He was throwing the ball and leading the receivers last night allowing them to pick up YAC. Big improvement from the last few weeks.
Aren't they both on IR?Liked that one play to Izzo but man would LOVE to see Asiasi and Keane start getting involved in the offense. I know it's a huge transition from college but it seems like TE production is still something that could really complement this scheme.
Gah. I've totally lost track I just quick checked the inactives...<face palm>. This election stuff has been all consuming!Aren't they both on IR?
It looked like he hurried that throw, caused bad footwork (again) and couldn't step into it. I'll leave it up to the experts on this forum, however.What do you guys think of that short throw in the end zone to a wide open WR (who was that?) elements, just one of those things? That was a big miss
Yeah one of those replays showed a damn tight angle through traffic, with an LB or S sitting on Cam's eyes. It was a much harder throw than it looked like, and he squeezed it a bit.I couldn't really tell from the available replay angles but, from what i saw, while Myers was open, there was a good amount of traffic in between he and Cam so the throw was a bit tighter than it seemed.
I just watched it again; Meyers didn't stop. He was running until the throw was behind him and then he had to slip down.I blame it on Myers who stopped in the end zone, if he kept running Cam could have led him. Instead he saw the traffic closing in between him and Myers.
Yeah it looked to me that it was a throw that could have been off due to a wet football. Regardless, it was a poor throw.I just watched it again; Meyers didn't stop. He was running until the throw was behind him and then he had to slip down.
Cam gave an interview today, said throwing that particular pass felt like a 'medicine ball' and that he knew as soon as it left his hand it was short.Yeah it looked to me that it was a throw that could have been off due to a wet football. Regardless, it was a poor throw.
Man the 2017 draft picks for the Pats did not pan out. I had high hopes for Rivers but too many injuries. He played in just 15 games and his career high was 24 snaps in a game.View: https://twitter.com/jeffphowe/status/1330180794648813576
“@jeffphowe: The Patriots have activated Sony Michel from injured reserve and released Derek Rivers and Hjalte Froholdt, per source.”
Important to remember that the Pats didn’t pick until the 3rd round. Of course, they sandwiched 2 busts around Chris Godwin.Man the 2017 draft picks for the Pats did not pan out. I had high hopes for Rivers but too many injuries. He played in just 15 games and his career high was 24 snaps in a game.
Right. The 1st round pick for Cooks worked out well. The 2nd round pick for Kony Ealy not so much.Important to remember that the Pats didn’t pick until the 3rd round. Of course, they sandwiched 2 busts around Chris Godwin.
Not that it's great, but they only had 4 picks, 3 mid and 1 late, and Wise has been a decent player for themMan the 2017 draft picks for the Pats did not pan out. I had high hopes for Rivers but too many injuries. He played in just 15 games and his career high was 24 snaps in a game.
That occured to me as well...It just occurred to me: Cam reminds me of late-career Bledsoe. Does enough things right to put up some stats but fails at so many basic things that the team loses again and again.
Cam reminds me of late stage Bledsoe, in the sense that he’ll still make some outstanding throws, but too often will tank plays in a way that is unacceptable for an NFL QB1. Some of those bounced passes today were bewildering.
This.On top of all of that they have completely gone away from using Cam’s athleticism. No RPOs, barely even a designed rollout. He either hands the ball off or it’s a straight drop back pass. If there’s no threat of Cam hurting you by running or scrambling I’m not sure of the point of continuing to play him.
We lost the good coordinator to Miami and kept the crappy one.This.
They have completely abandoned the RPO.
I don't get it.
Sounds about right.We lost the good coordinator to Miami and kept the crappy one.
Maybe it’s just me but Cam looks slow and plodding when he runs. Could be that he has lost a step and RPO is not viable.This.
They have completely abandoned the RPO.
I don't get it.
This is a take. I have no idea why fans shit on the Pats OC for the past 20 years. First Weis, then BOB, now JMD. It’s like everyone thinks they should score every possessionWe lost the good coordinator to Miami and kept the crappy one.
You misspelled Detroit.We lost the good coordinator to Miami and kept the crappy one.
I asked the question earlier in the thread. How the heck do we know if Jarrett is any good or not? We have only seen him in blowouts. I actually thought he looked decent against KC. What proof do you have he sucks?Its like I'm watching the 1999 Patriots with Cam as Drew Bledsoe except we have a better coach in BB than Pete Carroll. This is miserable. Being 8-8 or 7-9 is a waste of time especially when you have no QB of the future. They really need a top 5 pick to get a QB.
I thought he looked pretty good in the Miami game, but maybe you're right.Maybe it’s just me but Cam looks slow and plodding when he runs. Could be that he has lost a step and RPO is not viable.
The way they are trending, 6-10, 5-11 is still on the table.Its like I'm watching the 1999 Patriots with Cam as Drew Bledsoe except we have a better coach in BB than Pete Carroll. This is miserable. Being 8-8 or 7-9 is a waste of time especially when you have no QB of the future. They really need a top 5 pick to get a QB.
This AND - at this point it’s hard to imagine Cam coming back because there’s such a clear sense that he’s not the right kind of QB for this system, which depends so much on awareness, being “on time,” a Real sense of rhythm, etc... So, given that, why the hell not run him into the ground with RPOs or more planned scrambles? We don’t have to worry about putting too much tire on the tread or risking injury to a key piece now and down the road. If you’re going to play him, of course try our best to run our system and do whatever it takes to win (since that’s how BB is wired), but just let him run, don’t worry about getting too reckless with his body.On top of all of that they have completely gone away from using Cam’s athleticism. No RPOs, barely even a designed rollout. He either hands the ball off or it’s a straight drop back pass. If there’s no threat of Cam hurting you by running or scrambling I’m not sure of the point of continuing to play him.
Were any of the league’s current elite QBs top-5 picks? Mahomes, Wilson, Rodgers, Watson, Jackson, Allen ... a couple top-10s in there, but no top 5s. Maybe I’m missing something.Its like I'm watching the 1999 Patriots with Cam as Drew Bledsoe except we have a better coach in BB than Pete Carroll. This is miserable. Being 8-8 or 7-9 is a waste of time especially when you have no QB of the future. They really need a top 5 pick to get a QB.
Mahomes isn't top 5? Wow, what's your top 5?Were any of the league’s current elite QBs top-5 picks? Mahomes, Wilson, Rodgers, Watson, Jackson, Allen ... a couple top-10s in there, but no top 5s. Maybe I’m missing something.
They’re all 1st rounders except Wilson, so you do have to place a bet at some point, but you don’t need to tank and destroy your culture.
First time on SoSH?I don't understand how the post could be interpreted any other way.
I could not get over the play where a DB charged the line so hard that he actually was offsides for a second, reset stood at the line, and still got the sack...how do you not see that and adjust.I’m all done with Cam. He never, ever ever sees pressure coming. Not once.
Agreed ... I just wish I had confidence that those making the draft picks could figure out the TE/WR positions.By the time the 4th quarter rolled around, I was rooting for the loss. It would have been nice to see them try to make thins interesting, but it's clear this team is going nowhere. .
Was that the play that was some sort of gadget play and I think Harry blew right past the defender and let him walk in and make the sack?I could not get over the play where a DB charged the line so hard that he actually was offsides for a second, reset stood at the line, and still got the sack...how do you not see that and adjust.
Agreed, that was ridiculous. And the worst part was that wasn't even the first time it's happened this season, I feel like I've seen it a handful of times.I could not get over the play where a DB charged the line so hard that he actually was offsides for a second, reset stood at the line, and still got the sack...how do you not see that and adjust.