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The Nationals and Stephen Strasburg are in agreement on a deal, a person with knowledge of the situation just confirmed.
He is SO valuable to the organization though. And has been for a long time. I am sure he is worth the money to the Nats.That is a shocking deal for Strasburg. Holy shit. 2 years older than Cole. Way more injury prone.
Also good news for Scott Boras who represents both along with RendonThat's gotta be good news for Cole also.
Strasburg is only 4 months younger than Kershaw.That is a shocking deal for Strasburg. Holy shit. 2 years older than Cole. Way more injury prone.
I agree. I think he was worth more to the Nats than he would have been to any other team. They don't only sign Strasburg, they don't LOSE him. They keep their big three intact for a couple more seasons.He is SO valuable to the organization though. And has been for a long time. I am sure he is worth the money to the Nats.
Huge for the Nats to be able to retain him. Keeps them a viable World Series contender for the next few years.
Yeah I was actually at Nats Park on Saturday night at this Christmas light maze that took place on the field called Enchant DC (it was a ton of fun). And I was looking around the stadium and there were huge images of him up on the wall, and there were selling Strasburg jerseys next to their holiday ticket package booth. Made me feel like he wasn't going anywhere.I agree. I think he was worth more to the Nats than he would have been to any other team. They don't only sign Strasburg, they don't LOSE him. They keep their big three intact for a couple more seasons.
I can't see it. How many year past seven would a team want to go?Wow. So at this point it’s basically a certainty that Cole will break $300M.
Possibly, but at fewer years.Will Cole be the first $40 Million Dollar Man?
I'm not sure they have young players coming up that are going to need t be paid.Yeah I was actually at Nats Park on Saturday night at this Christmas light maze that took place on the field called Enchant DC (it was a ton of fun). And I was looking around the stadium and there were huge images of him up on the wall, and there were selling Strasburg jerseys next to their holiday ticket package booth. Made me feel like he wasn't going anywhere.
I think they make a big push for Rendon too.
Gotta agree that Price at 3/$96M doesn't seem quite as crazy.Strasburg's deal helps Cole, I agree. More importantly for us, though, it has to make Price's contract more attractive to a trade partner. Not that they'll pay full freight, but what we have to throw in (money/players) will, hopefully, decrease. 7 years for any pitcher, especially one with an extensive injury history is nuts and I'm a huge fan of Strasburg.
How do they keep Rendon with Strasburg’s deal? Personally, I would have focused all of my attention on Rendon, not Stras.Jesse Dougherty
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Source: The terms of Stephen Strasburg's deal with the Nationals is seven years for $245 million.
Cool. I wanted to go, but forecasted rain (didn’t arrive ’til late in PM) and prices for last minute tickets kept me away. Bah humbug!Yeah I was actually at Nats Park on Saturday night at this Christmas light maze that took place on the field called Enchant DC (it was a ton of fun). And I was looking around the stadium and there were huge images of him up on the wall, and there were selling Strasburg jerseys next to their holiday ticket package booth. Made me feel like he wasn't going anywhere.
I think they make a big push for Rendon too.
They don’t. Their owner already said publicly they can’t afford both. Rendon is gone.How do they keep Rendon with Strasburg’s deal?
I recommend going. It will be going on for awhile. It's a cool experience.Cool. I wanted to go, but forecasted rain (didn’t arrive ’til late in PM) and prices for last minute tickets kept me away. Bah humbug!
Who plays second? I don’t think they can count on Kendrick for 162.yea that means they probably move kieboom over to 3b and run with him next season.
Was overpriced, extremely crowded and tacky. I’d save your money.Cool. I wanted to go, but forecasted rain (didn’t arrive ’til late in PM) and prices for last minute tickets kept me away. Bah humbug!
As a fan you should feel very happy. Because while very few players remain productive for the life of contracts like that, they are the only way to take advantage of the Yankees' massive revenue advantage.I don't even know how to feel yet if the Yankees sign someone for a $300m contract. Someone tell me how to feel.
This is a major misunderstanding of the current game, IMO. In recent years, NY has poured more and more money into strengthening their operations behind the scenes, as this is the real way to take advantage of their revenues, without being punished by the CBA. I just read some specifics on this recently and will post again if I remember where.they are the only way to take advantage of the Yankees' massive revenue advantage.
