Honest question - why?I don't give a shit whether it has legs, and didn't say it would.
I simply said I think it's a mistake.
I guess it is partially an an age thing. I hear "Tom Terrific" and I only think about Seaver; so, perhaps outside of people in my age range, baseball fans, and those in New York, I doubt it would have any resonance. With Seaver's degenerating illness, though, it just adds a layer of icky optics to the situation.Honest question - why?
I don’t see anything in the article but does Seaver have any kind of copyright on it? Because otherwise (no offense meant here) if you said ‘Tom Terrific’ to anyone under, I dunno, 50 (?) years old, they have no idea they called him Tom Terrific or at very least don’t care. It’s not exactly ‘The Great One’ or ‘Air Something’.
It's tacky in general. It's worse with a sick Seaver, which I didn't know about or forgot. It's small potatoes, but unnecessary bad optics.I guess it is partially an an age thing. I hear "Tom Terrific" and I only think about Seaver; so, perhaps outside of people in my age range, baseball fans, and those in New York, I doubt it would have any resonance. With Seaver's degenerating illness, though, it just adds a layer of icky optics to the situation.
In general, though, I've never been a fan of players or teams trademarking phrases to apply to themselves, particularly if those phrases or nicknames already have associations with others.
Each to their own. Like I said, it just seems like a rare mistake (to me) on his part
Riley copyrighted it, that would be kinda dumb, but sure.Not a great look ripping off a guy with Alzheimers.
Maybe next year he can go for "3-peat"
fuck Pat Riley, but leave Seaver be.
Well seeing that Tom "Terrrific" Seaver hasn't pitched for the Mets in about 43 years, its not surprising that you are not familiar with the nick-name he earned on the playing fields of Shea. But it was clearly his nick-name.Riley copyrighted it, that would be kinda dumb, but sure.
I’ll be 40 by end of year. I don’t think I’d ever heard of Tom Seaver being called that, never associated it with him and didn’t know he was sick. Despite being a pretty big sports fan I’d have thought nothing of it.
Brady has been called that for a while now by mainstream media. It’s a generational thing to get upset, but as noted, to each their own and it’s just mho. Brady isn’t selling to (again, no offense meant) the generation that finds it offensive and it’s not like he’s trying to jump on an icon; I highly doubt even he knew Seaver has Alzheimer’s. The tacky part is on the Mets for making it anything to begin with but to each their own.
I think trademarking one's own nickname is a fairly recent phenomenon. (Although I havent researched the say hey kid or splendid splinter.)Early 40s here, never even knew Tom Terrific was associated with Seaver. He probably should have trademarked it himself. Frankly, I dont care if NY hates him more (although given the uproar, justified or not, I suspect they pull the filing).
Not on this topic I'm not. Seaver was my first sports hero growing up in upstate NY and being a Jets/Mets fan. When I settled in Boston and transitioned to the Red Sox in the mid-80's, having Seaver join them eased that transition. (Still wish he had been able to complete the 86 season and pitch for them in the WS, that would have been beyond awesome.)
My dude, I have some shocking news for you about what year it is presently ...As an aside it is amazing to me how many of the hyped up "faces of baseball" when I began follwoing the psort in the 70s have fallen out of the public consciousness. Steve Garvy. Pete Rose, Tom Seaver were the faces of baseball. I suppose the information revolution has made playing in New York or LA less important, but if you read baseball magazines, the Sporting News (which was all a kid in Canada could do as a fan then) Seaver and Garvey were untouchables. "Tom Terrific" was used in virtually any reference to Seaver other than boxscores. To imagine the Hype imagine if Jeter really was the best player for in the game for 4 years and the best at his position over a decade or more.
And tbh, I dont recall hearing Brady referred to that way very often.
I’ve never heard Brady referred to as Tom Terrific. Ever. TB12, sure. The GOAT, absolutely. Never Tom Terrific. Seaver? Yes. That was his nickname, as lame as it is.
It's been at least a decade:I've never associated "Tom Terrific" with Brady. I don't recall him ever referred to that way either. The only guy I've ever heard it associated with is Seaver.
You're right Brady applying for a trademark really isn't a big deal, but this is really an awful take especially on a baseball centric board. Seaver wasn't some obscure player and he was relevant in what really isn't the distant past. On the actual business side of this, yes most people who intend to register for a trademark would actually do a tiny bit of research to see if there were potential issues with getting the trademark granted. The red flags on getting this approved are obvious and Brady deserves every bit of crap he's getting if for no other reason than employing whoever greenlit the application without anticipating the potential reaction.Also, I get he's got more money than he can ever spend between him and his wife, but I'd love to see one of you in his position say "Hey, before we do this, let's go back 50 years, pull up the microfiche, see if anyone was known under that nickname, check his health currently and with the team he played for, I don't want to look bad to the generation my marketing team isn't targeting."
Chris Russo criticized Brady last night on his XM show.Is he getting crap? I haven't heard of this story anywhere except in this thread.
Anyway, if it pisses of Mets and Jets fans, all the better. It's a fucking nickname, who gives a shit?
He should just trademark it and then license it out to Seaver for $1. Based on my extensive knowledge of copyright law I believe this is the best approach.