2017 Belichick Breakdowns
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Seems from some of this breakdown as though Clay was a real point of emphasis for the defense this week. He only ended up with 4 catches for 37 yards despite 11 targets, though he did drop an easy TD. Seferian-Jenkins was pretty effective last time, so hopefully they can keep him in check this week like they did with Clay.
The Patriots have been a mixed bag against the tight end this year. Not a ton of yards and only five touchdowns, but that's a bit misleading given that they really haven't played a top player at the position other than Kelce, and given that they've been very fortunate that tight ends seem prone to juggling balls and dropping them in the end zone this year against the Patriots.
Chung has quietly made some really nice plays this year -- top 10 in the league for passes defensed (9), which also ties his career high -- a few of the spectacular variety. If he can help keep Seferian-Jenkins in check, it will go a long way toward keeping their offense off the field and forcing them into third and long where Powell is a bit less of a weapon. From the way the Patriots seem to have game planned for Clay, hopefully their game planning for last week will carry over a bit.
The Patriots have been a mixed bag against the tight end this year. Not a ton of yards and only five touchdowns, but that's a bit misleading given that they really haven't played a top player at the position other than Kelce, and given that they've been very fortunate that tight ends seem prone to juggling balls and dropping them in the end zone this year against the Patriots.
Chung has quietly made some really nice plays this year -- top 10 in the league for passes defensed (9), which also ties his career high -- a few of the spectacular variety. If he can help keep Seferian-Jenkins in check, it will go a long way toward keeping their offense off the field and forcing them into third and long where Powell is a bit less of a weapon. From the way the Patriots seem to have game planned for Clay, hopefully their game planning for last week will carry over a bit.
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Yes, that was awesome. The game moves too fast to catch stuff like that. I did like how BB called him "Francois" and Socci called him "Ricky Jean", even though his last name is "Jean Francois."
Ricky Barkley Jean-Francois is his full name.
According to his Wikipedia page he is known for his PBJ Dance.... hope we see it in the playoffs !
According to his Wikipedia page he is known for his PBJ Dance.... hope we see it in the playoffs !
My favorite part was BB talking about McCoy blocking on the double CB blitz. “Here’s McCoy blocking...kind of”
That's a great dance, but it's no "Peanut Butter Jelly Time".
My sense of early internet memes is greatly offended by this appropriation.
I took that as more of a shout-out to Lewis, who has apparently improved his ball control skills since his nearly disastrous (thank you, Brock Osweiller!) fumble in last year's AFC Divisional Round game against Houston.
Im sorry this probably isn't the right place for this but I love this.
http://www.patriots.com/video/2017/12/29/nfl-films-presents-bill-belichick-and-rick-forzano
http://www.patriots.com/video/2017/12/29/nfl-films-presents-bill-belichick-and-rick-forzano
Phenomenal. Outside of New England BB really is a misunderstood individual. Thank you for sharing that.
that was fantastic. thanks for posting. I only knew the bio line "BB had his first coaching job with the Lions under Rick Forzano...."
I remember when Forzano was with the Lions. He seemed to be a caretaker, because he was an assistant until the head guy died during the summer.
They were always mediocre, but had Charlie Sanders, who was awesome.
So many things about that video.
First is that TB12 showed up. I'm no psychologist but if he and BB were really as detached as the speculators would suggest (only a business relationship), I have trouble seeing that scene play out.
Second, BB's kids especially the one thanking Forzano. Could you see either of the Trump thugs doing that?
Lastly just realizing that BB's intro to the game came from all these relationships through his father - you wonder how many brilliant minds in coaching trees that don't have famous coaching fathers struggle to get into decision making circles.
First is that TB12 showed up. I'm no psychologist but if he and BB were really as detached as the speculators would suggest (only a business relationship), I have trouble seeing that scene play out.
Second, BB's kids especially the one thanking Forzano. Could you see either of the Trump thugs doing that?
Lastly just realizing that BB's intro to the game came from all these relationships through his father - you wonder how many brilliant minds in coaching trees that don't have famous coaching fathers struggle to get into decision making circles.
Right, if you'd asked ten-year-old me to go break down football film, I would've told you to pound sand, I had some Legend of Zelda that needed playing! I have a feeling that most ten year olds who have an appreciation for the tactical side of the game of gridiron football, enough that studying it would be "play" to them, will find a way to express that - even if they don't have successful football-coach dads. They might not get the same depth of education, they might not be in the same position to take a $25-a-week "assistant grunt" position with the Colts, but sooner or later they'll find their way to the game.
BB having a historical appreciation for the game, his influences in it, and his role in it, is one of the best and most fascinating aspects of his style. I wonder whether it's more cause or more effect of his success. Either way, that's a great clip. Was frankly surprised to not see Kraft in it (though I realize the stadium visit part was an away game that he might not have attended).
BB having a historical appreciation for the game, his influences in it, and his role in it, is one of the best and most fascinating aspects of his style. I wonder whether it's more cause or more effect of his success. Either way, that's a great clip. Was frankly surprised to not see Kraft in it (though I realize the stadium visit part was an away game that he might not have attended).
Well, to be honest I couldn't see Trump getting a mention in a thread about Belichick Breakdowns, but thankfully you came along.
On the Quick Slants podcast following the Steelers game, Jerod Mayo attributed it to bad angles taken by McCourty and another DB (can’t remember which one) that prevented JJSS from being pushed out of bounds as he neared the sideline.
A guy who was a HC in the NFL for only 2 years is the link between Belichick and Paul Brown. I had no idea there was such a link. But I guess it shouldn't be surprising.