I still don't think it will be quite $300M, but I guess it depends how crazy Moreno is. The Angels IMO would be way better off signing both Bumgarner and Ryu for less combined than Cole will get, but sanity does not always prevail in these situations.I don't even know how to feel yet if the Yankees sign someone for a $300m contract. Someone tell me how to feel.
And if they didn't, what else would they have done with the revenue? Sink 240 million into operations? Minus some relatively small amount they would spend there, the basic choices for the most part are 1) go with a lower payroll, or 2) spend on a different, but equally risky, set of free agents. If the Red Sox could make David Price's deal disappear, yay, they could pay someone else on a deal that would look bad in 4 years.The top 15 MLB contracts of all time as of today:
1. Mike Trout, $426,500,000 (2019-30)
2. Bryce Harper, $330,000,000 (2019-31)
3. Giancarlo Stanton, $325,000,000 (2015-27)
4. Manny Machado, $300,000,000 (2019-28)
5. Alex Rodriguez, $275,000,000 (2008-17)
6. Nolan Arenado, $260,000,000 (2019-26)
7. Alex Rodriguez, $252,000,000 (2001-10)
8. Miguel Cabrera, $248,000,000 (2016-23)
9. Stephen Strasburg $245,000,000 (2020-26)
10. Albert Pujols, $240,000,000 (2012-21)
… Robinson Cano, $240,000,000 (2014-23)
12. Joey Votto, $225,000,000 (2014-23)
13. David Price, $217,000,000 (2016-22)
14. Clayton Kershaw, $215,000,000 (2014-20)
15. Prince Fielder, $214,000,000 (2012-20)
How many of those would the teams do again if they had the choice?
I think that's mostly right, but 1) I think you underestimate how much money can be poured into non-payroll spending and 2) the roster flexibility you lose with a big salary guy who can't be optioned. The Angels and Tigers can't do anything with Pujols and Cabrera currently except play them or release them, and since they don't want to take the PR hits for the latter, they can't try out other players in those spots and maybe stumble onto a cheap gem. Chris Davis is another one, dunno why more teams don't just bite the bullet and release these guys.And if they didn't, what else would they have done with the revenue? Sink 240 million into operations? Minus some relatively small amount they would spend there, the basic choices for the most part are 1) go with a lower payroll, or 2) spend on a different, but equally risky, set of free agents. If the Red Sox could make David Price's deal disappear, yay, they could pay someone else on a deal that would look bad in 4 years.
It's the cost of doing business.
As Jon listed above, you already have one guy with a $300m contract,I don't even know how to feel yet if the Yankees sign someone for a $300m contract. Someone tell me how to feel.
Not really though, his AAV is $22M for NY, so his remaining deal is 8/176, 10/220 from the time they traded for him.As Jon listed above, you already have one guy with a $300m contract,
Everybody thought Jeter did the Yankees a big favor trading him to NY. In the long run It might turn out that the deal favors Jeter's team a lot more.Not really though, his AAV is $22M for NY, so his remaining deal is 8/176, 10/220 from the time they traded for him.
I think there is a decent chance of this, but even with the lost season and fear of future injury, I still like Stanton quite a bit at 22m per.Everybody thought Jeter did the Yankees a big favor trading him to NY. In the long run It might turn out that the deal favors Jeter's team a lot more.
Yeah, I think so too. The Yankees have been holding back their checkbook for a few offseasons now (aside from the Stanton trade). Go all in on a guy like this. They need an ace, they have needed an ace for years.If they win a couple World Series during the life of the contract it's all worth it.
Yep. But....there's certainly a shock factor here.I'm all for it too but a nine year deal is going to suck at some point. If they can keep unearthing cheap good players like Voit and Urshela and Tauchman though, it makes it a lot easier to stomach.
That's what I was saying, they have so many holes. Sign Bumgarner and Ryu for less combined than Cole, you could even probably sign Keuchel too for that money.i really dont see how that makes sense for the Angels. For the Yankees, it makes yall the favorite to win it all next year and even the next few years. The Angels might as well dive headfirst into the secondary market and hope Ohtani becomes an ace. Get Bumgarner on a 5 year deal and try to get Keuchel maybe. That team is not once ace away from a WS team. They need ptching depth