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I’m not one for grandstanding, but I couldn’t imagine ever again supporting college football in its current form; just a rotten, disgusting organization and the pandemic has only made that more clear.
 

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If Saban is hospitalized, would Alabama cancel their season?
Would ICU do it?
Would death?
 

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I’m not one for grandstanding, but I couldn’t imagine ever again supporting college football in its current form; just a rotten, disgusting organization and the pandemic has only made that more clear.
The decisions to play have been by schools and conferences, not the NCAA. Sort of like the country.
 

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I think the best thing people can do for themselves is to accept reality. Fighting it only leads to madness. With that said, what you say above is a waste of your time.

College football is going forward. Nothing will stop it. Just accept it and ignore it, if you want. But it isn't being stopped or paused. Teams might take a week or two off, of course, but the entire season is happening. It will continue to happen.
 

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College football is going forward. Nothing will stop it. Just accept it and ignore it, if you want. But it isn't being stopped or paused. Teams might take a week or two off, of course, but the entire season is happening. It will continue to happen.
I guess so. I want to see games on TV and hope the revised schedule is completed. But seeing the crowds at some games is disturbing. What’s behind this? Alumni pressure? Can’t believe TV moguls would push it.
 

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I guess so. I want to see games on TV and hope the revised schedule is completed. But seeing the crowds at some games is disturbing. What’s behind this? Alumni pressure? Can’t believe TV moguls would push it.
i think that's mostly by geography. There are states with fewer (or no) restrictions on crowd sizes. Throw in a coach or AD with more power than a school president and you have even larger crowds. The UFlorida situation (before the positives) was an example. Mullen wanted a full house because the state lifted its restrictions. I assume its the school itself thats keeping a lid on (much like the Dolphins are).
 

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i think that's mostly by geography. There are states with fewer (or no) restrictions on crowd sizes. Throw in a coach or AD with more power than a school president and you have even larger crowds. The UFlorida situation (before the positives) was an example. Mullen wanted a full house because the state lifted its restrictions. I assume its the school itself thats keeping a lid on (much like the Dolphins are).
And Mullen specifically referenced the effect the fans had when they played at Texas A&M. So it's regional for sure, and often it is becoming a battle between the state and the school administration.
Although not in Texas.
 

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i think that's mostly by geography. There are states with fewer (or no) restrictions on crowd sizes. Throw in a coach or AD with more power than a school president and you have even larger crowds. The UFlorida situation (before the positives) was an example. Mullen wanted a full house because the state lifted its restrictions. I assume its the school itself thats keeping a lid on (much like the Dolphins are).
Thanks. Oklahoma-Texas was the crowd that caught my attention, and it was not a surprise. Big 12 and SEC are different than up here in the northeast. As of last week, Big Ten is still denying any kind of crowds among all its members. Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Wolf recently opened up crowds of 7500 for Eagles, Steelers and colleges but Penn State is obviously stuck for the time being.
As a Nit alum with a few good friends left in town, people over 65, it’s interesting to see their reaction. Some will not even venture into town, let alone see a game in person. A couple others are professors teaching classes virtually. They would attend games if given the chance. One is a former player. I guess it’s an individual choice for people who live near a big school.

 

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Bowls will be interesting. Will fans of non-SEC teams travel to these games? I imagine the TV networks will be happy to broadcast them, but will there even be 48 52 60 70 80 84 teams left standing to play? Yep, 43 Bowl Games this year, 2 teams play twice, so 84 colleges qualify per https://fbschedules.com/college-football-bowl-schedule/

Did we know there is a Fenway Bowl this year?
 

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I guess so. I want to see games on TV and hope the revised schedule is completed. But seeing the crowds at some games is disturbing. What’s behind this? Alumni pressure? Can’t believe TV moguls would push it.
Money. It just comes down to the money. Playing these games is money in the pocket. If they don't play, that money is gone and it will never come back. A schedule isn't fungible, it's final.

I am sanguine with regards to these teams playing. Yes, people are at risk but it seems like the players overwhelmingly want to play. And, again, if you're a senior and this is it, and you will never play sports at this level again, I genuinely understand why they would want to play.

So I personally find the teeth gnashing to be a little much. Continually saying, "This just shouldn't be happening," is as extreme and ridiculous as people saying, "The stadiums should be packed to the gills with people."
 

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Money. It just comes down to the money. Playing these games is money in the pocket. If they don't play, that money is gone and it will never come back. A schedule isn't fungible, it's final.

I am sanguine with regards to these teams playing. Yes, people are at risk but it seems like the players overwhelmingly want to play. And, again, if you're a senior and this is it, and you will never play sports at this level again, I genuinely understand why they would want to play.

So I personally find the teeth gnashing to be a little much. Continually saying, "This just shouldn't be happening," is as extreme and ridiculous as people saying, "The stadiums should be packed to the gills with people."
The reality for older people in college towns runs gamut from fear to interest in attending games when only 7500 fans, players, stadium employees and media are allowed inside a 108,000-seat stadium.
Students want to attend and maybe they should be the only ones allowed. But the big donors will find a loophole. Lots of executive boxes in these big stadiums.
The rising virus rates all over the Big Ten, especially Wisconsin, will factor into conference thinking. Ohio State and Penn State lead the conference in virus rates on campus. The Nits can’t even beat the Buckeyes in a pandemic.
 

