2014-15 Championship- Go ahead and lump your other crappy leagues in here too I guess

Status
Not open for further replies.

Investor 11

Plobbably the greatest videographer ever
SoSH Member
Jul 23, 2006
3,916
San Diego
A little late considering the end of the season is near, but something I was finally just able to figure out.

I subscribe to the Derby County player which allows live audio streaming of games. My main complaint is that I was not able to stream on an iPhone or iPad. If anyone else has been having the same problem with their team, there is a solution.

Search the App Store for "FLI Player." Select your team and enter your login info. You can then live stream games and watch video highlights.
 

Dummy Hoy

Angry Pissbum
SoSH Member
Jul 22, 2006
8,249
Falmouth
Another look at the mess after the midweek fixtures today (Watford and Forest to play tomorrow):

 

Bournemouth (83):  Wednesday, Bolton, @Charlton

Norwich (82):  Boro, @Rovrum, Fulham

Middlesbrough (81): @Norwich, @Fulham, Brighton

Watford (76):  @Forest, Brum, @Brighton, Wednesday

Derby (75):  @Hudderfield, @Millwall, Reading

Ipswich (74):  @Wolves, Forest, @Blackburn

Wolves (71):  Ipswich, @Wigan, Millwall

Brentford (71):  Bolton, @Reading, Wigan

 

Great run of form for Bournemouth and Norwich. Forest is good, but they're nothing special at home and Watford is scary- I think we'll see them sitting at 79 after tomorrow, solidifying the top four. I don't see any of those teams dropping points the rest of the way other than in that HUGE Norwich/Boro game (Sky Sports Friday afternoon). Of course this is the Championship, so who knows?

 

The 'bottom' four here have pretty easy schedules...obviously the Ipswich/Wolves game is huge, but unless Wolves wins, I think Derby and Ipswich take the last two spots. Brentford shot themselves in the foot today, taking the loss at Hillsborough after an undefeated month of games.  A mighty run for them, but I think today's result may have stopped them.
 

Dummy Hoy

Angry Pissbum
SoSH Member
Jul 22, 2006
8,249
Falmouth
I'll update this afternoon, but a tough 0-1 loss for the Canaries last night. OG in the 8th and then some stout defending from Boro has Norwich in 4th, two back of Boro. Given that Bournemouth are hosting a poor Wednesday side and Watford are hosting a poorer Birmingham side, it looks like 4th with two to go.
 
Wednesday sucks, but to their credit (and Stuart Gray's), they are still playing hard- kicked Brentford in the plums last week, and with games against Bournemouth and Watford, they could make it a bit harder. Doubtful though.  
 

SoxFanInCali

has the rich, deep voice of a god
Lifetime Member
SoSH Member
Jun 3, 2005
15,613
California. Duh.
Wednesday got a penalty at the death to earn a draw, dropping Bournemouth to second behind Watford, only ahead of Boro on GD and 2 points ahead of Norwich.
 

Smiling Joe Hesketh

Throw Momma From the Train
Moderator
SoSH Member
May 20, 2003
35,909
Deep inside Muppet Labs
I thank you. And I'll take it. At this point I'm resigned to being in the promotion playoffs, but Wednesday's draw at least kept alive our chances at one of the automatic promotion spots.
 

dirtynine

Member
SoSH Member
Dec 17, 2002
8,427
Philly
Brighton is backsliding towards the relegation zone again. If the season was longer they'd be going down.  A loss to almost-relegated Wigan means they are going to need to squeak it out to survive.  As it stands 46 points and a not putrid GD might just get them through; doubtful they'll be adding to their total in the final two matches vs. clubs with much to play for at the top of the table.  Millwall need 7 points from a possible 9 to overtake them.  Here's to Blackburn this Tuesday - if they can take three points from Millwall, safety is assured for BHAFC.  
 
Survive and re-tool, hopefully.  
 

SoxFanInCali

has the rich, deep voice of a god
Lifetime Member
SoSH Member
Jun 3, 2005
15,613
California. Duh.
That basically dooms Milwall, short of a miracle set of results in the last couple weeks. Wigan is just about dead as well, with already-relegated Blackpool in the basement.
 

