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  1. Cellar-Door

    2023-2024 General NBA Season Thread

    Ah well was hoping that the Bulls would make it one more game before remembering who they are
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    What do you want Pats to do with #3?

    I still think it's bad for two reasons: 1. You have no idea if he makes it to 6 2. I don't think he's worth the 6th pick.
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    What do you want Pats to do with #3?

    So since it's less than a week out and outside of some weird out of the box thing I can't see my mind changing..... time to look all the way back to the first page to see how much my thoughts changed. So stayed the same... I want Caleb most. Chicago is not moving that pick. Trading down for a...
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    What do you want Pats to do with #3?

    Yeah Massey Thaler is pretty well known and a good refutation of the old Jimmy Johnson chart. One thing worth noting that even they have mentioned since is... They don't really have a good way to evaluate positional value, particularly for QBs(to be fair the chart didn't either and it's a reason...
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    What do you want Pats to do with #3?

    I think bringing them all in as a group is a little weird since I would think you'd want to spend as much time as possible doing 1 on 1 with your top options. I think the Schefter thing that Daniels and his agent were lead to believe it was a 1 on 1 thing only to find out day of it was 20...
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    What do you want Pats to do with #3?

    I think the Kingsbury offense is a great fit for Daniels' strengths and weaknesses..... but.... Daniels is not a perfect fit for Kingsbury's offense (which he ideally does not want to be 1 read and run). Kingsbury's ideal QB doesn't really look like Jayden Daniels, or even Kyler.... he looks...
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    Eliot Wolf will be in charge of the personnel department,

    Well I saw him walking it back elsewhere, and now he's going for the "well WAS still wants him but he might not want them" angle. I wonder whether his original really strong take was from someone in the FO in WAS who didn't have as much pull (that is a weird crowded FO/Owner situation) or it was...
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    Eliot Wolf will be in charge of the personnel department,

    He started walking that back pretty hard this week fwiw.
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    What do you want Pats to do with #3?

    Mariota is definitely not like Daniels, he's a worse runner than Maye at this point. I'd say his final year at Oregon he was really closer to Maye than Daniels as a runner. Daniels is definitely the better runner, but Maye had a TON of scrambles for 1st downs last year, and in 2022 he ran for...
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    2024 NFL General Season News and Notes

    Yes. Now it's a fundamentally dumb hypo because it supposes team success as part of it, but...... If you get Lamar level performance and don't win or go to a SB.... that's not Lamar's fault, and you wouldn't have gone to or won a SB with a different QB. But it's still a dumb hypo. On a more...
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    What do you want Pats to do with #3?

    I can... he literally played in almost exactly Kingsbury's system in 2022 when he was excellent.
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    2023-2024 General NBA Season Thread

    View: https://twitter.com/JamalCollier/status/1781342995687580090 Caruso expects to play.
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    What do you want Pats to do with #3?

    Actually going the opposite way. He was the major favorite in the betting markets to go #2.... it's dropped to the same odds between him and Maye.
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    Misc. Pats Offseason News

    Hard to say, but he really only has 1 year of his 3 as a starter that he was a good passer, the other 2 he was probably below average to average at best as a passer. He brings value with his legs as well though, but as a passer.... probably more likely that he's nothing special than anything else.
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    What do you want Pats to do with #3?

    While I get the appeal of kicking QB down the road.... 1. You then need to find the QB while the rest of the roster you drafted in 2024 gets expensive 2. There is no particular reason to think the rest of the division will have QB issues, BUF has a young stud, and NYJ and MIA won't be any...
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    What do you want Pats to do with #3?

    Obviously it all depends on your evals, but one thing is ... QBs go in cycles. 2023- considered either a 3 or 4 QB class depending who you asked.... 3 went top 4, the last went 33rd. Way too early to judge, all 3 will be locked in starters next year. 2022- considered a very weak class, 1 in the...
  17. Cellar-Door

    2023-2024 General NBA Season Thread

    did it last year too, they want doubleheaders, I'd assume it's TV related.
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    The Krafts

    I would guess Kraft 100% talked shit about Bill to other owners, talking about how difficult he was to deal with, etc. etc. I also think it had very little to do with Bill not getting a job, I think age and people already in the building who have far more trust from the owner than Kraft being...
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    Eliot Wolf will be in charge of the personnel department,

    Wolf doesn't control his options to the extent Peters does is what I see, so he's in a stronger position. He'll either get the best deal he can or his #2 QB in the draft.... Wolf may not get his #2 QB... and if he has a tier break after 2.... that's tough.
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    The Krafts

    I'm going to move on, but if you can't tell the difference between a guy who had a ton of jobs that have no relation to his father and someone whose entire career his primary job has been working for his father I don't know what to tell you. Or the difference between a kid having a coach for a...
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