2019 ALCS - Yankees vs. Astros - General Gamethread

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Keep that RF swing going Carlos, you'll love it in YS.

If Brantley and Alvarez can figure some things out in the next few days that would really help Houston win this.
 

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Yes Fox, Carlos Correa is really damn good. That play in the field was sick, the HR was beastly and the styling out of the box was earned.

"Yankees Suck!"
 

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Once again, this series is over. The Yankees haven't lost a lead or a game yet in these playoffs if you don't count what happened at the start and end of this game.
Not mention that the Astros can only afford to lose twice more in the series, while the Yankees just need to win three more
 

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Also could have gotten out of the jam like he’s done many times in the regular season. Even if he goes 3 or 4, it’s less outs for the pen to get.
Right, but they got out of the inning and the pen only gave up 1 run in 7.2 innings before the walk off. Paxton could have given up 3 runs and then it doesn't matter how many outs the pen has to get. This loss had nothing to do with pulling Paxton in the 3rd. Boone was clearly prepared to do this coming into the game as he also had Green warming in the 2nd I believe. Rested pen with a day off coming, I don't see the issue.
 

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Right, but they got out of the inning and the pen only gave up 1 run in 7.2 innings before the walk off. Paxton could have given up 3 runs and then it doesn't matter how many outs the pen has to get. This loss had nothing to do with pulling Paxton in the 3rd. Boone was clearly prepared to do this coming into the game as he also had Green warming in the 2nd I believe. Rested pen with a day off coming, I don't see the issue.
It worked tonight, but it is not a recipe for consistent success. Boone has had a short leash for starters in the postseason except for Tanaka in G1. With 3 games in 3 days he’s going to have to let starters go longer to save the pen. Paxton in my opinion was not as bad tonight as everyone makes it out to be. I honestly think he had a good shot to get out of that jam with his swing and miss stuff.
 

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Astros vs. James Paxton: 4 for 9

Astros vs. Yankees relievers: 2 for 27 before the Correa walkoff

Pulling Paxton was the right move, not trying for an inning or two more from Britton/Chapman was the mistake. Or if you know you’re going to do that, you have to stick with earlier guys who look good longer, like Green or Kahnle.
 

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It worked tonight, but it is not a recipe for consistent success. Boone has had a short leash for starters in the postseason except for Tanaka in G1. With 3 games in 3 days he’s going to have to let starters go longer to save the pen. Paxton in my opinion was not as bad tonight as everyone makes it out to be. I honestly think he had a good shot to get out of that jam with his swing and miss stuff.
Of course it's not something he'd do every game. It takes the right circumstances. If this were Game 3 he likely doesn't do this as there's 2 more games on b2b nights coming. Paxton was giving up hard contact (three balls over 104, including the Bregman missile in the 2nd that nearly got out) and only got 6 whiffs in 51 pitches while walking 2 hitters. I don't see what makes you think he had a good shot vs Bregman after Bregman jumped all over him in the 2nd and rarely whiffs. Not to mention he absolutely destroys lefties.
 

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Boone pulling Paxton was a win-now move that nearly worked. The mfy bullpen was fantastic, as it has been, and with a day off tomorrow, it shouldn't have ramifications. But if he does something similar in the upcoming games with a similar result, it could certainly affect them later in the series. For now, though, it's hard to criticize.
 

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has anyone else watched that home run a million times? that sound off the bat is a beautiful thing. there are few things more fun to watch than an obvious walk-off HR in the playoffs against the NY Yankees. this will be a long hard-fought series but that home run was a joy to behold
 

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Astros vs. James Paxton: 4 for 9

Astros vs. Yankees relievers: 2 for 27 before the Correa walkoff

Pulling Paxton was the right move, not trying for an inning or two more from Britton/Chapman was the mistake. Or if you know you’re going to do that, you have to stick with earlier guys who look good longer, like Green or Kahnle.
Britton was a little surprising. But the key to the game may have been the Astros taking tough pitches and hitting foul balls against Chapman even though he looked nasty. Even if you think Chapman can go two in the abstract, once he gets to 25 pitches it gets hard to bring him in to the 10th when you know you still need at least six outs,
 

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Well played, well managed game by both sides. Just a good hit by a good player at the end. Hope it goes 7.
 

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I didn't watch the game, but watched the highlights just now.
Looked a lot like Torres faked reaching out to that
dying liner to altuve that correa threw home. I hope that was the reason for the Dikembe from Correa.

Can't blame Boone for a quick hook with that bullpen rested and ready. Forced Astros bullpen to be very good to hang on long enough.
 

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given that the Astros may have picked up tipping on Paxton, I have no problem with the pen usage.

the real problem is Adam Ottavino has gone from righty killer to a huge liability. He's supposed to be the 3rd best reliever in that pen, if not 2nd best.
 

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Boone pulling Paxton was a win-now move that nearly worked. The mfy bullpen was fantastic, as it has been, and with a day off tomorrow, it shouldn't have ramifications. But if he does something similar in the upcoming games with a similar result, it could certainly affect them later in the series. For now, though, it's hard to criticize.
I can only applaud Boone’s attempt to bury them last night. One move went sideways — the Astros were able to run Chapman’s pitch count to 25 or so in one inning. I think Boone at that point got scared.
 

