2020 NCAA Football

joe dokes

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So they will find out more quickly that players are sick. But they can't find it before they become contagious, so it's still going to spread, right?
I thought I read that its a "faster, but less reliable" form of testing. "Faster but less reliable" is pretty much America in 2020.
 

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No, they can't find it beforehand. But we are all living in our own risk-management worlds. I would imagine 95%+ of members on this board generally follow the guidelines but stray occasionally...perhaps even often. We each make our own informed decisions. Yes, that's selfish on many levels, because it focuses the concern on self, and not on others whom we may infect if we become so.

That said, I think the college football community is trying its best to manage risk. Those that feel the risk is unacceptable may opt out. But at least those that opt in can do so on an informed basis, and within a environment / community that is putting in very robust protocols (if you haven't already, please see the article referenced). Yes, there is a risk that they may become infected...and infect others before being diagnosed. But given the regularity and timing, the risk would seem pretty damn low to me.
 

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That said, I think the college football community is trying its best to manage risk. Those that feel the risk is unacceptable may opt out. But at least those that opt in can do so on an informed basis, and within a environment / community that is putting in very robust protocols (if you haven't already, please see the article referenced). Yes, there is a risk that they may become infected...and infect others before being diagnosed. But given the regularity and timing, the risk would seem pretty damn low to me.
And yet Coach Orgeron says that most of his players at LSU have been infected.
 

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Apologies for the lack of clarity. My general comments were about commentary in the larger NCAA community regarding decision making re. play or not. My more specific comments about protocols were specifically related to efforts by the B1G.
 

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View: https://twitter.com/pac12/status/1306368008877559808?s=21


Looks like Pac-12 following suit and could be playing in November.

”The Pac-12 welcomes today's statements by Governor Newsom of California and Governor Brown of Oregon that state public health officials will allow for contact practice and return to competition. and that there are no state restrictions on our ability to play sports in light of our adherence to strict health and safety protocols and stringent testing requirements, including our recent, announced partnership with Ouidel which will enable daily rapid results testing. We appreciate Governor Newsom, and Governor Brown's support, the former of which is consistent with the very productive conversation that he and I had earlier today. Our California and Oregon universities will now each individually and immediately, reach out to their relevant county public health officials to seek clarification On what is required to achieve the same clearance to resume contact practice and competition. We are eager for our student-athletes to have the opportunity to play this season, as soon as it can be done safely and in accordance with public health authority approvals."
 

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Charlotte was forced to cancel its football game against North Carolina on Saturday because it did not have enough offensive linemen to safely play, the school announced Thursday.

Over the past two weeks, the school said, three players have tested positive for the coronavirus, but contact tracing led to several offensive linemen being placed in quarantine. Charlotte did not provide specific numbers on how many linemen had to be quarantined.
 

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You've made it clear that you disagree with anyone playing college football. But given that they are, isn't this exactly how they should be handling positive results?
 

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Of course. At least they made them public, unlike the OU's of the world, and didn't travel. Just pointing out the continued lunacy of this exercise.
 

joe dokes

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You've made it clear that you disagree with anyone playing college football. But given that they are, isn't this exactly how they should be handling positive results?
I am trying not to fall into that trap, sicne I agree that this is immoral lunacy. But giving them any credit here sounds a little like giving credit to parents who leave their 10-year old home alone with matches, rags and gasoline, but also show him how to use a fire extinguisher and dial 911.
 

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Sorry no link, but hearing the Pac12 is also going to try and play this late fall (without fans).
 

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ND/Wake re-scheduled for 12/12. Tentative date for ACC title game, but they built in flexibility to move back to 12/19 if necessary.

 

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It's complete lunacy to try to play.

You could not engineer a worse profile w/r/t COVID for a sports team than a college football team. Large roster and staff; high-contact sport (where every play starts with two lines of players literally lined up face to face three feet apart and breathing in each other's faces); 18-22 year olds, with attendant maturity issues; part of a massive community - a medium sized city, also about two-thirds populated by 18-22 year olds; living in densely packed housing situations; in many cases on an insecure life footing and lacking the werewithal to walk away from the team which provides most of the tangible benefits and upside in their lives; in a sport run by the most powerful figures at their schools, or even in their states, and the television networks, who make hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars off their efforts, and have an incentive to force them to keep playing; and with fan populations who largely ascribe to these teams the responsibility to entertain, represent, and serve as the main cultural and social focus for their states.

There is no way to do this safely, unlike professional sports where teams can bubble and where players have enough clout to get good conditions for a bubble. You cannot herd a bunch of college kids who are at the apex of their school's (their state's!) social pyramid into a dorm and tell them to live like monks.

Recently, two young English footballers, Phil Foden of Manchester City and Mason Greenwood of Manchester United, were called up to the England national side for international duty against the Icelandic side. They were sent home for breaching COVID protocol by inviting women to their hotel room.


these are two guys, college age themselves, at the beginning of their careers but already playing at two of the biggest clubs in the world, making lots of money, invited to play for their country and eventually hopefully play themselves into England's roster for the next World Cup, asked to stay within a well-defined COVID bubble - and they willingly defied it, risked it all, and risked COVID, because they wanted to get a little Icelandic strange on the side. That's one example. There are probably hundreds of others that we don't know about.

Any "solution" for college football players would involve isolation on such a large scale that it would make a mockery of the idea that these guys were "student-athletes." They're cattle. High-status cattle and cattle who might enjoy their lot but cattle nonetheless.

It is going to be a fucking trainwreck. Every college football team will have to stop practice and cancel games at some point. There will be instances of entire campuses being shuttered and unfortunately there may be campuses with thousands of cases and dozens of deaths.

The season will not be completed.
 

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Uconn is still practicing, but not considering games until the spring even though all but I think 3 teams are now committed to playing games this fall.

So why is Uconn practicing when there isn't going to be anyone left to actually play in the spring? And why are they practicing if it's not safe for them to play? And what would be the point of even playing 1 or 2 games in the spring other than I guess a last hurrah for graduating seniors? Who knows, Uconn football.
 

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Uconn is still practicing, but not considering games until the spring even though all but I think 3 teams are now committed to playing games this fall.

So why is Uconn practicing when there isn't going to be anyone left to actually play in the spring? And why are they practicing if it's not safe for them to play? And what would be the point of even playing 1 or 2 games in the spring other than I guess a last hurrah for graduating seniors? Who knows, Uconn football.
STaying sharp

Same thing with Olympic sports for most colleges . Some scrimmage against each other, some don't.
 

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Ragin-Cajuns v. App State next Wednesday is postponed due to Covid-19 issues


Poor LA-lafayette. They get their schedule scrambled due to Covid, and now a hurricane is bearing down on them. Sheesh.
 

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It takes a lot to stand out among college football coaches for bad Covid-takes (and lots of other execrable behavior), but Mullen is the man for the job.