2020 NFL: Wk.12 (Thanksgiving Week) Game Thread

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NATIONAL BROADCASTS
  • Thanksgiving 11/26 early, Houston @ Detroit, (12:30 PM, CBS)
  • Thanksgiving 11/26 middle, Washington @ Dallas (4:30 PM, FOX)
  • Thanksgiving 11/26 late, Baltimore @ Pittsburgh (8:20 PM, NBC)
  • Sunday Early Afternoon 11/29, Baltimore @ Pittsburgh (1:15 PM, NBC)
  • Sunday Late Afternoon 11/29, (other than parts of Rockies) Kansas City @ Tompa Bay (4:25 PM, CBS)
  • Sunday Night 11/29, Chicago @ Green Bay, (8:20 PM, NBC)
  • Monday Night 11/30, Seattle @ Philadelphia, (8:15PM, ESPN)
  • Tuesday Night 12/1, Baltimore @ Pittsburgh, (8:00PM, NBC)
  • Wednesday Night 12/2, Baltimore @ Pittsburgh, (3:40PM, NBC)
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As if Thanksgiving day wasn't going to be boring enough this year. Pretty rare that I'm awake past halftime of the night game, we're usually watching Elf anyway.
 

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All 3 games opened with less than a 3-point spread. (With the COVID cases in Baltimore, the Steelers are now a 5-point favorite in the night game.) Others may complain about the slate, but I’m looking forward to three highly competitive games, two of which have playoff implications.
 

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No Ravens Steelers now either, this is a dead Thanksgiving.

might be good games but the Lions have the best record of all teams playing tomorrow. some baaaaad football is coming.
 

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Hell of a play. Even if he's somewhat cooked as a pure pass rusher Watt is still making plays.
 

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Fanduel live betting makes these shitty games so much more interesting. We thinking Detroit gets to the red zone this drive?
 

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That Bud Light ad is both amazing and terrifying at the same time
 
I've just realized that Jim Nantz's two main partners - Tony Romo and Nick Faldo - are basically the exact same color commentator. Stream of consciousness, occasional humor, often "WTF are you talking about?" (EDIT - Romo is more often insightful, but they must be very similar for Nantz to work with.)
 

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I am so Thankful for the NFL. I can get into almost any type of competition, it doesn’t even need to be athletic, but there is just something about the NFL that has it all. Scarcity of games, strategy, amazing athleticism, hilarious blunders...it’s so good.
 

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I will never not be amazed that the Lions looked at Matt Patricia, who I thought was about to be fired for putting together an awful defense that got dragged to the Super Bowl by a great offense, and said.... "yeah that's our guy"
 

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I will never not be amazed that the Lions looked at Matt Patricia, who I thought was about to be fired for putting together an awful defense that got dragged to the Super Bowl by a great offense, and said.... "yeah that's our guy"
I don’t think he is good, but I also don’t think he is that bad. He’s not my kind of guy so I would be happy to insult him if I thought he was awful. Lions should not have fired Schwartz years ago.
 

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I don’t think he is good, but I also don’t think he is that bad. He’s not my kind of guy so I would be happy to insult him if I thought he was awful. Lions should not have fired Schwartz years ago.
I think he's maybe the worst in the league (non-Gase division) that team has gotten worse each year, and I don't see what he brings to the table. He's a defensive coach, whose defense is the worst in the league (and whose defense when he was the coordinator here was... bad and got much better as soon as he left), and built in a way that is just dumb. The Patriots struggle with speed at LB, but the Lions are slow everywhere by design. He's not a good in-game coach either.

Most coaches who are bad at one thing, you can point to other things they do well there is nothing anyone can point to that Patricia does well. He'll get fired soon, someone will hire him as a defensive coach, he'll be terrible, he'll go to the college grift circuit and stay there.
 

