2013 College Baseball: The Road to the Ray Tanner Invitational

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Horseshit on the horseshit.  UNC's Tuesday/Wednesday schedule this year.  You tell me where Campbell ranks historically on that list?  They're not better than Coastal, Elon, UNCW... 
 
Gardner Webb
High Point
VCU
Winthrop
UNC Wilmington (twice)
Elon (twice)
Liberty
Coastal (twice)
Charlotte
Citadel
Ap State
 
**bold teams are in the field of 64
 
I would argue there is zero fallout recruiting wise from playing these schools.  They even played Elon away once.  Tues/Wed games for major conferences are more about geographic convenience and less about competitiveness.  Sure they want to win, but they never throw the weekend guys unless its someone coming back from down time.  This is just UNC's schedule, look at the Gamecocks, Clemson, NCState, Georgia and you'll find the same thing - Tues/Wed games against smaller D1's that are within driving distance.  It may be different up north, but down here with a ton of small college baseball programs on top of each other, that's the schedule filler on T/W for the big programs.
 

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Yeah, Paul is right.  Down south with so many schools close to each other, big schools and smaller schools typically play each other all the time in mid-weeks.  When I was a student at Western Carolina, we played Georgia, Georgia Tech, Clemson, South Carolina, and Tennessee regularly.  UGA, Clemson, and Tennessee came to us as well.  Here at SB, it's about geography too but the other schools around us except for Seton Hall and St. John's aren't very good so our OOC isn't very good after our big trips are done.  We've branched out to play URI and Bryant the last couple of years and got St. John's to play us at Citi Field this year.
 
Campbell should have gotten in with 49 wins, but the gripe that their OOC wasn't very good is a real one.  They've got to add a few more of those UNC and NC State games in the mid-week and also avoid scheduling teams like Hartford, FDU, Eastern Michigan, and Lafayette for weekend series in the non-conference.  That's not good if you expect to have a good team and want to have a good RPI.
 

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PaulinMyrBch said:
Horseshit on the horseshit.  UNC's Tuesday/Wednesday schedule this year.  You tell me where Campbell ranks historically on that list?  They're not better than Coastal, Elon, UNCW... 
 
RedOctober3829 said:
Yeah, Paul is right. 
 
Campbell should have gotten in with 49 wins, but the gripe that their OOC wasn't very good is a real one. 
 
Fair enough. I stand corrected, and defer to the right honorable raccoon killer from the golf capitol of America.
 

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I'm on a ground mole tear right now.  They are turning my backyard into mush. I've managed to impale three when I see the ground move, but I think it just pissed off the cousins, because the tunnels are still active.  Since they're underground, stringing the dead ones up like Ned from the Unforgiven doesn't have the deterrent effect it did with the Raccoons.  Once the kids head off for college, we're moving to a condo.
 

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The NAIA World Series final starts in about a half-hour in Lewiston, Idaho. Host Lewis-Clark State faces #1 seed Faulkner (AL) at 9:35 EDT, and L-C will have to beat them twice.
 

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Faulkner won:  http://www.naiaworldseries.com/2013/news/18.htm
 

Faulkner (Ala.) scored six runs in the top of the second inning, opening a gulf that the Lewis-Clark State (Idaho) baseball team couldn’t bridge and helping the
Eagles to an 11-4 victory in the championship game of the 2013 Avista-NAIA Baseball World Series on Friday night at Harris Field.
 
Clearly it wasn't Friday night, but anyway.
 

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Regional play has kicked off today already.  Every game is on the ESPN family with the bulk on ESPN3.
 
Here are the televised games
Currently: Troy vs. Alabama ESPNU(Troy up 3-1 top 4)
St Louis vs. South Carolina 7:00 ESPN2
ETSU vs. Vanderbilt 7:00 ESPNU
Bryant vs. Arkansas 8:00 ESPNU
Columbia vs. Fullerton 11:00 ESPNU
 

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Other scores of note: Austin Peay over Florida 4-3, Towson beat FAU(Towson cut program earlier in year), Kansas State over Witchita 20-11, Illinois over Georgia Tech 6-4, W&M over Ole Miss 4-2.