Dummy Hoy

Angry Pissbum
SoSH Member
Jul 22, 2006
8,249
Falmouth
Congrats dirtynine. League One is a like tar pit.
 
Hey! Guess who's coming to Hillsborough on Saturday? Classiest squad in the Football League.
 
Always an enjoyable Yorkshire Derby. Some years more than others.  :lol:
 
Aside from that bit of nonsense that only SS and I give a shit about, we're got a ton on the line this weekend.
 
Watford 85 (39 GD)                  @ Brighton (20th)       
Bournemouth 84 (47 GD)          v. Bolton (17th)
Middlesbrough 84 (32 GD)       @ Fulham (18th)
Norwich 82 (38 GD)                   v. Rotherham (21st)
Derby 76 (32 GD)                      v. Millwall (22nd)
Ipswich 75 (18 GD)                    v. Forest (11th)
Brentford 72 (14 GD)                 @ Reading (19th)
Wolves 72 (11 GD)                    @ Wigan (23rd)
 
 
I can't see any of the top 5 losing points (even with Derby's current form). Brentford and Wolves have nice match-ups as well, which if Ipswich can't hold off a talented Forest side, would have a 3 way tie for the last playoff spot going into the final week.
 
edit: Stupid Formatting
 

Investor 11

Plobbably the greatest videographer ever
SoSH Member
Jul 23, 2006
3,916
San Diego

Dummy Hoy

Angry Pissbum
SoSH Member
Jul 22, 2006
8,249
Falmouth
LOL. I knew that case was brewing but didn't think they'd actually grab the 3 points. Damn.
 
Whatever, fuck Rotherham.
 
 

Dummy Hoy

Angry Pissbum
SoSH Member
Jul 22, 2006
8,249
Falmouth
Watford 1-0 at the half.
 
Wednesday 1-0 at the half on a Chris Maguire penalty. A little over 28000 at Hillsborough, including 4000 in the visitor's end. 
 

Dummy Hoy

Angry Pissbum
SoSH Member
Jul 22, 2006
8,249
Falmouth
Piss poor second half from Wednesday and Leeds ran roughshod over them; 2-1 final for the visitors.  :barf:
 
Watford owned the second half as well, giving them 88 points, 4 up on Bournemouth and Boro with their games starting shortly. Watford hosts a Wednesday side that looked as if their bags were already packed in the second half. Should be an easy three and a title for Watford next weekend.
 

SoxFanInCali

has the rich, deep voice of a god
Lifetime Member
SoSH Member
Jun 3, 2005
15,613
California. Duh.
Boro lost 4-3 to Fulham and 10 man Norwich gave up a late equalizer to Rotherham.  Suddenly, the 2 auto-promotion spots will be decided with a week to go if Bournemouth can beat Bolton on Monday.
 
Rotherham's late point also keeps them 1 point above the relegation zone, as Millwall blew a 2 goal lead with 20 minutes to play and ended up with a point in a 3-3 draw with Derby County.
 

Stanley Steamer

Member
SoSH Member
Jan 11, 2012
1,438
Rossland, BC
I came here to post that Watford have been promoted, but I hadn't seen the Leeds result.
Thanks so much for that, DH. We haven't been able to beat anyone lately.
At the bottom, Rotherham clinging to safety over Wigan and Millwall, but they do apparently have a game in hand.
 

Titans Bastard

has sunil gulati in his sights
Lifetime Member
SoSH Member
Dec 15, 2002
14,457
Barnet won the Conference and direct promotion back to the Football League.  Bristol Rovers, Grimsby, Eastleigh, and Forest Green Rovers are in the playoffs.  The latter two have never played in the Football League and in fact this is actually Eastleigh's first season at the fifth level of the pyramid.  FGR have been in the Conference since 1998, but have never made the playoffs.  I have to imagine that their town (Nailsworth, population 5,794) would be the smallest in FL history?
 