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I think he's maybe the worst in the league (non-Gase division) that team has gotten worse each year, and I don't see what he brings to the table. He's a defensive coach, whose defense is the worst in the league (and whose defense when he was the coordinator here was... bad and got much better as soon as he left), and built in a way that is just dumb. The Patriots struggle with speed at LB, but the Lions are slow everywhere by design. He's not a good in-game coach either.

Most coaches who are bad at one thing, you can point to other things they do well there is nothing anyone can point to that Patricia does well. He'll get fired soon, someone will hire him as a defensive coach, he'll be terrible, he'll go to the college grift circuit and stay there.
I think McCarthy and Lynn are worse. Patricia is just in a tier of “he’s about as good as his talent is.”

Firing him wouldn’t be unfair, but when I watch the Lions I don’t think they play that bad given who the players are.
 

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I can't imagine the Lions hiring Patricia after the clown-shirt moment. That's the sort of thing your wacky defensive coordinator can get away with, not the guy you want to lead the team
 

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I can’t hate Stafford – no he hasn’t been the greatest QB given how long he’s been around and that he was a first overall pick. But he’s pretty gritty, has a big arm and has been served terribly by his front office and coaches over the years.
 

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I can’t hate Stafford – no he hasn’t been the greatest QB given how long he’s been around and that he was a first overall pick. But he’s pretty gritty, has a big arm and has been served terribly by his front office and coaches over the years.
From the few Lions games I watch, I think Stafford is a very dangerous player to have in your organization. He is good enough to dream on and his arm looks the part but he always figures out how to lose.
 

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From the few Lions games I watch, I think Stafford is a very dangerous player to have in your organization. He is good enough to dream on and his arm looks the part but he always figures out how to lose.
Which actually speaks to the prior point ... with better coaching and/or players around him, could he have come to avoid those mistakes?
 

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Which actually speaks to the prior point ... with better coaching and/or players around him, could he have come to avoid those mistakes?
It’s a lot of coaches at this point isn’t it?
 

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I will never not be amazed that the Lions looked at Matt Patricia, who I thought was about to be fired for putting together an awful defense that got dragged to the Super Bowl by a great offense, and said.... "yeah that's our guy"
To be fair, the defense was pretty good in 2014 and 2016 when they had better players. Belichick also credited Patricia's game plan in part for how they defended the Rams in the Super Bowl. I think he's a smart defensive mind; he certainly hasn't impressed as a head coach.
 

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It’s a lot of coaches at this point isn’t it?
Sure, but when Caldwell is the best offensive head coach you get in your career ...

Still don't know why the offensive coordinator (the one with 3 names, none of which I can remember) who seemed to get the best out of Stafford never got the head job
 

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Hockenson looked uncoverable in the first quarter, but when have the opportunity to pound the rock for 3.7 a carry with AP you can't pass up that up.
 

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To be fair, the defense was pretty good in 2014 and 2016 when they had better players. Belichick also credited Patricia's game plan in part for how they defended the Rams in the Super Bowl. I think he's a smart defensive mind; he certainly hasn't impressed as a head coach.
Of course he's smart; DID YOU KNOW HE WAS A ROCKET SCIENTIST??????
 

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Hockenson looked uncoverable in the first quarter, but when have the opportunity to pound the rock for 3.7 a carry with AP you can't pass up that up.
The Lions are poorly coached. I can't see any defense of Patricia. He's good as a coordinator. He's abysmal as a coach. The Lions lose so many games they should win and have leads in because they make stupid mistakes. It's very similar to the Chargers under Lynn or the Falcons under Quinn.
 

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Patricia is 13-27-1 as a head coach. .329

You are what your record says you are. He's a dead man walking in Detroit.
 

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And now they need to go into panic mode because their defense can't stop a thing so all that establishing the run was pointless.
 

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HOU finally realized that the "Will Fuller just runs into the endzone from anywhere on the DET half of the field" play is gonna work every time.
DET is such a bad defensive team.
 

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This league needs promotion-relegation.

Lions should have gone down years ago.