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Sounds very likely next week vs Ohio State is out too, so the Big 10 will have to change its rules or OSU can’t play in the CCG even though they’ll play in the ... national championship game. Go figure
Playing Wisconsin is probably better for their resume than playing Northwestern
 

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This is such a bad look from the big 10. Makes it seem like rules don’t apply to OSU. Because these rules are only being changed mid season because the NCAA’s darling hasn’t played Enough games. I doubt they pull this move for any other college.
View: https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/1335319574506516485

“@Brett_McMurphy: B1G ADs will likely change B1G title game requirements to allow 5-0 Ohio State in title game if it can’t play 6th league game, sources told @Stadium. But it won’t be an easy decision, source said. A win in B1G title game would all but guarantee Buckeyes a spot in @CFBPlayoff”
 

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This is such a bad look from the big 10. Makes it seem like rules don’t apply to OSU. Because these rules are only being changed mid season because the NCAA’s darling hasn’t played Enough games. I doubt they pull this move for any other college.
View: https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/1335319574506516485
They were hastily made up rules before the season started and the league understands that it would be absurd to put the best team in the conference in the position to be eliminated because of Covid. And those hastily made rules will probably be changed because Ohio State has a chance to make the playoffs and that helps the entire league.

I don't get the teeth gnashing. It's not like Ohio State isn't backing it up on the field.
 

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Yeah, I can't imagine a worse look than leaving what's clearly been the best team in the conference out of the conference championship because of the technicality of a makeshift rule... especially when it's the league's lack of a plan over the past several months that's at fault. The B1G was never going to commit such a self-inflicted injury. Either the Buckeyes play in the championship game or there is no championship game. That's not favoritism to tOSU, the same would stand for whatever team was dominating the conference. I get that people who hate them were all giddy over the chance they could get screwed over – if it was Alabama and the SEC, I'd love to see a ridiculous rule upheld too – but it wouldn't make it the right decision.
 

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OSU and Michigan officially canceled.

now we wait to see if the big ten bends the rules for their golden child.
 

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OSU and Michigan officially canceled.

now we wait to see if the big ten bends the rules for their golden child.
Yeah, definitely, the Big 10 definitely does more for Ohio State than Ohio State does for the Big 10.

I have no idea why you have lost your marbles on this topic.
 

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In this Covid world, Ohio State could always play Indiana again. ESPN hinting as much in its early coverage.

Funny, the U. Of Rhode Island men’s hoop team got invited to play Wisconsin on short notice. The big story from URI is how Wisconsin chartered a plane to fly the Rams out and back. The Big Ten has money!
 

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Yeah, definitely, the Big 10 definitely does more for Ohio State than Ohio State does for the Big 10.

I have no idea why you have lost your marbles on this topic.
I’m sorry but if it was say Purdue (instead of OSU) with the same record and performance that OSU has shown this year, I highly doubt they would bend the rules for them because Purdue is not OSU.

nonetheless
Purdue has canceled it’s practice today
View: https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/1336383307995615233

“@Brett_McMurphy: Purdue football program cancels practice Tuesday to evaluate results of recent COVID-19 testing. Purdue scheduled to play at Indiana Saturday”
wonder if the big10 is pulling strings for an OSU VS IU rematch.
 

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The hate is strong with that one. It happens.
Yeah, it just might be hate, but irrational hate in this instance.

It's not like this 6 game rule is a 100 year bedrock of NCAA football tradition. It was an arbitrary rule, set arbitrarily, in a season that was hastily put together. It's not the Rosetta Stone. You don't fuck over your biggest team for some silly rule because teams got Covid.

Now that would be arbitrary.
 
Not kidding: OSU and A&M should play Saturday, winner gets the 4th playoff spot.
Great idea - BYU vs. Coastal Carolina was scheduled later in the week than we are now, wasn't it? (No chance that Ohio St. would agree to this, mind you...particularly given that Notre Dame might beat Clemson in the ACC Championship Game, which would knock out the Tigers and leave space for two of Ohio St., Texas A&M and Florida, the latter assuming an upset over Alabama in the SEC title game.)
 

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(BTW the only reason I am using Ohio a bunch is because they are in the same division as IU and (at least this year are playing the same damn schedule) so its an easier comparison point, at least for this year)

With that out of the way can anyone explain to me WTF type of Logic this is by the CFB playoff committee on why IU did not even move up one spot in the most recent rankings released yesterday despite beating a RANKED WISCONSIN team? (they were also 12th in the past CFB playoff rankings)

The Indiana Hoosiers stayed put at number 12 in this week’s College Football Playoff rankings. The Hoosiers were 12th the last two weeks. The Hoosiers are coming off a win at Wisconsin, but their game this weekend is in doubt as Purdue has cancelled their Tuesday practice. The Hoosiers are in play for a New Year’s Six Bowl bid.

College Football Playoff Committee Chair Gary Barta, also the AD at Iowa explained the committee’s reasoning putting IU 12th.

“Well, the committee has really thought highly of Indiana” Barta said. “They only have one loss, and that's to Ohio State. They started off slow in that game but came back. Their defense has been strong. And then you always wonder when a team loses their leader, their quarterback, how will a team react to that, when they lost Michael Penix but Jack Tuttle came in and really did a nice job. The committee feels good about Indiana. They are 6-1 now.

