2019 NHL Draft

cshea

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TSN nailed this one on their 2 mocks.

Excellent skater, offense is a bit of a mystery. Didn’t get as much of an opportunity given he was behind Hughes and all the other American kids that went in the top half of the round.
 

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From TheHockeyWriters.com:

“He’s big, he’s smart, and he plays a responsible two-way game and there’s not a lot of flash in the game. He’s usually in the right spot, usually makes the right play, and is the type of player that coaches love.

”The challenges for Beecher are two-fold: he’s a big kid who sometimes plays a crash-and-bang style. Because of his size, that often leads to him taking penalties. The other challenge is that he’s so responsible, he’s seemingly conditioned to avoid taking offensive chances. Dating back to prep school, he hasn’t scored at a point-per-game pace for several seasons.”

https://thehockeywriters.com/john-beecher-2019-nhl-draft-prospect-profile/
 

Scoops Bolling

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Another year, another pass on guys they will probably regret within two years. Just take the obvious guy, what the fuck.
 

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I can’t wait to have two Paul Gaustads on the roster in the new NHL.

Reactionary / shitty take but it’s frustrating w the talent left on the board. At least try to trade down
 

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You had trouble putting pucks in the net, why not take a goal scorer? Okay. Like the fact the kid is big and can skate though...
 

prizminferno

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Kaliyev apparently sucked in interviews and is a floating bum. If they are wrong, 27 teams are wrong and some teams made terrible reaches.
 

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Basically 3C ceiling? Cool.
I think that’s his floor.

He’s 6 foot 3 and an excellent skate. Those qualities will play. The Bruins are projecting that his offense comes around when given an opportunity to play a higher role. He was buried behind Hughes,Turcotte, Caufield, Boldy and Zegras who were all top 15 picks.

Beecher is the safe pick, Kaliyev the home run swing. I guess you can knock them on it, but the home rum swings isn’t in their drafting MO.
 

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The guy I want is Poulin, good size, good shot left shot rw. Intangibles etc.. I'm scared of Vlasic, I think people are dreaming on his size but I think there is a huge risk of flame out.

Other guys I like:

Beecher- 6'3 center who can skate. He was pushed down the lineup because he played with three top 10 prospects at center. There could be more there but its a guess. I think he has a high floor.

Lagare- not a great skater but I bet he'd be a top 15 pick if he was. Elite shot from rw.

There are a bunch of left shot Finnish d available That don't excite me. Also there is the chance Peyton Krebs falls because he just had surgery to repair his Achilles. I'd take the chance on him over any of these guys.
I'm not gonna say I'm a genius....but you could.
 

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Basically 3C ceiling? Cool.
This is not true. This kid has been playing in the development program with Hughes, Zegras and Turcotte for 3 years. His floor is probably Kuraly. If there is untapped offensive potential, which their easily could be, his ceiling is a first division 2nd line center who can kill. This system desperately needs center depth. They have two prospects under 25 at the position, Studnicka and Frederic. This is a good pick. They could have swung for the fences with Kaliyev or Lavoie but both had consistency red flags and effort red flags. Kaliyev is also slow and has an anaphylactic reaction to his own zone. I can see why he fell. I can also see being annoyed not taking him but don't conflate that to beecher being a reach. He's not. McKeens, Pronman and future considerations all had him between 30-33. Pronman had him ahead of Mcmichael, holmstrom, Thomson, Pelletier, Tracey, bjornfoot and even Poulin, who all went before him.
 

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I don't hate the player. I just don't like the idea of taking high floor low upside players at the end of the 1st round. The Bruins have proven they are great at finding those players later in the draft and from undrafted FAs. I just think it's crazy to pass on elite talent at the end of the 1st round.

Maybe he really just did get buried on his team. But his offensive stats are bad for where he was picked. The USHL is a joke of a league. And he hasn't scored close to a point per game at any level in the past few years. That's very concerning for his offensive upside.

It sounds like a reasonable expectation is for him to turn into a player like Sean Kuraly. Who is one of my favorite players, but that would be a disappointing outcome for a 1st round pick.
 

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Beecher was my pre draft pick, but not the guy I would have taken given what was left on the board. Obviously love Brink.

Honestly, there is where I'm at

This is the 3rd time in 4 years that the Bruins have drafted an excellent athlete, Big Power forward type who was ranked a good bit lower by most, admittedly in each case the player was on a deep and talented team, and thus didn't get high end opportunities.. (Senyshyn, Frederick, and now Beecher). I desperately hope it works out for them this time, but the return on the first two is not overly promising so far.

Would love to know what was said up there on the draft board, because it sure looked like there was a pretty significant split among the scouts, and a very heated discussion going on
 

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Lets stop with his floor is a 3rd liner. He was a 3rd liner in a garbage league. He couldn't put up points in a league where it's easy to put up points. He still has a ton of development to be an NHLer
 

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Lets stop with his floor is a 3rd liner. He was a 3rd liner in a garbage league. He couldn't put up points in a league where it's easy to put up points. He still has a ton of development to be an NHLer
Ehhh original post was midnight hyperbole. Deleting
 

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Lets stop with his floor is a 3rd liner. He was a 3rd liner in a garbage league. He couldn't put up points in a league where it's easy to put up points. He still has a ton of development to be an NHLer
He was a 3rd liner because he played behind 2 top 10 picks. Let’s see how he develops in Ann Arbor in a top 2 line role before we kill this pick. He says he sees his development path like Blake Wheeler’s and I’d be very happy if he turns out to be him.
 

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Condition is if it’s top 10, pick moves to 2021.

Also significant because it doesn’t allow the Leafs to move their 2021 1st at this coming deadline
 

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That first to unload 1 year of Marleau (well 2 considering Marleau is going to be bought out) is scary for the Bruins moving Backes.
 

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That first to unload 1 year of Marleau (well 2 considering Marleau is going to be bought out) is scary for the Bruins moving Backes.
Yeah they’re probably stuck with Backes for this year. What’s his buyout cap number after next year?
 

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Dom revealed what the original Schenn deal was. It was Heinen, Grz and a 3rd but StL was demanding Frederic instead of the 3rd. All I know is thank God that didn't happen, that trade is horrific.
 

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I remember they supposedly had a deal with St. Louis for Shattenkirk a couple of years ago at the draft but St. Louis ownership killed it unless the Bruins would take Jori Lehtera’s contract.
 

prizminferno

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Sorry, I meant when were the teams discussing the trade?
I forget when we were rumored to be trading for Schenn, I think it was around the turn of the year? It was when StL was a dumpster fire, Schenn even said at media day he was told he was almost traded.
 

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I forget when we were rumored to be trading for Schenn, I think it was around the turn of the year? It was when StL was a dumpster fire, Schenn even said at media day he was told he was almost traded.
So this season? Yeah that would’ve been bad. It would’ve no Coyle or Grzelcyk in the playoffs.