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Wednesday night in NY looks like a complete washout so that could really benefit Houston. Given their options at starters for Game 4, Grienke would be available on regular rest for Game 4 if it's on Thursday and Verlander regular rest for Game 5.

Also, if there is a Friday game it would be in the afternoon if there is an NLCS Game 6.
 

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Sorry if it has already been mentioned, but the reason Correra pointed his finger in the air for the entire time around the bases was because he promised a kid in the hospital he would:

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These young players are disrespecting the game with their showboating and celebrating. Act like you've been there before...something...something...

Even if Correa wasn't doing this in tribute to the kid, he earned that. It was a big HR in a huge spot and he played incredibly last night. Sports are to be enjoyed and celebrated.

Young players now talk and gesticulate when they do something good and my generation was taught to "act like you've been there before" whatever that means. We were also taught a bunch of other backwards or flat out wrong BS too and now we know better. Standing in the way of progress isn't being old school. Its just being ignorant and controlling.
 
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These young players are disrespecting the game with their showboating and celebrating. Act like you've been there before...something...something...

Even if Correa wasn't doing this in tribute to the kid, he earned that. It was a big HR in a huge spot and he played incredibly last night. Sports are to be enjoyed and celebrated.

Young players now talk and gesticulate when they do something good and my generation was taught to "act like you've been there before" whatever that means. We were also taught a bunch of other backwards or flat out wrong BS too and now we know better. Standing in the way of progress isn't being old school. Its just being ignorant and controlling.
I didn't like Correa's antics at all and thought it was worse than Batista. The video of Henderson leaping with joy while running to first after his ALCS homer was a spontaneous reaction and still gives me chills. Correa cupping his hand to his ear seemed choreographed.
 

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Celebrations don't bother me in big moments. They do bother me when nothing important has happened and you're celebrating like a buffoon. Sometimes Severino overreacts on strikeouts and I'm thankful I like the guy because I'd otherwise be very annoyed.
 

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Correa cupping his hand to his ear seemed choreographed.
He said he was so overcome by the moment he didn't even remember what he did, I personally thought it was awesome and it was my team that he just beat. Let the kids showboat!!
 

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And IMO Bautista's homer then bat flip given that absolutely insane game/situation was probably the peak baseball moment of the past decade.
 

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I didn't like Correa's antics at all and thought it was worse than Batista. The video of Henderson leaping with joy while running to first after his ALCS homer was a spontaneous reaction and still gives me chills. Correa cupping his hand to his ear seemed choreographed.
Fair enough but you realize you are fighting something you cannot control. Kids celebrate everything now in youth sports and my view is that if it enhances their experience its great. My best coaches growing up were less concerned with what the other team was doing versus what we were doing and the one piece of ageless wisdom they invoked was that if you don't like what someone is doing against you in a game, you stop them. Athletes typically don't celebrate failure.
 

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Fair enough but you realize you are fighting something you cannot control. Kids celebrate everything now in youth sports and my view is that if it enhances their experience its great. My best coaches growing up were less concerned with what the other team was doing versus what we were doing and the one piece of ageless wisdom they invoked was that if you don't like what someone is doing against you in a game, you stop them. Athletes typically don't celebrate failure.
This is a great point; no sense in fighting it, it's out of anyones control who's opposed to it.

Hitting a double, standing on second base, thumping your chest, doing a dance and screaming "LET'S GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!" is now the norm and fighting it is pointless.

Just like the choreographed end zone celebrations in football, standing around in a semi circle posing for a picture is again the norm.

Things change in life all the time, sports is no exception, this is how hits and TD's are celebrated in 2019.

Also a great point in that if you don't like it, stop them from hitting that double or scoring that TD.

It is what it is, doesn't bother me in the least.
 
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Fair enough but you realize you are fighting something you cannot control. Kids celebrate everything now in youth sports and my view is that if it enhances their experience its great. My best coaches growing up were less concerned with what the other team was doing versus what we were doing and the one piece of ageless wisdom they invoked was that if you don't like what someone is doing against you in a game, you stop them. Athletes typically don't celebrate failure.
I'm also a grumpy old fart and yes, reactions to success on the field have changed forever. My generation was told never to show someone up,

Here's a quote from Dusty Baker that illustrates how things used to be and especially with Bob Gibson:

"Hank Aaron told me: 'Don’t dig in against Bob Gibson, he’ll knock you down. He’d knock down his own grandmother if she dared to challenge him. Don’t stare at him, don’t smile at him, don’t talk to him. He doesn’t like it. If you happen to hit a home run, don’t run too slow, don’t run too fast. If you happen to want to celebrate, get in the tunnel first. And if he hits you, don’t charge the mound, because he’s a Gold Glove boxer.’ I’m like, ‘Damn, what about my 17-game hitting streak?' That was the night it ended.”

Here is a link to some more quotes about Gibson. I like the "It's nice to meet you, Mrs. Baker":

https://mopupduty.com/bob-gibson-stories-and-anecdotes-040714/