Titans Bastard

has sunil gulati in his sights
Lifetime Member
SoSH Member
Dec 15, 2002
14,457
Looking elsewhere in England, Tranmere Rovers have been relegated from League Two, which ends a 94 year run in the League.  I remember watching their FA Cup quarterfinal replay against Millwall in 2004 on FSW (Tim Cahill scored for the Lions).  Cheltenham Town are also heading back down to the Conference after 16 seasons of bouncing between League One and League Two.
 
Burton and Shrewsbury are heading to League One, with the last autopromotion place going to Southend or Bury.
 
Bristol City are returning to the Championship as champions of League One.  2nd place is up in the air between Preston and MK Dons.  I'm sure The Franchise would receive a warm welcome in the second tier.  Preston is in pole position, but have an away game at relegation-threatened Colchester while MK Dons are at home against already-relegated Yeovil.
 
 
Maidstone United, who were the last FL team to go bust midseason in the early 1990s, were promoted to the Conference South.  They reincarnated in 1993 way, way down the pyramid (12th level at the time, or somewhere thereabouts) and have been slowly climbing back up since.
 

DLew On Roids

guilty of being sex
Lifetime Member
SoSH Member
Aug 30, 2001
13,906
The Pine Street Inn
Titans Bastard said:
Barnet won the Conference and direct promotion back to the Football League.  Bristol Rovers, Grimsby, Eastleigh, and Forest Green Rovers are in the playoffs.  The latter two have never played in the Football League and in fact this is actually Eastleigh's first season at the fifth level of the pyramid.  FGR have been in the Conference since 1998, but have never made the playoffs.  I have to imagine that their town (Nailsworth, population 5,794) would be the smallest in FL history?
 
The Football League goes back a long way, but the smallest town I can find is New Brighton, home to the short-lived New Brighton Tower FC, which has about 14,000 people.
 

SoxFanInCali

has the rich, deep voice of a god
Lifetime Member
SoSH Member
Jun 3, 2005
15,613
California. Duh.
Bournemouth is up 2-0 at the half.  They would clinch the 2nd automatic promotion spot with a win, putting them in the top tier of English football for the first time in their history.
 

SoxFanInCali

has the rich, deep voice of a god
Lifetime Member
SoSH Member
Jun 3, 2005
15,613
California. Duh.
Bournemouth have a 3rd, and Bolton is down to 10 men.  12 minutes left.  They will be 3 points ahead of Boro with a game to go, but with a +19 advantage in goal differential, they are going up.
 
The fans are singing the Match of the Day theme.  Awesome.
 

SoxFanInCali

has the rich, deep voice of a god
Lifetime Member
SoSH Member
Jun 3, 2005
15,613
California. Duh.
It's over.  They are up.  Let the pitch invasion begin.
 
Bournemouth really is an incredible story.  They went into administration while playing in League One in 2008, suffering a 10 point penalty that ultimately relegated them to League Two.  They had to start the 2008-09 season in League Two at -17 points due to violating the league's insolvency rules.  In December 2008 they hired former player Eddie Howe as the youngest manager in the Football League at 31, with the club in last place and still 10 points from safety.  They made a great run at the end of the season, and scored a goal with 10 minutes to go in the last match to win 2-1 and stay in the league.
 
They were promoted the following season, Howe left the club, and they stayed in League One for a couple years.  Howe returned in 2013 and took the club from a relegation battle all the way to promotion to the Championship.  Now, 2 years later, Howe has taken them into the top flight for the first time.
 

DennyDoyle'sBoil

Found no thrill on Blueberry Hill
SoSH Member
Sep 9, 2008
42,957
AZ
Not too much left to decide on the last matchday, except maybe whether Brentford or Wolves can displace Derby from the last playoff spot.  
 

Kevin Jewkilis

Member
SoSH Member
Dec 5, 2006
1,241
Lafayette Sq., Cambridge
This is my first post in this thread, and it's a good thing too, because in retrospect I would have made an ass of myself with some spectacularly wrong predictions.  But even if I haven't been updating on Fulham as the season progressed, I'd like to post an end-of-season reflection.
 
