2/14 Another O/U of 1.5 on regular starters

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Both Muscala & Hauser were able to fend off Giannis' rim runs in the half-court numerous times

that is HUGE
Yeah. Tough finish but my takeaway is that there is a playoff role for Moose. Not sure about Hauser but he’ll probably have a moment or two. This team is just so deep.
 

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I think we have to give CJM props on getting an under manned team with 1 starter, ready to play their asses off against one of the best teams in the NBA on the road.

That's part of coaching too.
 

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Most annoying thing is it's a missed opportunity to have gone up 2 games and secured the tiebreaker with the final matchup also being in Milwaukee. That's going to be tough even with the starters.
 

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Both Muscala & Hauser were able to fend off Giannis' rim runs in the half-court numerous times

that is HUGE
Relatedly...Giannis had his usual shit ton of FTs, but not a lot of 3pt plays. When they fouled, they fouled well.
 

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I think we have to give CJM props on getting an under manned team with 1 starter, ready to play their asses off against one of the best teams in the NBA on the road.
He got them to play really hard so he could fuck’em at the end. It’s old school Andy Reid shit.
 

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And I didn’t even really hate it. Looked bad because it was an air ball but with this lineup I’m living with a Muscala three all day long.
Yeah. Just seemed rushed, like he didnt really have the ball secured. I also might not totally know what he usually looks like shooting.
 

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The margins are freakishly small come playoff time. Letting them figure it out has not really proven to provide an edge so far in these late and close situations with TOs available.

It’s not embarrassing to point out possible areas of improvement for our rookie coach. Are all the sportswriters saying it also basketball dummies?
 

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No. Nobody is arguing that. Mazzulla lost the game. Does that make anyone feel better?

No?

Its because you all know too much. One person doesn't win or lose games. Its virtually impossible.

And imo, more than a few people complaining about timeouts are embarrassing themselves because they are showing they don't understand hoops. Not @ you but let's be honest. Most people are complaining to complain about one of the best teams in the league.
I don’t understand how complaining about not taking a timeout at the end means you don’t understand hoops?
I think it’s a pretty fair complaint and topic
 

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He got them to play really hard so he could fuck’em at the end. It’s old school Andy Reid shit.
I have been one of CJMs more vocal critics here re his in game coaching. I've real mixed feelings about him and if he's what this team needs, particularly in the post season in tight games. But I'm not sure how much his style was a factor tonight.
 

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Another takeaway from tonight is that the regular season is too damn long. I am ready for some playoff hoops but not for another two freaking months!
 

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The margins are freakishly small come playoff time. Letting them figure it out has not really proven to provide an edge so far in these late and close situations with TOs available.
Is the first point accurate, though? (That is hasn't been working). I do know why it seems that way.
Is it at all relevant to Mazzulas decision making that the Celtics previous bucket by brogdon came off a made FT and no TO?
 

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Great game, great experience for some of those dudes. Obviously a win would have been epic but you love to see the effort. CJM is awesome.
 

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I have been one of CJMs more vocal critics here re his in game coaching. Ve real mixed feelings about him and if he's what this team needs. But I'm not sure how much that was a factor tonight.
Im just some guy that doesn’t know hoops but when the ball crossed half court I thought the Cs looked discombobulated. The timeouts during runs is not really an issue I have. POTUS Brad used to get criticized for that too. I thought Joe during regulation needed to do better buying rest and that his guys needed help at the end and he said fuck it.
 

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It’s a general commentary. They’ve had the same shit happen with the starters playing.
Still, this is hysterical. They were supposed to lose this game and they took it to overtime. This is exculpatory for the coach. Any other take is moron tier. Sorry.
 

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One more thing, the other day someone, I don’t know who, said Joe was good because his ato stats are great. I really hope that wasn’t anyone who is saying eating two timeouts tonight was brilliant coaching.
 

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What is this junk? The fact that you feel the need to defend Joe every single time anyone brings up his TO usage is just strange IMO. And unless you bring some credentials to the table I'm not sure why you feel ok constantly telling other people what they're thinking is 'embarrassing' or that they don't know hoops etc. Unless you played pro or something I'm not sure why you feel the need to talk down to people.
Credentials? Hahaha.

Do I need them for pointing out that there are a lot of frustrated never were NBA coaches on this board? I don't think you can get credentialed for that but maybe.

There are people here smarter than the coach of the Celtics. They tell us often. Shouldn't the onus be on them to explain why they know better than the coach of a team that has won more than its lost?
 

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Credentials? Hahaha.

Do I need them for pointing out that there are a lot of frustrated never were NBA coaches on this board? I don't think you can get credentialed for that but maybe.

