2020 Pats: Bengals Coach Implies Patriots Taping Play Signals
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Statement says they filmed the field "and the sideline."
Sure, it's likely useless stuff. But, if I were the Bengals, and didn't know what was happening, I'd be pissed as well
Maybe like tell the firm you’re contracting what the applicable rules are? Even if it was innocent, it’s so damn dumb. They know they’re always on double secret probation.
Why is it a need to get into the press
Box to film sidelines in the year 2019?
You guys are crazy if you trust the NFL to look at this in anything but the most skeptical light imagjnable.
I don't know. Unless the Bengals were doing the hand signals behind their backs, I'm not sure what cameras stationed behind them would pick up.
It really depends what they filmed, if there were some wide shots of just the sideline then it probably goes away. If there was film of some sort of signals or if they were focusing on something in particular then the hammer will be swift and harsh.
And it would be correct.
Are people allowed to just bring cameras and equipment into NFL stadiums? No matter where they filmed, I’d assume they’d need a pass from the team.
If you want to spy on the other team why tf would you do it from the press box stationed behind that team while wearing Patriots gear?
Wouldn't you buy a cheap ticket and film from crowd wearing a fucking North Face hoodie after buying $20 tix on StubHub.
Assuming now Russini got the full story, the video guy asking for the film to be deleted is a bad look.
Hasn’t the league had the video for like 6 hours now? I mean it seems pretty cut and dried - either the video shows signal stealing or it doesn’t.
Shouldn't there be all sorts of other things at play here? Like using NFL and Bengals trademarks and potentially capturing fans that haven’t given consent? Maybe all that is not the job of the production team on site but gets sorted out in post filming. Still, filming in an NFL stadium seems to implicate an awful lot of things well beyond the rules pertaining to filming of opponents.
Which is why I keep going back to the part where they didn't tell the League or the Bengals they'd have a crew there. It doesn't look suspicious if everyone knows why the crew is there
I’m not saying the rules are sensible but obvious cameras are different and more precise than cell phones.
They could send 100 people to the game to sit in the stands with an iPhone and record whatever they want.
They aren't cheating. It was a video crew from web content crew doing a project on the scouts.
Are you asking me to explain why the Patriots decided to record the sidelines from a press box instead of doing something else? Because I don’t think it’s on me to have to do that.
I pray the filming of the field is just Kitchens picking his nose and eating it. Because he’s totally one of those guys.
There will be something in view that people will focus on. A playsheet, people looking at iPads, the training staff, something.
The logos probably. I think tickets have language about waiving rights to use of your likeness.
I agree. Only way this is more than a minor kerfuffle is if facts emerge that call into question the Pats’ assertion that the film crew had nothing to do with the football operation.
Are you saying documentary film crews that happen to use crowd shots should get consent from the thousands of people that show up in those crowd shots?
All plays are called in on offense and defense via wireless communication. The days of signals are over.
True. But every time someone gets caught doing something stupid, a better option is readily apparent.
What? It’s on none of us, why else are we here but to try to make sense of events literally out of our control/to which we’re passive observers. And read Rev’s posts, of course.
The apparent coordination is a good sign — suggests the interactions with the league are non-adversarial.
Honestly, who cares. They didn’t before, they won’t now. America and the NFL suck.
The statement owns their actions. There’s no attempt to hide the ball here from what we can see. Maybe that matters. Maybe not.
Not that anything matter, but if the Pats were doing this all year can't they just check with all the home teams of the up coming opponents and see if the Pats had someone at every game?
I mean do they think this was only do for the mighty Bengal's?
I mean do they think this was only do for the mighty Bengal's?
Sure. So why didn’t they do that ten years ago. You know, after they and all other NFL teams received that memo from the league explicitly telling them to not do what they ended up doing?
The thing is that everyone needs to believe that Belichick and the Patriots are either insanely stupid or intentionally ignoring the rules of the league for some reason. I don’t think that Belichick and the Patriots are stupid.
Ther teams must do stuff like this all the time. Every team has a marketing team and content people and a web site. There must be best practices for this and rules of the road that should be understood.
It doesn’t matter if they are cheating or not. For all of the great things about how this organization is run this is just a stunning mistake. If you are going to have a part of your organization video taping shit after what happened last time they need to be so far above the fray that nobody could ever call anything into question. The fact that they are so quickly admitting to violating league rules is just amazing. What a stupid mistake.
I’m asking you why if it was nefarious they wouldn’t use some guy not in Pats gear sitting in the stands with a phone. Seems like an obvious question.
There are reports out there that there is some sort of signaling still going on in addition to radio communication. I’m aware plays are no longer signaled in.
I’m just throwing out some possibilities of what could be seen as an issue by the league.
If you’re a billionaire who can helicopter models directly to your house, why get a handjob in a suburban mall? Everyone looks dumb when they’re caught.
Question: the weekly sights and sounds segment on all access, is that Kraft Sports Productions? Pretty sure they film shit every week too.