UConn is up on VT 5-1 in the 9th. VT spent upwards of 60k upgrading their facility to host.
 

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What a fucking finish in Bloomington.

IU wins in walk off fashion...

Edit: I'm now actually feeling bad for that Valpo pitcher. Not going to be a fun night for him.
 

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#1 seeds on the hot seat today:
 
#1 national seed UNC vs Fla Atlantic (6pm)
#2 national seed Vanderbilt vs Georgia Tech (7pm)
#8 national seed Oregon vs Rice (9pm)
-regional #1 seed Miss St. vs Central Arkansas (8pm)
-regional #1 seed S. Carolina gets 2 chances vs Liberty (1pm & &7pm)
 

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Trent Thornton has been a savior for UNC. Six plus innings of scoreless relief against State in the 18 inning game in the ACC tournament and six plus innings of relief so far in the Regionals.
 

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This game is awesome. No way I'm falling asleep now...

3 run homer in the top of the 12th for FAU to make it 11-8... Bases now loaded with no outs in the bottom half.
 

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Tie game. Why not have at play at the plate for the potential walk off. Bang bang play, but the throw beat Stubbs and he's called out. Weak ground out follows and we're on to the 13th.
 

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RedOctober3829 said:
UNC should be ashamed of how they used their starters last night on such short rest.
I can't tell if I'm walking into this, but...Emmanuel was the only one who threw a significant numbers of pitches. Moss and Johnson threw 11 pitches combined.
 
The real issue was FAU sending Adams back out in the 12th. He looked like absolute toast and walked in a run before he got pulled. 
 

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Easy Ed Cota said:
I can't tell if I'm walking into this, but...Emmanuel was the only one who threw a significant numbers of pitches. Moss and Johnson threw 11 pitches combined.
 
The real issue was FAU sending Adams back out in the 12th. He looked like absolute toast and walked in a run before he got pulled. 
Johnson started the day before and threw 90 pitches. Moss started the day before that. Emmanuel and Adams were on fumes. Believe me, this isn't just a UNC issue. Too many coaches abuse their pitchers and jeopardize their pro careers for their own gain. They need to tweak this regional format. Maybe the tourney needs to be best-of-3 series until the CWS instead of 4 team double elim regionals where some teams could play 5 games in 4 days.
 

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RedOctober3829 said:
Johnson started the day before and threw 90 pitches. Moss started the day before that. Emmanuel and Adams were on fumes. Believe me, this isn't just a UNC issue. Too many coaches abuse their pitchers and jeopardize their pro careers for their own gain. They need to tweak this regional format. Maybe the tourney needs to be best-of-3 series until the CWS instead of 4 team double elim regionals where some teams could play 5 games in 4 days.
 
The problem is finding a happy medium that works with all the formats.  In my state, some stud HS pitchers are going to pitch their team into the state finals only to not be able to participate.  Or the coach will gamble and save him and they crash out early.
 
The rules work in the regular season because you don't need your stud every game and you can give him regular work and make sure he's got innings to face the top teams. In the post season, the teams are hamstrung.
 
Sadly, for some kids these days are the last time they play competitive ball and some will go home early because their best team wasn't out there.
 
And I'm not saying it's wrong, it's just a tough thing to justify to a bunch of kids.
 

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RedOctober3829 said:
Johnson started the day before and threw 90 pitches. Moss started the day before that. Emmanuel and Adams were on fumes. Believe me, this isn't just a UNC issue. Too many coaches abuse their pitchers and jeopardize their pro careers for their own gain. They need to tweak this regional format. Maybe the tourney needs to be best-of-3 series until the CWS instead of 4 team double elim regionals where some teams could play 5 games in 4 days.
 
