2017-18 NBA Regular Season Game/Observation Thread

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Funny you should mention that. Kings with a 13 point lead at the start of the fourth. I cannot turn this game off now.
I'm watching it too. I have no faith in the Kings at all, but they're hanging tough.

I've watched a shitload of shitty basketball this season, and right now I think that Sacramento and Orlando are the two worst teams in the league, with the Lakers and Atlanta one little step above. And then a whole bunch not too far ahead of them.
 

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Funny you should mention that. Kings with a 13 point lead at the start of the fourth. I cannot turn this game off now.
I know RPM has him as the worst PG in the league this year, but Fox had looked solid this game. Running the offense, finding teammates with the right pass, has a nice shooting stroke.
 

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The deal is there have been recent studies showing that marginally increasing rest can marginally decrease the risk of injury. It's why big stars almost never play 38-40 mpg anymore. More anecdotally, those increases in rest also tend to play big dividends in terms of late-season and playoff performance. The one time LeBron managed to get past the Warriors was the season where he took two weeks off midseason, came back totally refreshed, and beasted all the way through the 2016 finals. In the 2015 playoffs, he put up .487 true shooting trying to carry his depleted team as the Warriors army of young, 6'-8" guys ran roughshod over him. In 2017, KD — who had had a month of rest before the playoffs — scored on him like he wasn't there (35 ppg on .700 true shooting).

He's now 33, with (currently) a pretty big margin to close on the Raptors and Celtics, let alone the Warriors. I'd think he'd embrace any marginal edge he could get. He's an incredibly smart guy, though — I imagine he's trying to balance the need for more rest with the need to integrate IT and get the whole team playing at a much higher level.
Not that they don't provide any value but we don't need new studies to tell us rest is good. I'm sure LeBron and his team of trainers know this. My point is more to what you said last, which is LeBron is a smart guy when it comes to his chosen profession. I'm sure he's well aware of the risk and need for rest.

I'm probably just being an ahole about it but it annoys the hell out of me when I read/hear people preaching about LeBron's rest. I think the guys who's been to the finals 7 times is well aware of what it takes and what he needs left in the tank.
 

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Hornets favoured by 2.5 pts in Staples tonight.

Looking forward to a couple of Laker losses over the next 3 home games and some honest commentary from LaVar.
1. loss to Hornets ... check
2. inflammatory comments from Lavar ... check
3. losses to Atlanta and Sacremento on their way

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/21991857/lavar-ball-says-los-angeles-lakers-coach-luke-walton-lost-team

The beat reporters for the Lakers will be hounding Walton, Magic, players about Lavar's comments.

Get the popcorn out, sit back and enjoy Showtime.
 
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Another thing worth noting about Lebron is his free throw attempts per game are down this year. Currently tied with his rookie year for the lowest in a season.
 

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Unfortunately he has missed 1/3 of the season to date
True. Although pretty insanely, despite missing a third of the season, he still leads the NBA — including all his teammates — in total plus-minus (+326).

(Fwiw, Durant is #6 at +254 and LeBron is #57 at +99).
 
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The Cavs played one of the worst teams in the NBA on three days' rest, with their full, healthy squad and a ton of motivation to show what they're made of after a rough stretch capped by an embarrassing loss to the Celtics. And went out and gave up 127 points to the #26 ranked offense in the NBA.

I mean, they should feel pretty good that they're finally healthy, and that IT looks great, but they've got a lot of work to get to the level of an elite team right now. Teams with #28-ranked defenses and +2.5 net ratings tend not to end well.
You really feel that the Cavs were super motivated to "show what they're made of" in an early January game on the road versus a league doormat?

They went through the motions and took care of business with a road win. Despite LeBron's 38 minutes he probably didn't exert half the energy as most of the Orlando regulars.
 

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Orlando is probably the worst team in the NBA. They should be looking to unload Vucevic again, and he'll probably have more value than last year since he added the 3 point shot. On the bright side, at least it looks like Aaron Gordon's shot is for real. Elfrid has been hitting the 3 too but incredibly small sample size.