To lay the groundwork, the Cottagers were back in the Championship after a decade and a half in the top flight.  Now, I should give manager Felix Magath credit; he's a contender for the worst manager/coach I've seen in my years as a sports fan.  He was bad in a Bobby V. way, where it would be tremendously entertaining provided you hate the team he's leading.  He pulled off the most Bobby V.-esque move in the history of sports:  last season, when Brede Hangeland was diagnosed with thigh soreness, he overruled the team doctor's treatment regimen and instead had the captain put a block of cheese over the injured area.  (Needless to say, neither Hangeland nor the team doctor stuck around long after that incident.)  Like Bobby V., he's the kind of manager that shakes your allegiance and makes you question everything.
 
Under Magath's "leadership," they managed just one point out of their first seven matches, and frankly that may have been more than they deserved.  Despite big talk about a quick return to the Premiership, their lackluster made a trip down to League 1 seem more appropriate.  Mercifully, he was relieved of duty early in the season and replaced by academy coach Kit Symons.  In the first game under their caretaker manager, they showed the first signs of life all season, and they managed their first win in the next game.  Fulham quickly became one of the best teams in the division, losing only three of their next 14 matches and forcing the team to promote Symons to permanent manager.  All of a sudden, the question became whether their awful start had buried them too deep or whether they'd be able to sneak into the playoff.
 
But it was too good to be true.  They'd soon have a stretch of 11 games with just one win (in a game that they played very poorly) and three draws that dropped them into a second straight relegation battle.  The offense was struggling to put the ball in the net (they scored more than one goal only once in those 11 games), but the real problem was the porous defense.  Young goalie Marcus Betinelli accorded himself pretty well in his debut season on the first team, but he faced an onslaught.  Week after week, the defense conceded double digit shots, in large number from the most dangerous parts of the pitch.  The defense's inability to stop opposing offenses in turn afforded the offense few opportunities to attack in transition.  
 
It was pretty demoralizing – they'd have a game or two where they looked ok but still lost or drew a game they should have won.  Moral victories are great in the first half of the season, maybe, but at some point if you want to stay up (er, not fall farther down), you need points.  But as March wound down, they finally started getting some, with only one loss in their last 7 games.  Heading into the final match day of the season, they're creeping into the middle of the table.  The stretch was highlighted by a dramatic 4-3 win against Middlesborough in their final home game to end the season on an exclamation point.  (I realize the season isn't over, but at this point they could lose 0-8 to Norwich and it would still feel like ending the season on a high note.)
 
So whither Fulham as the first season back in the Championship ends?
 
At this point, conventional wisdom has Symon being sacked.  Hopefully they will be able to get a new manager quickly (something they've sometimes struggled with over the past couple of seasons).  In one encouraging sign, Tony Khan, the son of owner Shahid Khan, has admitted on twitter that the team hasn't had a great approach:  
 

And to your point, I believe that the club has made many moves that weren't supported by statistical research. That will change
 
 

It's not clear what that will actually translate to, but I expect the Khans will invest some money in the team, starting with revamping the defense over the summer.
 
One side note:  this is only my 9th season as a Fulham supporter, and my first encounter with relegation.  I wasn't sure what to expect.  Now don't get me wrong; I wish they hadn’t been relegated and were still in the top flight.  I'd love nothing more than for them to recapture the magic of the Europa league run.  It was frustrating to see all their best players leave over last summer.  But having said that, I didn't really notice much difference.  Listening to the radio stream or watching the on-line replay, the games were no less dramatic, and I was no less invested in the result.  This may seem obvious to those of you who are veterans of European soccer fandom, but it was a relief to me.
 
(Ironically, I was able to watch more games this year than I was last year despite relegation.  It's amazing how much better a broadcast experience the team can produce when it's doing it simply for the good of the fans, rather than Comcast's compulsion to drive every investment they make into the ground.  But remarkable incompetence is Comcast's specialty, so it wasn't a surprise that they could screw up the Premier League.)
 