When you look at some of the people that we compare around them, they don't have any top-25 wins and none of their wins are against a team with a winning record. So that certainly was considered as one of the variables.”
https://hoosierhuddle.com/hoosier-blog/indiana-comes-in-at-number-in-latest-college-football-playoff-ranking/2020/12/8
Re the bolded.. How the fudge does that make any sense? IU has beat 3 ranked teams this year, the only other CFB team to do that this year is ALABAMA.

When IU played them those three teams were ranked, and then IU won, so shouldn't those count as ranked wins? and if the CFB committee logic is "well they are no longer ranked currently so they are not really ranked wins" than why is OSU ranked because they are playing the same damn schedule as Indiana, and by CFB logic IU (the only team that OSU beat that is currently ranked) should not be ranked currently since they have not beaten any ranked teams this year (which would mean OSU also has no ranked wins this year)
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(BTW the only reason I am using Ohio a bunch is because they are in the same division as IU and (at least this year are playing the same damn schedule) so its an easier comparison point, at least for this year)

With that out of the way can anyone explain to me WTF type of Logic this is by the CFB playoff committee on why IU did not even move up one spot in the most recent rankings released yesterday despite beating a RANKED WISCONSIN team? (they were also 12th in the past CFB playoff rankings)


https://hoosierhuddle.com/hoosier-blog/indiana-comes-in-at-number-in-latest-college-football-playoff-ranking/2020/12/8
Re the bolded.. How the fudge does that make any sense? IU has beat 3 ranked teams this year, the only other CFB team to do that this year is ALABAMA.

When IU played them those three teams were ranked, and then IU won, so shouldn't those count as ranked wins? and if the CFB committee logic is "well they are no longer ranked currently so they are not really ranked wins" than why is OSU ranked because they are playing the same damn schedule as Indiana, and by CFB logic IU (the only team that OSU beat that is currently ranked) should not be ranked currently since they have not beaten any ranked teams this year (which would mean OSU also has no ranked wins this year)
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What you're missing is that the committee is allowed to speak out of both sides of their mouth.
 

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I'm usually in favor of geography in sports, especially college, but I sort of feel the B1G needs to be realigned. The East is much stronger, even after Rutgers putting immense downward pressure.
 

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I think they just wanted to pass on the bowl this season, and their fans would have taken that worse than BC's fans, for example. And this way, 2 birds, one stone.

They would have surely have been selected otherwise, given their rabid fan base, proximity to locations of many bowls, and so many blue-state teams passing and the rule against below .500 teams being sidelined this year.
 

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I'm usually in favor of geography in sports, especially college, but I sort of feel the B1G needs to be realigned. The East is much stronger, even after Rutgers putting immense downward pressure.
Same w/the SEC, no? West is considerably better.
 

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Or at least beat the team they want to leapfrog into the B1G title game.
I mean, this is the correct answer. Hard to justify claims of "unfairness" if you can't beat tOSU on the field.

I should note that I'm not exactly saying this as a fan of the school to the South. But they have been the dominant football power in the conference for some time.
 
Meant to post this here...so, what happens if there's a virus outbreak this week and one of the conference championship games have to be postponed? Will they be played the day after Christmas? Or what about the playoff games? Will other bowl games - especially the NY6 - get postponed, or just cancelled? Seems to me that the odds of one of the scenarios happening has to be at least 50-50, the way COVID is spreading across the country at the moment.
 

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Auburn fires Gus Malzahn; Illinois fires Lovie Smith
I eagerly await Auburn's inevitable choice as the next average-to-above-average replacement coach. I hope whoever it is continues the "Lightning in a Bottle" tradition demonstrated within the first 2 seasons of his hiring by Chizik (2010) and Malzahn (2013).
 

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I eagerly await Auburn's inevitable choice as the next average-to-above-average replacement coach. I hope whoever it is continues the "Lightning in a Bottle" tradition demonstrated within the first 2 seasons of his hiring by Chizik (2010) and Malzahn (2013).
Sumlin? Knows the SEC-W
 

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I eagerly await Auburn's inevitable choice as the next average-to-above-average replacement coach. I hope whoever it is continues the "Lightning in a Bottle" tradition demonstrated within the first 2 seasons of his hiring by Chizik (2010) and Malzahn (2013).
I will be shocked if they don’t hire Hugh Freeze.
 

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Ha! Speaking of .... Briles just resigned. I think he'll actually be Texas Tech's next offensive coordinator before Liberty. Tech just fired their OC a few minutes before Briles' announcement.
 

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Meant to post this here...so, what happens if there's a virus outbreak this week and one of the conference championship games have to be postponed? Will they be played the day after Christmas? Or what about the playoff games? Will other bowl games - especially the NY6 - get postponed, or just cancelled? Seems to me that the odds of one of the scenarios happening has to be at least 50-50, the way COVID is spreading across the country at the moment.
I know this doesn't directly answer your question but it comes pretty close. The catch here is that they literally wrote the rules to replace the infected team with the 2nd place team, so the direct answer to your question is probably: it depends on the conference and their contingencies.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/30519848/oregon-ducks-replace-washington-huskies-pac-12-title-game
 

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Brian Kelly and Dabo are both going off about the possibility that playoff teams who are sent to the Rose Bowl for their semifinal game will not be play in front of their families because of local COVID restrictions. It's hard to argue that it's dumb to fly two teams to a COVID hotbed so that they could play a game in front of nobody, but they are both going in pretty hot about it.

Pull quote is Kelly saying that the committee would be "worshiping the ashes of tradition" by keeping the game at the Rose Bowl, which is (a) very funny coming from ND, but (b) an absolutely fire bar. Something to keep an eye on in any event.