2020 NFL Draft - Rounds 2 & 3 Game Thread

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This is the perfect double-up!!! Keene is the highest ceiling TE not named Kmet in this draft class and Asiasi has the highest floor. @Super Nomario HT for elling me to watch this guy.
 

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Kid looks like he could gain 20 pounds easy.

If you’re a young QB, is it easiest to throw to TE’s cuz they’re the biggest, or is that a nonsense theory?
 

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Belichick is turning more and more into the mother from the Goonies every year. Gase might be his son.
 

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If you told me the Patriots drafted the highest floor inline TE and the highest ceiling guy not named Kmet (so Keene) I would have told you A+ draft. Hyperbole but We got Uche, Asiasi and Keene. Good haul.
 

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Keene is someone I mentioned at the beginning of the day as a late day 2 super high ceiling guy :). I am so happy right now.
 

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NFL.com's writeup:

"Swiss Army Knife versatility performing in-line, as a wingback, from the slot, as a fullback, and even as a personal protector in pass protection. He's lean but well-defined and his play speed and competitiveness are both a plus. He will struggle against NFL power at the point of attack, but his ability to block in space and catch the football make him naturally suited for the H-back role, where teams can align him around the formation as needed. He should fit into a core special teams role even though he is surprisingly inexperienced in that area. He has the make-it-in-the-league play traits and mental makeup of a Day 3 target."

So a day 3 guy the Pats traded up for in round 3. That's ok...he's late enough in the round that he's nearly been picked on the 3rd day.
 

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If you told me the Patriots drafted the highest floor inline TE and the highest ceiling guy not named Kmet (so Keene) I would have told you A+ draft.
I'd rather just have taken Kmet and and saved the overpay picks and take two later safeties and an OL or DT
 

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NFL.com's writeup:

"Swiss Army Knife versatility performing in-line, as a wingback, from the slot, as a fullback, and even as a personal protector in pass protection. He's lean but well-defined and his play speed and competitiveness are both a plus. He will struggle against NFL power at the point of attack, but his ability to block in space and catch the football make him naturally suited for the H-back role, where teams can align him around the formation as needed. He should fit into a core special teams role even though he is surprisingly inexperienced in that area. He has the make-it-in-the-league play traits and mental makeup of a Day 3 target."

So a day 3 guy the Pats traded up for in round 3. That's ok...he's late enough in the round that he's nearly been picked on the 3rd day.

This suggests to me that Burkhead will either accept a pay cut or be released.
 

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What makes his ceiling “super high”?
Both he and Asiasi are good blockers who have YAC skills.

Keene, Albert O, and Kmet were the only 3 TEs who had the athletic profile the Patriots covet (Asiasi had the size and length but not the RAS - he did have the 40 they like though).

Keene has some of the best YAC in the class. He is also a great contested catcher. His big issues are refinine inline blocking as well as route running.
 

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My biggest issues with Keene are as a blocker he 1) is a lunger in space (sometimes), 2) gets off-balance (sometimes), 3) doesn't always have the right punch timing inline (sometmes)). Oh he is a head ducker too. Hate that.

He also has elite flashes as a blocker. It's a technique thing.
 

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Both he and Asiasi are good blockers who have YAC skills.

Keene, Albert O, and Kmet were the only 3 TEs who had the athletic profile the Patriots covet (Asiasi had the size and length but not the RAS - he did have the 40 they like though).

Keene has some of the best YAC in the class. He is also a great contested catcher. His big issues are refinine inline blocking as well as route running.
Thanks. Definitely seem like an intriguing pairing and much better than the crap we put out there last year.
 

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I'd rather just have taken Kmet and and saved the overpay picks and take two later safeties and an OL or DT
Can Kmet play as both TEs at the same time in a 2-TE set?

They needed 2 TEs. They needed edge help. They needed to prepare for the next group of safeties. Not sure how this draft isnt making people happy in the pants.
 

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Can Kmet play as both TEs at the same time in a 2-TE set?

They needed 2 TEs. They needed edge help. They needed to prepare for the next group of safeties. Not sure how this draft isnt making people happy in the pants.
TE group was by far the worst in the entire NFL.

Taking Tom & Jerry here makes a lot of sense.
 

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My biggest thing with Keene beyond the tradeup.... didn't we have essentially the same player signed as an UDFA in 2017 and then traded him for pick 241 in this draft?
 

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Why? Burkhead plays a different role. Keene may be versatile but he's not a full-time HB.
I was just thinking pre-draft that Burkhead might be retained to do more work as a pass-catcher at H-Back or even TE. Now he's a likely cut.
 

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So to sum it up:

2nd - S Dugger - super athletic, freak athlete at S with huge size at the position. Versatile.
2nd - LB Uche - super athletic LB with good size and power. Versatile.
3rd - LB Jennings - excellent instinctive LB from a premier program, very solid fundamentally. Versatile.
3rd - TE Asiasi - great size, good speed, stretches the seams
3rd - TD Keene - good size, excellent speed, versatile, can line up anywhere

The Pats have had an excellent draft so far, and they still have a 5th, four 6ths, and a 7th - so six more picks over the four remaining rounds.

I know we all have our expectations, but damn, this feels like a really good draft for a team that needed one.
 

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So to sum it up:

2nd - S Dugger - super athletic, freak athlete at S with huge size at the position. Versatile.
2nd - LB Uche - super athletic LB with good size and power. Versatile.
3rd - LB Jennings - excellent instinctive LB from a premier program, very solid fundamentally. Versatile.
3rd - TE Asiasi - great size, good speed, stretches the seams
3rd - TD Keene - good size, excellent speed, versatile, can line up anywhere

The Pats have had an excellent draft so far, and they still have a 5th, four 6ths, and a 7th - so six more picks over the four remaining rounds.

I know we all have our expectations, but damn, this feels like a really good draft for a team that needed one.
Definitely looks more needs-focused than we are used to seeing.