There are people here smarter than the coach of the Celtics. They tell us often. Shouldn't the onus be on them to explain why they know better than the coach of a team that has won more than its lost?
Should Grady Little have left Pedro in game 7 of the 2003 ALCS?
 

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Im just some guy that doesn’t know hoops but when the ball crossed half court I thought the Cs looked discombobulated. The timeouts during runs is not really an issue I have. POTUS Brad used to get criticized for that too. I thought Joe during regulation needed to do better buying rest and that his guys needed help at the end and he said fuck it.
At the time I thought this game was "blownl" late in the 3rd qtr and an argument could be made for a more proactive game management .

Hindsight is always 20 20.
 

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Too soon.
Not for nothin’ but there are people here smarter than the manager of the Red Sox. They tell us often. Shouldn't the onus be on them to explain why they know better than the manager of a team that has won more than it has lost?
 

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Still, this is hysterical. They were supposed to lose this game and they took it to overtime. This is exculpatory for the coach. Any other take is moron tier. Sorry.
“Moron tier” is kind of uncalled for. It’s perfectly fair to question Joe’s end of game/timeout philosophy while also praising him for his overall game plan tonight and getting the C squad ready to play.
 

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It’s perfectly fine to disagree about calling the timeout after before the Celtics last possession. Arguments can be made for both sides. But to call someone a moron for saying they thought a timeout should have been called there is wild to me. Yeah, we aren’t NBA coaches and never will be but it’s ok to have an opinion about something. Isn’t that sort of the point of a message board?
 

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Still, this is hysterical. They were supposed to lose this game and they took it to overtime. This is exculpatory for the coach. Any other take is moron tier. Sorry.
It’s a title or bust season so yes my takes are generally going to be frantic until they clinch it. Our rookie coach/young team was outclassed last year by a great coach/team (not by much, but enough) so yeah I’m worried it will happen again.

I’m sure it will be perfect though, I am just a moron.
 

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Should Grady Little have left Pedro in game 7 of the 2003 ALCS?
No. Grady and everyone associated with the team knew better as well. They had the data.

Aside from this, loss (which is totally, equally devastating) and the remaining TOs what hard data do we have that Mazzulla is costing this team? I am 100% open that he may be. Its possible but nobody can show it - people were actually complaining about timeout usage during a pretty decent win on Sunday! And then the onus gets shifted back to those who don't think there is a real problem to prove there is no problem. Its like a bad Escher knockoff.

Finally, we can agree to disagree about this game because nobody really thought they had a shot going in. Even if Mazzulla mismanaged this game, its almost meaningless.

Again, eerily similar to that crappy ass game that you just had to shoehorn into this lame sports night.
 

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I don't get the data onus™. Is there data that shows that not calling a TO before a last-second possession is the right play? Will not calling TOs during long runs of negative play actually be beneficial in the long run? Seems like dude is kinda just winging it tbh.
 

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they fought like hell and had a real chance to win. pretty amazing under the circumstances. Kornet only played 2 minutes so presumably he is pretty fresh for tonight. Pritchard played just 14. Everyone else except TL, (who I assume won't play tonight) went hard (and also assuming Brogdon won't go back to back because of Achilles soreness--surprised he played as much as he did. Hope Horford plays, and hope Griffin has something left for a back to back. quick turnaround, to say the least.

forgot that Grant was on injury report for Mil game--sounds like he may not play tonight:

View: https://twitter.com/ByJayKing/status/1625704151425466368
 
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Just got home after watching the first half and missing the rest. This game went to overtime!??! I’m sure there were frustrating moments (there always are), but damn I’m proud of these guys.
 

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Speaking of getting hit in the head, Hauser bounced his head of the floor last night. He does not show up on the lengthy injury list for tonight's game against the Pistons so I guess he is okay but the All Star Break can't come soon enough for this hospital squad.
 

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Speaking of getting hit in the head, Hauser bounced his head of the floor last night. He does not show up on the lengthy injury list for tonight's game against the Pistons so I guess he is okay but the All Star Break can't come soon enough for this hospital squad.
That was one of the more audible "head hits floor" I can remember. He seemed Ok the rest of the game, but it looked painful.
 

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He got them to play really hard so he could fuck’em at the end. It’s old school Andy Reid shit.
If Joe then eventually turns into "new school" Andy Reid, I will take that to the tune of multiple championships in the future!

Another takeaway from tonight is that the regular season is too damn long. I am ready for some playoff hoops but not for another two freaking months!
Not even the All Star Break! Holy crap. It feels like they should just stop the season after game 59 and start the play-ins next week.