You’re a much better poster than your recent efforts. I’ll leave it at that.
Nah, I was one of those and I didn't think he was better. I just wanted to see him play without it being in a mop-up role.
If that’s the argument you’re making, then why would you play him at all? This was a clear cut tank job and deserves to be called out as such.
Sorry, I just can’t get worked up as much as you and others on this issue. I don’t think pulling him is a big deal considering that they sat a lot of important players coming into the game and also foreshadowed the Sudfeld move before the game started. It may not have made sense to many and it doesn’t play well optically, but it appears this was not just a knee-jerk decision just to try to lose a game. View: https://twitter.com/mikegarafolo/status/1345877684937748483?s=21
That’s beside the point. If WFT and NYG were both 10-6 what Pederson did would have been just as bad.
I don't give a flying fuck at a rolling donut about the Giants playoff hopes. As old-fashioned as it sounds, I still expect some sense of professional integrity to be displayed ... especially in the game chosen by the league for the national audience that had playoff implications. It'll be forgotten in a week, but it was an embarrassment.
Because they announced a couple days ago that Big Ben wasn’t playing. Apples and toaster ovens. And they’re going to the playoffs.
The Steelers were managing their own playoff schedule. Roethlisberger is beat up, and they will neeed to somehow win three consecutive tough playoff games to get to the Super Bowl so resting him makes a ton of sense.
Yup. And Ben turns 39 in March. There is a ton of potential value for getting him rest. There was no reason to bench an exciting but raw QB in Hurts. You’ve basically committed to him being the starter in 2021 and are not giving him reps against a team he’s never faced and who he will face twice / season for the foreseeable future?
That’s a big part. There are many aspects of the game that shiwed Pederson simoly wanted to lose. Benching Hurts was part of it. If the Eagles come in with their second team because they din’t want anyone be8ng hurt or want to see what they have from the start (and they did rule out Jeffreys and Sanders) then maybe I understand
This exactly. Pittsburgh has every right to rest their players as they have to win 3 playiff games to get to the Suoer Bowl. And they are actually playing Cleveland next week.
If Cam Newton had a game where he was 7/20 for 72 yards and the game was still winnable what percent of this board would be screaming to pull him for the backup?
It may not have been, but it’s certainly not surprising considering how the Eagles treated this game coming in. I’d have a bigger gripe if Hurts was having a great game and got pulled, but he was 7-20 for 72 yards and a pick with 34 rushing yards and 2 TDs. Not exactly pulling prime Brady for Curtis Painter or someone of that ilk.
To double-down and say that playing Sudfeld was part of his "coaching to win the game" makes Pederson even more of a bad actor
It’s all good. I just thought this was egregious. Like E5, I don’t care about the Giants or their fans. In fact, I live in NJ so I will get to make fun of many Giants fan work colleagues tomorrow over this. If I’m an Eagles fan or player, I’m far more pissed, as my coach just robbed my team of the fun of knocking a division opponent out of the playoffs along with the excitement of seeing Hurts’ continued development. What if he engineered a great TD drive that served as a spring board to his 2021 season? You just never know. Putting in that shit brick Sudfeld was just too much for me. He probably won’t even be on the team next year so getting him snaps had no value at all.
And Collinsworth made a good point that taking Hurts out of the game removed the threat of a QB run and let a really talented DL pin their ears back on every play against a guy who obviously had no chance. You can’t do that against Hurts or he might rip off a 40 yard run against you.
I was at that one then got home in time to watch the Jets get smoked and eliminated by Houston and Buddy punch Kevin Gilbride on the Houston sideline
He's like Cam, only better on RB and WR screens. (And without the running ability)I did not watch the Bears game, but wow this pass chart for Trubisky:
33/42 252 0TD, 1INT
10 passes behind the line of scrimmage, (10/10), 19 passes between 0 and 5 yards (17/19), 6 passes for 5-7 yards (5/6), 7 passes over 6 yards (2/7 1INT)
Just amazing.
I wanted chaos. 6-10 is more chaos than 7-9, especially when you look at the other 4 or 5 teams in history that made it with a losing record.
Eagles fan here who didn't watch the second half. (Why would I stay up for that?) Agree with every word. NFC East is a joke.
The bolded is such a poor job by Pederson. And it really leaves him with no defense.
Was there as well, and absolutely think that was a big step in Drew’s development, and consequently the team’s playoff run in ‘94. And vividly remember a group of us watching Gilbride V Ryan at a local tavern when we got back. The most feeble punch ever thrown.
You don't really worry about prolonging a game in the 3rd quarter and with so many key players out, who really cares if it is prolonged? Just was a really weird decision in the moment that looked even worse with the subsequent Hurts decision. You'd think Philly would want to give him as many reps as possible. He is a promising player but he's still pretty raw as a passer and he'll be facing this nasty DL for a long time.
Philadelphia Cream Cheese is from New York. Adding insult to injury for the Empire State!