Seriously wouldn't be shocked at all to see Orlando finish with the worst record in the NBA. 4-24 their last 28 games.
 

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You really feel that the Cavs were super motivated to "show what they're made of" in an early January game on the road versus a league doormat?
I mean I can’t be sure, but yeah: my sense is that the game after getting spanked on national TV by their #1 rival, with two days to stew on it and listen to the national media crap on them, they’d be a bit more juiced than usual, regardless of the lameness of their opponent.

Basically I’m saying “the Cavs are not that great” (yet?) is a more plausible explanation for why the Magic game was close than “they went through the motions.” If their net rating on the season suggested they were anything resembling a great team, I’d lean towards the latter.
 
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For those on mobile, Kawhi has a shoulder tear. He is out tonight but may play this week depending on how it progresses.
 

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15-2 run by the Mavericks to tie it up against the Knicks with a 1:28 left in the fourth.

Edit: still tied with a minute left.
 

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Suns up 15 on OKC with 7:42 left. Dragan Bender has 20 pts on 7-9 shooting (6-8 from 3), 6 rbs, 4 assists, 3 blocked shots, and 1 steal. Kind of the game everyone saw for him when he was drafted. Could have been the Cavs too.

Josh Jackson, even though he was benched for his offensive struggles, has put up more shots than anyone on the Suns, going 6-18 (2-5 from 3). Suns really need his defense though.
 

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Dragan the Bender 6 for 8 from 3 tonight against thunder, Josh Jackson 3-6 from 3, both having a Kelly O against the Celtics kind of night.

Suns up 18 in the 4th. Love these no defense games, eh?
 

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At least we don’t have to worry about the Lakers landing in the #1 pole position. But looking at their schedule, there are several potential wins coming up.
 

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As long as we're giving love to 40 y.o. Vince Carter, I think some love is also in order for 40 y.o. Manu, who dropped 26 tonight (9-16 fg) in a one-point loss to the Blazers.

No disrespect to the greatness of Vinsanity but imho Manu's better than Vince now, was better at their respective peaks, and has had a better overall career (despite playing significantly fewer minutes).
 
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As long as we're giving love to 40 y.o. Vince Carter, I think some love is also in order for 40 y.o. Manu, who dropped 26 tonight (9-16 fg) in a one-point loss to the Blazers.

No disrespect to the greatness of Vinsanity but imho Manu's better than Vince now, was better at their respective peaks, and has had a better overall career (despite playing significantly fewer minutes).
Manu is going to have his Paul Pierce moment this postseason and win a game at the buzzer. Kawhi really needs to get healthy. With Aldridge back to playing well, the Spurs with a healthy Kawhi/Aldridge/Parker leading the way with Manu/Gay off the bench would be a tough out for Golden State. Just give me this basketball gods!
 

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As long as we're giving love to 40 y.o. Vince Carter, I think some love is also in order for 40 y.o. Manu, who dropped 26 tonight (9-16 fg) in a one-point loss to the Blazers.

No disrespect to the greatness of Vinsanity but imho Manu's better than Vince now, was better at their respective peaks, and has had a better overall career (despite playing significantly fewer minutes).
Manu chose his teammates and organization better than Vince. Vince was the better athlete and the better scorer, but he didn't make his teammates better. Manu did.
 

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I mean I can’t be sure, but yeah: my sense is that the game after getting spanked on national TV by their #1 rival, with two days to stew on it and listen to the national media crap on them, they’d be a bit more juiced than usual, regardless of the lameness of their opponent.

Basically I’m saying “the Cavs are not that great” (yet?) is a more plausible explanation for why the Magic game was close than “they went through the motions.” If their net rating on the season suggested they were anything resembling a great team, I’d lean towards the latter.
We have these same conversations every year though. Remember post-deadline last winter when the Cavs were left for dead while implementing 5 new players into their rotation? Their regular season is essentially their pre-season to prepare for the playoffs. Net rating in the regular season for veteran teams with little motivation is worthless as we saw with them last season.