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In the overwhleming majority of the Southeast and the Plains, this is all they know. It's a way of life and it's what they spend/earn money on.

Maybe things would be different if they had the Cape/Hamptons/Pebble Beach etc. and the Boston/NY/LA/SF life and cost of living
 

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In the overwhleming majority of the Southeast and the Plains, this is all they know. It's a way of life and it's what they spend/earn money on.

Maybe things would be different if they had the Cape/Hamptons/Pebble Beach etc. and the Boston/NY/LA/SF life and cost of living
No wealthy people in oil country?
 

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The reality for older people in college towns runs gamut from fear to interest in attending games when only 7500 fans, players, stadium employees and media are allowed inside a 108,000-seat stadium.
Students want to attend and maybe they should be the only ones allowed. But the big donors will find a loophole. Lots of executive boxes in these big stadiums.
The rising virus rates all over the Big Ten, especially Wisconsin, will factor into conference thinking. Ohio State and Penn State lead the conference in virus rates on campus. The Nits can’t even beat the Buckeyes in a pandemic.
Yeah, lord knows how the Big Ten is going to handle this. They are starting next weekend and their areas are on fire. College kids are a pretty consistent virus vector.

But they will play. By hook or by crook. But games might be canceled before some seasons even start.
 

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Yeah, lord knows how the Big Ten is going to handle this. They are starting next weekend and their areas are on fire. College kids are a pretty consistent virus vector.

But they will play. By hook or by crook. But games might be canceled before some seasons even start.
I was looking at the student virus charts for Big Ten schools. Most schools have flattened out in the last two weeks after crazy numbers in September during the initial testing period. Wisconsin as a state is a mess. But the conference will play until the positivity rate for players and coaches starts to rise. I could see the Big Ten cancelling the season by Thanksgiving. Trump won’t like it but he’s going to be on the menu for Turkey Day.
 

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I was looking at the student virus charts for Big Ten schools. Most schools have flattened out in the last two weeks after crazy numbers in September during the initial testing period. Wisconsin as a state is a mess. But the conference will play until the positivity rate for players and coaches starts to rise. I could see the Big Ten cancelling the season by Thanksgiving. Trump won’t like it but he’s going to be on the menu for Turkey Day.
Well, hopefully it won't matter what Trump thinks about Thanksgiving football, to be perfectly honest.
 

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I hope not wearing masks(looking at you, Jimbo and Texas A&M) and packing in the fans was worth losing $100,000.

"Multiple SEC schools will have revenue from the conference deducted as a result of not following proper COVID-19 protocols, sources told ESPN.
According to a memo sent by SEC Commissioner Greg Sankey last week, schools would have their conference revenue distribution cut by $100,000 for each week that they did not follow protocol.
The memo, which was obtained by ESPN, also said that suspensions would be considered for failure to comply.
Underlined and bolded for emphasis, Sankey wrote, "Do not relax - and do not let those around you relax - because of a few weeks of success."

 

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I think the best thing people can do for themselves is to accept reality. Fighting it only leads to madness. With that said, what you say above is a waste of your time.

College football is going forward. Nothing will stop it. Just accept it and ignore it, if you want. But it isn't being stopped or paused. Teams might take a week or two off, of course, but the entire season is happening. It will continue to happen.
I quite literally meant take a week or two off. I know the horse is not coming back into the barn.

Where my personal disconnect is...and the NFL is a culprit here too...I dont understand, in light of very reduced ticket sales, why there were not built in "all off" weeks for the entire league or, for the SEC, entire conference? You have built in days for makeups if these issues arise, and also it stretches your season longer, allowing for more of all the coverage and media and hoopla that comes with it.
 

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Bowls will be interesting. Will fans of non-SEC teams travel to these games? I imagine the TV networks will be happy to broadcast them, but will there even be 48 52 60 70 80 84 teams left standing to play? Yep, 43 Bowl Games this year, 2 teams play twice, so 84 colleges qualify per https://fbschedules.com/college-football-bowl-schedule/

Did we know there is a Fenway Bowl this year?
Not me.
AAC v. ACC.
Not this year

 

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"We have said from the beginning that the health and safety of our student-athletes, coaches and staff members comes first," Alvarez said. "Over the past several days we have seen a rising number of student-athletes and staff contract the virus. The responsible thing for us to do is to pause football-related activities for at least seven days."
As per usual, no mention or consideration that this group is part of a larger community about which they are also concerned. Because they aren't.
 

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As per usual, no mention or consideration that this group is part of a larger community about which they are also concerned. Because they aren't.
Probably because young people who are being tested every day and isolated when testing positive are the least likely group in the entire country to cause any kind of public spread.
 

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Several well placed sources saying Texas is going to give Urban Meyer a 5 year/$12 million per year contract.
And I am so totally down with that. As long as the boosters are paying, I am ready to be relevant again. This would be the first coaching search that Bellmont has not screwed up since they forced out coach Royal.