Many of these college pitchers won't have pro careers, as DrewDawg pointed out. If all these NC pitchers have futures in the pros, that's because NC is an outlier not the norm.
 

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So is UNC. They lost 8-0 to South Carolina. Game 3 tomorrow night.

UCLA punched their ticket back to Omaha last night with a 3-0 win over #5 Fullerton.

#6 Virginia and #3 Oregon State have win or go home games this evening as well.

Rice is up 1-0 on NC State in the 5th.
 

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What's your IU connection if you don't mind me asking?

The countless afternoons I spent at Bart Kauffman by myself (with 10-20 other baseball nerds) for four years is a little more meaningful today.

Omaha bound.

Hoo Hoo Hoo Hoosiers.
 

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What's your IU connection if you don't mind me asking?

The countless afternoons I spent at Bart Kauffman by myself (with 10-20 other baseball nerds) for four years is a little more meaningful today.

Omaha bound.

Hoo Hoo Hoo Hoosiers.
 
BS Finance class of '90
 

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Good stuff.

Ernie Pyle Journalism class of 2010 over yonder.

Greatest four years of my life. No other college I've visited compares to BTown.
 

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NCState ties it up off Rice closer Zach Lemond in the ninth for the second straight time. 4-4 now entering the bottom of the inning (Rice is home team today even though the game is in Raleigh).
 

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Rice and NC State are in the 16th inning tied at 4. Rice is trying to stay alive.

NC State takes a 5-4 lead in the 17th inning on a gap shot. Runner scores from 1st with 1out. NC State is the road team tonight even though they are playing at home.

NC State hangs on to advance to Omaha. They have a chance to break the ACC's long drought. They will take on the winner of UNC-SC.
 

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RedOctober3829 said:
So is UNC. They lost 8-0 to South Carolina. Game 3 tomorrow night.
 
Terrible starting pitching the first two games. If not for shoddy SC defense, this might already be over. UNC "saved" their good bullpen arms for today, basically punting the game when it was 5-0. Should be interesting.
 

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Easy Ed Cota said:
Terrible starting pitching the first two games. If not for shoddy SC defense, this might already be over. UNC "saved" their good bullpen arms for today, basically punting the game when it was 5-0. Should be interesting.
Kent Emmanuel only threw 63 pitches on Saturday.  I'd imagine he could give them an inning or 2 tonight. 
 
Mississippi State and UVA were postponed in the bottom of the 7th inning due to rain yesterday.  They will resume play at 4 pm today with MSU currently holds a 5-3 lead.  If a Game 3 is necessary, it will be played 55 minutes after the conclusion of Game 2.
 
Oregon State dismantled K-State 12-4 last night and forced a Game 3 which will be played tonight at 10 pm.
 
Here is how the 2 CWS brackets shape up.  If you don't know, the CWS is  2 4-team double-elimination regionals with the winners meeting for a championship series.  Bracket 1 is absolutely stacked with great teams.  If UNC wins, you set up a rivalry game with 2 of the most talented pitchers in the country going against each other(Emmanuel vs. Carlos Rodon) and the other game would feature  Aaron Nola for LSU(confirmed by Paul Manieri today) vs. Adam Plutko of UCLA.
 
Bracket 1
NC State vs. UNC/South Carolina winner--June 15th 3:00
UCLA vs. LSU--June 15th 8:00
 
Bracket 2
MSU/UVA vs. OSU/K-State--June 16th 3:00
Indiana vs. Louisville--June 16th 8:00
 

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UVa falls 6-5 to Mississippi St. After yesterday's rain delay, they re-started in the bottom of the 7th with MSU up 5-3.  A bad fielding error by UVa led to another insurance run which ended up being the game-winner.  UVa started a 2-out rally in the 9th and got the tying and lead runners to 2nd & 3rd before a close 5-3 groundout to end it.
 
5 of the 8 national seeds have fallen with #1 UNC & #3 OSU still scrapping for the final slots in Omaha.