2020 WC Weekend Game Thread

JohnnyTheBone

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NFL just makes it up as they go. What a clown show of a league.
Rules are arbitrary in the NFL now. Clock hits zero for delay of game? Nah, just let it ride! Catch is defined by one set of criteria all season, but changed for the Super Bowl? So long as it hurts New England, it's all good! Take the knee to signal a touchback? Fuck it, we want to hold the audience and that's an antiquated rule, anyway!
 

Hendu for Kutch

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Yes but also if you are the official, the player catches the ball in a situation where he usually gives himself up, he motions to you that he's about to throw you the ball, he makes an illegal forward pass at you and no one else, and you fucking sidestep the ball and call the other team a TD, maybe you need to reevaluate your professional outlook as an NFL ref
So when that Minnesota player in the 70's took a turnover the wrong way, should they have called his forward progress stopped because obviously he didn't mean to run to the wrong end zone?

There are numerous times in NFL history where a player puts a ball on the ground thinking the play is over when it's actually not. You can't call a play by "obviously this is what he meant". What did he actually do and how do the rules define that action?
 

InstaFace

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Is there any other scenario where you could just throw the ball away and it's considered giving yourself up? I get "common sense" understanding of what he's doing, but aren't there actual rules to follow? That was just a boneheaded play by the returner. He doesn't have to catch it, so get away from it if going down to a knee is too much to consider.
Seriously. Should "common sense have prevailed" when DeSean Jackson threw the ball away before actually crossing the goal line for a TD? No, the fucking rule says you have to cross with it in your possession.

You can let it fly by you out of the end zone. You can catch it, survey your options, and then take a knee. You can catch it and then make no movement at all, and will be ruled down by not making any move to advance the ball. Bit you can't start moving forward, throw the ball casually away, and then claim it's down. This isn't Nam, there are rules.
 

DennyDoyle'sBoil

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Is there any other scenario where you could just throw the ball away and it's considered giving yourself up? I get "common sense" understanding of what he's doing, but aren't there actual rules to follow? That was just a boneheaded play by the returner. He doesn't have to catch it, so get away from it if going down to a knee is too much to consider.
My read of the rule is that giving yourself up requires falling to the ground or taking a knee and making no effort to advance.

The problem is that it’s a disaster when we ask refs to guess what a majority of the viewers think is common sense. Corrente knows the fucking rule. My lip reading is not great but I thought he was saying “I’ve been calling it that way for __ years.“ The league just left a ref hanging there, though it sounds like Parry was saying there is an understanding that I guess is not in the rule book.
 

GoDa

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Common sense shouldn't prevail. That should not be a touchback.
I'm with you. Know the rules. On the other hand, shouldn't it have just been an illegal forward pass and a safety, if they had stuck with the ruling?
 

johnmd20

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No show by the Texans might put O’Brien on some kind of hot seat if there were any good coach candidates out there.
There aren't. He just needs to not blow it in the first quarter like he did today. The stupid challenge and punting on the THIRTY SEVEN set the tone.
 

Marciano490

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Wait, why is TJ at the game. Shouldn’t be be getting ready for the Steelers playoff game?