 

DLew On Roids

guilty of being sex
Lifetime Member
SoSH Member
Aug 30, 2001
13,906
The Pine Street Inn
This is a few days old by now, but Charlton's tweet about Bournemouth was brilliant:

Bournemouth celebrating like they've completely ruled out a 19-0 defeat at The Valley on Saturday. We'll see... #cafc
— Charlton Athletic FC (@CAFCofficial) April 27, 2015
 

Titans Bastard

has sunil gulati in his sights
Lifetime Member
SoSH Member
Dec 15, 2002
14,457
We're about 10 minutes from full time across the final slate of Championship games.
 
Watford and Bournemouth both lead, so unless Wednesday nicks a late equalizer against Watford, the Hornets will take the title.
 
Middlesbrough is level, Norwich is winning, Ipswich and Derby are losing, Brentford and Wolves are winning.
 
If results hold, the playoffs will look like:
 
3. Norwich
4. Middlesbrough
5. Brentford
6. Ipswich
--
7. Wolves
8. Derby
 
with Brentford, Ipswich, and Wolves only separated by GD
 

Dummy Hoy

Angry Pissbum
SoSH Member
Jul 22, 2006
8,249
Falmouth
Good for Blackpool fans. I've always thought they were a bit of a shit club, but that was a humiliating season. 25 points and a -55 GD? Ugh.
 
And holy fuck Derby...I know their form had been shit, but a 3-0 loss at home in front of 30K to a mediocre Reading side? Sucks. They should have been up last season, now they could be going in the wrong direction.
 
Leeds game aside, not a terrible end to the season for Wednesday. Beat Brentford and drew with the top two teams in the league. Curious to see what changes the new ownership make.
 
And hey- an Old Farm Derby in the first round of the playoffs.
 

SoxFanInCali

has the rich, deep voice of a god
Lifetime Member
SoSH Member
Jun 3, 2005
15,613
California. Duh.
Franchise FC (MK Dons) won automatic promotion to the Championship (along with League One champions Bristol City) after Preston North End lost to Colchester.  PNE, Swindon Town, Sheffield United, and Chesterfield will battle in the playoff for the 3rd promotion slot.
 
I wish Milton Keynes would just drop the Dons name. They left Wimbledon 12 years ago and renounced their claim to Wimbledon FC's history in 2007. AFC Wimbledon are the Dons now.
 

Titans Bastard

has sunil gulati in his sights
Lifetime Member
SoSH Member
Dec 15, 2002
14,457
Over in Scotland, Hearts won the Championship easily -- a 21 point margin over Hibs -- and are promoted straight back to the top level.
 
The playoffs are a bit more complicated.  #4 Queen of the South plays #3 Rangers in a home-and-home series.  The winner plays a home-and-home against #2 Hibernian.  And the winner of that plays the second-from-bottom in the PL, most likely to be Motherwell.
 
 
At the very bottom of the SPFL, there is the possibility of relegation for the first time ever.  The smattering of non-league organizations in the south combined to form the Lowland League as a counterpart to the long-running Highland League in the north.  The winners of each competition enter a playoff and the winner of that plays off against the bottom club in the SPFL.  The Lowland League's Edinburgh City beat Brora Rangers and now faces Montrose.
 

DLew On Roids

guilty of being sex
Lifetime Member
SoSH Member
Aug 30, 2001
13,906
The Pine Street Inn
I'm not surprised to hear Montrose came bottom. I don't think they've finished in the top half of the fourth tier more than once or twice in the last 15 years.
 

Dummy Hoy

Angry Pissbum
SoSH Member
Jul 22, 2006
8,249
Falmouth
Boro with a 93rd minute stunner to take a 1-2 lead in the Championship playoff semis. Old Farm Derby tomorrow morning- 7:10 (est) on Bein.
 

