was then: Celebrating what was

    Sticking to one's convictions should not be dismissed as one's only alternative. It's more a measure of character. It's more rare than we are willing to admit to and truly rare in the NFL.
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    That was then: Celebrating what was

    What also may be true is that BB put his coaching life on the line in support of Brady. If it had gone sideways, he might have ended up on the scrap heap of two-time losers, unlikely to ever get another shot. This was a matter of extreme conviction because there was a safe route to take....but...
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    2024 Mock Drafts are more fun than this boring, awful Patriots Team

    @FermSheller is absolutely correct. How dumb to forget an OT. Now we'll have to trade one of 120 1st round picks we have. BTW who is this Mac you speak of?
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    2024 Mock Drafts are more fun than this boring, awful Patriots Team

    I made a bunch of savvy trades on one of those sites and came up with the following draft Round 1-Lawrence Taylor LB North Carolina Round 2-Jim Brown-RB-Syracuse Round 3-John Hanaah OG-Alabama Round 4-Randy Moss-WR-Marshall Round 5-Dick Butkus-ILB-Illinois Round 6-Thomas Brady-QB-Michigan Round...
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    Official Patriots 2024 Draft Pick Watch Thread (#3)

    Here's a little game to play. Every year there are the top 5 QBs (whether they suck or not). Taking the top 5 for the last 4 years where would you place the projection of this years top 5 (Williams, Maye, Daniels,Nix and Penix) and rank the entire group 1.Young 2.Stroud 3. Richardson 4.Levis...
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    Championship Weekend: Chiefs @ Ravens, Lions @ 49ers

    Gee, I hope not. Because if he did BC gave a degree to the dumbest F**k I have ever seen who has decided to piss this game away single-handedly. You don't think he's been talking to Rick Kuhn?
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    What is next for BB?

    I'm 79 yrs old. I saw Butch Songin QB the BOSTON Patriots. I saw a game in Harvard Stadium. I saw a game at Nickerson Field. I froze my ass off sitting on the metal bleachers at Schaefer Stadium all the while dodging beer cans and trying to stay out of the weekly melees that punctuated the...
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    What is next for BB?

    Perhaps there are "sine qua nons" that Bill feels he cannot operate without. Full control is not at issue because that ship has sailed for everybody and it seems reasonable that Bill knows that. It may be as simple as hiring staff that he feels comfortable with, or how much or how little...
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    Official Patriots 2024 Draft Pick Watch Thread (#3)

    I don't have their High School and PeeWee stats to back me up, so I'm afraid you have caught me in a moment of snarky exaggeration. But I still don't like the comp. And you may very well be right....Maye will develop into a true dual threat who frightens opponents with both arm and legs. The...
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    What is next for BB?

    But some are better at it than others. No small sample size for McKay. As The Tuna would say, "you are what your record says you are." And McKay's record is classic "meh". But he always has a HC and GM to blame.
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    Official Patriots 2024 Draft Pick Watch Thread (#3)

    Does anyone understand what a monster Josh Allen is? Maye has some run in him but comparing him to Allen in any way as a runner is folly.
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    Official Patriots 2024 Draft Pick Watch Thread (#3)

    OTOH, if you take a swing and miss at #3, you actually have a decent chance at drafting in the top3 again.
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    Official Patriots 2024 Draft Pick Watch Thread (#3)

    This is so true. The presumption that there will be a worthy QB prospect available in Rd 2 may be highly flawed. There are so many QB needy teams that it is more than possible that 6 QBs go in round 1. Williams, Maye, Daniels, McCarthy, Nix, and Penix are all 1st round possibilities...
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    What is next for BB?

    Of course, its also possible that the other owners, given the unparalleled success of the Pats might think of Bob Kraft as a whiny pain in the ass.
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    Official Patriots 2024 Draft Pick Watch Thread (#3)

    Isn't Fields in the last year of his rookie contract? If so, that means they get one "free" year then have to pay him on 2nd contract, somewhere in 20-25 mil range. Which seems like a massive overpay for a guy who is unlikely to ever be a top 15 QB. And if he doesn't work out, you've spent...
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    What is next for BB?

    With an active owner in Blank. A CEO in McKay. And a GM in Fontentot. Complete control? Not likely and he knows it.
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    Official Patriots 2024 Draft Pick Watch Thread (#3)

    There is a strong case to be made (I wouldn't do it because I am with @Mugsy's Walk-Off Bunt ) but there is a strong case for trading back, hope to grab a franchise LT and fill in the many holes of this team with multiple 2nd and 3rd round picks.
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    Official Patriots 2024 Draft Pick Watch Thread (#3)

    Given the QB needy teams, I suspect Nix has less than a 50/50 chance to be there at #35.
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    Official Patriots 2024 Draft Pick Watch Thread (#3)

    You are probably right but it may be that the Bears don't want to give him a 2nd contract either. I certainly wouldn't.
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    What is next for BB?

    Buffalo is the Krafts worst nightmare and it makes some sense. Their window is closing and so is Bill’s. But there is still talent there and McDermott has not been able to squeeze it all out. A SB win in Buffalo and a final mic drop at the HOF ceremony and Bill could walk away become his...