2020 Pats: Kraft One-Ups Brady’s Departure

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All due credit, but why the hell is this necessary? Does the U.S. government not have planes?
The corrupt cesspool in the White House thinks those are only for dropping bombs. Kudos to the Krafts. Longtime Pats fan, but I haven’t always been a fan of everything Bob and Jonathon do. However, this is an unconditional, great thing they are doing, and will save lives.
 

dhappy42

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All due credit, but why the hell is this necessary? Does the U.S. government not have planes?
US government planes fly the PPE to China.

The United States government sent nearly 17.8 tons of donated medical supplies to China—including masks and respirators—almost three weeks after the first case of the coronavirus was reported in the state of Washington.
Private planes fly it back to Massachusetts.

It's the perfect public-private sector partnership.
 

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Are you under the impression that the government moves faster than private industry?
I complained about this elsewhere (V&N), so I'll let it drop in this thread. Suffice it to say, having to rely on private charity to acquire basic commodities is a disaster.
 

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I complained about this elsewhere (V&N), so I'll let it drop in this thread. Suffice it to say, having to rely on private charity to acquire basic commodities is a disaster.
Sure, if there was nothing else being done. But any additional things that can be done by private industry during disasters/pandemics is awesome and isn't new or unique to the current resident of the White House.
 

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Are you under the impression that the government moves faster than private industry?
Well, when there's no direct financial incentive private industry usually doesn't move at all, so government is faster in some instances. Back when CV news began to emerge, private industry did the usual under those circumstances but government did the same. So here we are - a football team owner flying in supplies at the behest of a state governor - with the feds discriminately parcelling out the supplies they do own. Kudos to the Krafts for stepping up.
 

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“Private industry” is a funny thing to call a billionaire with a plane. This is awesome by the Krafts. But it isn’t the free market at work.
 

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“Private industry” is a funny thing to call a billionaire with a plane. This is awesome by the Krafts. But it isn’t the free market at work.
If you're responding to me, I'd agree and will note that I specifically said a "football team owner" in reference to Kraft. FBOW the free market did what it does under these types of circumstances and left it to government. Otherwise, carry on.
 

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If you're responding to me, I'd agree and will note that I specifically said a "football team owner" in reference to Kraft. FBOW the free market did what it does under these types of circumstances and left it to government. Otherwise, carry on.
Sorry, I was responding to DJ‘s use of “private industry”. I’m in agreement with you.
 

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I’m as cynical as anyone, but Baker choking up at the press conference sort or hit home for me. Maybe this wasn’t a huge stretch financially for the Krafts but it was obviously much needed.
 

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this was an awesome thing that Kraft did. I wonder if there are any pictures or news in Chinese media about the plane landing and getting the masks. I’ll have to ask my Chinese friends about it.
 

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this was an awesome thing that Kraft did. I wonder if there are any pictures or news in Chinese media about the plane landing and getting the masks. I’ll have to ask my Chinese friends about it.
Please report back. I’d love to know who helped Kraft pull it off.
 

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This is back in court again this week.
Prosecutors will tell the Florida Fourth District Court of Appeal during an online hearing Tuesday that a county judge erred when he invalidated the January 2019 search warrant allowing police to install secret cameras at Orchids of Asia spa as part of an alleged sex trafficking investigation.
 

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Hearing was this morning via Zoom but there is no timeline when a ruling will be announced.
Lawyers clashed Tuesday over whether police went too far when they recorded activities at a Palm Beach County massage parlor in a sting that ensnared New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft last year.

Arguing in front of a three-judge panel of the Fourth District Court of Appeal, prosecutors defended the legal process that left police and prosecutors with hours of video footage, some allegedly showing Kraft and two dozen other men paying for and receiving sexual favors at the Orchids of Asia Day Spa in Jupiter in January 2019.
 

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Just saw on the news, Appeals court ruled in Kraft’s favor. Videos can’t be used at trial.

checking twitter for confirmation

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Daniel Kaplan:
the video evidence in the Bob Kraft prostitution sting case will remain off-limits, according to a Fla state appeals court ruling today
 

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Worth reflecting on the reality that literally thousands of people go to jail each day based on evidence like this. It is only because Kraft is a billionaire and can afford the lawyers and private investigators to expose the police misconduct that he got the tapes thrown out. That is a good thing, but not enough progress.

Unfortunately, the NFL isn't subject to 4th Amendment restrictions and evidentiary exclusion rules so they can still do what they want. Why they would penalize an owner absent a criminal conviction (and while this ruling says nothing about the underlying evidence, it also means we will never have a judicial hearing of what happened or didn't happen) is a little unclear to me but honesty, facts, reason, and judgment are things which have never concerned Roger Goodell....
 

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Roethlisberger was suspended without any sort of conviction but for owner personal conduct, the punishment should at worst mirror the Irsay punishment. No way should this affect the on-field product. I say "should" but we are talking about a spineless stooge for 31 rich old men who hate the Pats.
 

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With the Eagles close to a contract extension with Zach Ertz, what does that mean for the future of Dallas Goedert? He's not eligible for an extension until after next year, but are they going to commit big money to two TEs? Something to think about for the future. With the uncertainty of the draft this year, would you trade a lower 1st or 2nd round pick for Goedert? Having Goedert and Asiasi with Keene as a hybrid H-back/TE would make for an exciting TE room.
I can't imagine they would let Goedert go for a late 1 or a 2 this year. But if they would take it, I'd do it in a heartbeat. Goedert is a willing enough blocker, has shown offensive upside and would be a huge addition to the team. I have to imagine there would be a multitude of suitors if he hit the market. I think they could easily pay two TEs market rate if you build an offense around 22 personnel and treat one as a de facto slot WR.
 

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