Dummy Hoy

Angry Pissbum
SoSH Member
Jul 22, 2006
8,249
Falmouth
1-1 final this morning. Between feeding the boy and walking the dog I only saw about 1/2 the game, but it was pretty physical. Norwich seems clearly the better team, but Ipswich was very good on the counter. Solid result for the Canaries, they have to be feeling good going home next week. That said, Mick McCarthy is a very good manager and I could seem them muddling things up and stealing one on the counter.
 

Titans Bastard

has sunil gulati in his sights
Lifetime Member
SoSH Member
Dec 15, 2002
14,457
Titans Bastard said:
At the very bottom of the SPFL, there is the possibility of relegation for the first time ever.  The smattering of non-league organizations in the south combined to form the Lowland League as a counterpart to the long-running Highland League in the north.  The winners of each competition enter a playoff and the winner of that plays off against the bottom club in the SPFL.  The Lowland League's Edinburgh City beat Brora Rangers and now faces Montrose.
 
So I read too fast, and it was actually Brora Rangers who prevailed on PKs over Edinburgh City.  They won their home leg against Montrose this weekend and prevailed 1-0.  The match's sole goal came on an own goal from 39 year old Marvin Andrews, who was a member of Trinidad & Tobago's 2006 World Cup team.  At the time, he played for Rangers but in the time since he's suited up for all manner of lower level clubs in Scotland and non-league clubs in England -- the best being a club called Kirkintilloch Rob Roy.
 

SoxFanInCali

has the rich, deep voice of a god
Lifetime Member
SoSH Member
Jun 3, 2005
15,613
California. Duh.
Swindon and Sheffield United played to a 5-5 (yes, FIVE to FIVE) draw in the highest scoring match in playoff history.  Swindon goes through to the final 7-6 on aggregate and will meet Preston North End for a spot in the Championship next season.
 

Dummy Hoy

Angry Pissbum
SoSH Member
Jul 22, 2006
8,249
Falmouth
Crazy game- Swindon was up 3-0 after 18 minutes and up 5-3 in the 87th minute.
 
Yet another playoff loss for the Pigs...
 

soxfan121

JAG
Lifetime Member
SoSH Member
Dec 22, 2002
23,043
Fascinating article about Brentford (and FC Midtjylland) owner Matthew Benham, who despite being in contention for promotion to the EPL, has fired the manager, assistant manager and director of football...because analytics said so. 
 
“The table is notoriously inaccurate because there’s just way more randomness than people understand,” Benham explains. “One of the best examples is over halfway through the season in Germany, Dortmund were bottom of the league. We actually still made them the second-best team in Germany. They were just horrifically unlucky. Usually the way the fans and especially the media look at it, randomness is quite an unsatisfactory explanation, so they like to look for stories and a narrative. But very often randomness is the main explanation.”
When Brentford was in fifth place, Benham said, his mathematical model showed the club was actually the 11th-best team in the Championship. What’s more, Warburton, Weir and McParland were chafing under some of Benham’s data-driven preferences. And so, even if Brentford is able to turn around its Championship playoff semifinal against Middlesboro on Friday (‘Boro leads 2-1 after the first leg) and eventually earn a remarkable promotion to the Premier League, Warburton, Weir and McParland will be looking for new jobs this summer.
“One lesson I’ve learned is if you go to a manager and say you’ve been unlucky and you actually deserve to be higher, that’s actually quite an easy message to give to a manager, naturally enough,” Benham says. “But if you say to a manager, ‘You’ve been lucky, you deserve to be lower,’ that’s actually an incredibly difficult message for the manager to swallow.”
 
 

Dummy Hoy

Angry Pissbum
SoSH Member
Jul 22, 2006
8,249
Falmouth
Next year we have a Championship only thread.
 
South End wins a 7-6 PK battle to bump up to League One  :barf: (that's in reference to League One, not South End.)
 

Dummy Hoy

Angry Pissbum
SoSH Member
Jul 22, 2006
8,249
Falmouth
Good luck tomorrow (today I guess) SJH. Selfishly I'd like you to lose so that the Championship talk on this board is a little better, but I know how I would be feeling were Wednesday at Wembley tomorrow.
 
 
Status
Not open for further replies.