Jets video is up. http://www.patriots.com/video/2018/01/03/belichick-breakdown-top-plays-against-jets
Belichick a couple times refers to "leverage and tackling", anyone care to explain to me what leverage means here?
Interesting to see 3 of the highlights show Butler with good penetration up the middle (getting held as well), nice to see such production from the UDFA.
Belichick a couple times refers to "leverage and tackling", anyone care to explain to me what leverage means here?
Interesting to see 3 of the highlights show Butler with good penetration up the middle (getting held as well), nice to see such production from the UDFA.
Which side of the player you're covering you're biasing your positioning towards. Inside leverage means you're trying to be 2-3 feet closer to the center-line of the field than your guy, so that you can get position to make a play on any inside-breaking route. Outside leverage means the opposite, you're trying to over-cover the out-breaking routes (perhaps because you have help on the inside). When guarding a gunner on a kick, you're able to force them one direction or the other, as determined by your positioning relative to them (leverage). At least until they make it past you.
How could you guys not mention the Wally Pipp bit at the end by Zolak? That was quite the easter egg.
Wow, incredible piece. Great story and footage. In every way possible, BB gets it.
Maybe they don't know who Wally Pipp is - OH MY GOD WES WELKER IS POSTING ON SOSH!!!
Helps keep me warm this time of year: Jets middle linebacker one on one with Dion. Fat’a chance’a.
"James just puts his head down, kind of like he did in the Atlanta game last year."
That's the superbowl winning touchdown he's referring to. The man is a robot.
That's the superbowl winning touchdown he's referring to. The man is a robot.
Man, the Slater stuff is fascinating to watch and listen to BB talk about. Also, watching the kickoff on the zoomed out level and watching how fast these guys hurtle are each other on that field... man, it's like watching fighter jets in a furball.
Also, on the first sack of Mariota, seeing Van Noy act like he was going to engage just long enough to keep the OL on his side from getting over to block the other guys, then moving to blanket the running back, with excellent coverage, was really cool. I'm not nearly as up to speed on how all this stuff works, but I feel like that was a big part of that play.
Also, on the first sack of Mariota, seeing Van Noy act like he was going to engage just long enough to keep the OL on his side from getting over to block the other guys, then moving to blanket the running back, with excellent coverage, was really cool. I'm not nearly as up to speed on how all this stuff works, but I feel like that was a big part of that play.
8+ minutes of Jags highlights:
http://www.patriots.com/video/2018/01/19/belestrator-previewing-jacksonville-jaguars
http://www.patriots.com/video/2018/01/19/belestrator-previewing-jacksonville-jaguars
You got the wrong link, it's here:
http://www.patriots.com/video/2018/01/24/belichick-breakdown-afc-championship
http://www.patriots.com/video/2018/01/24/belichick-breakdown-afc-championship
These are so good. Love Dwayne Allen basically blocking three guys on Dion's clinching run. Not sure which Pats reporter retweeted this, but the gif of Harrison's rip move on the strip sack is pretty cool. He basically submited the LT:
I've never played football, but I have some martial arts training, and I always thought that defensive linemen should learn judo or aikido or something because I envision moves like what Harrison did - as the OL gets his hands on you, there are so many ways to quickly and decisively get them off you and get the other guy off balance. Harrison could have broken that guys arm at the elbow in the blink of an eye if the OL didn't disengage. Not that that's what you're looking to do (break the guy's arm) but you could definitely get him to move how you want him to move.
I seem to recall that Andre Tippett attributed much of his success to his karate training. IIRC, he was a 4th degree black belt while an active player.
Yes. I think he attributed it more than discipline and focus, though, and less his ability to maim opponents with stealthy ninja strikes invisible to the referees.
Yeah, my sensei approves of that move by Harrison. I've always wondered the same thing, I think particularly kung-fu would be great for linemen. I'm not sure about aikido, it's beautiful but very slow-developing. But definitely something with joint manipulation and an emphasis on blocking.
I remember the revelation I had when I was taught - I think in college - that you can get someone's hand off of you, no matter how strong they are, by simply taking their pinky and pulling it back, and the rest of the hand will follow as an instinct. The first of many lessons about how technique matters far more than strength. But yeah there are dozens of martial arts moves I'd love to see linemen trying out, and some of them would even be legal.
Wrestling (especially Greco) and Judo. I don’t really see any other traditional martial arts helping.
Edit: as for the Harrison move, it’s basically an arm drag, could you break an arm like that, maybe, but the guy could just go around Harrison ( he wouldn’t do that in a football game because it would be holding).
Edit2: btw, I assume you guys know, but Stephen Neal didn’t play college football. He was a big time collegiate wrestler and made your squad.
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Yeah for sure. It just seems like it couldn't hurt, first of all, but that it could also have huge benefits. Even if it leads to just one or two more sacks a year, that could be enormous.
Yep, I'm well aware of Stephen Neal. And Aikido is a martial art that could be applied, I think. Harrison's very first move, the way he got the LTs hand, is something you could easily learn in Aikido.
You all may enjoy this story from NYT. Didn't realize that the idea was originally Belichick's
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/30/sports/football/patriots-belichick-zolak.html?action=click&contentCollection=Pro Football&module=RelatedCoverage®ion=EndOfArticle&pgtype=article
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/30/sports/football/patriots-belichick-zolak.html?action=click&contentCollection=Pro Football&module=RelatedCoverage®ion=EndOfArticle&pgtype=article